Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 18:08:33 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. I'd forgotten about lshw - thanks for the reminder. At the risk of a thread hijack, what should I do about this, which is shown for both CPU's: *-cache:2 DISABLED Does that mean the ha

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
well said ... Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first ge

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: > from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do > as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast > I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first > generation dual-core cpu's. HT i

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
from what you pasted, you have a 32bit cpu. But you have a flag I do as well, and that is 'ht'. Hyper-Threading is a whole different beast I know very little about, it's more of an Intel thing for there first generation dual-core cpu's. Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brenn

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: > Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean > 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) > CPU. > > model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ <-- Here > will be your first indi

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:23:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible > > the same for AMD? > > Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. Aaaahhh. That has to be the most usef

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, cypherstrong wrote: > Of course :) > > the test for amd64 could be fast with a livecd That might suit someone who's sitting with a new and unknown box on the desk in front of them. I usually have to discover this for machines that are in some unknown location and to

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Stratos Psomadakis wrote: > O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: > > another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel > > chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version > > > > if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) > > no need for the ia64... > i

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:23:55 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Could that same kind soul please repost the info? And if possible the > same for AMD? Run lshw and look at the width value for the CPU. -- Neil Bothwick If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? signature.asc Desc

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: | O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: |> another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips |> if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version |> |> if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) |> | no ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/5/08, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am a bit confused now. I always thought my CPU was 32bit. Here are > the relevant two lines from my /proc/cpuinfo: > So the model name does not indicate anything 64bit while the flags > contain lm, nx and lahf_lm. Like I said, take the family

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Wednesday 05 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote: > Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean > 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one > (1) CPU. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 3/5/08, Andrew MacKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They do identify themselves, but they may not indicate 64 vs. 32 bit. > Something one can always do is "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and then check the family and model at http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags . If it indicates 64-bit profile and Cflag

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
+++ Chris Brennan [gentoo-user] [Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 11:36:47AM -0500]: > Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean > 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread cypherstrong
Of course :) the test for amd64 could be fast with a livecd ... or with cpuinfo and good knowledge of flags Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:45:16 Stratos Psomadakis, vous avez écrit : > O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: > > another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips > > if it d

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H cypherstrong έγραψε: another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) no need for the ia64... it's for intel's itanium cpus... ia64 is not compatible with x86... if

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Chris Brennan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is the output of my cpuinfo, I'll point out where it will mean 64bit. For the sake of this demonstration, I have only pasted one (1) CPU. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread cypherstrong
another way to test is to run a livecd in amd64 mode on new intel chips if it doesn't work, try the ia64 version if it doesn't work ... your intel is a 32 bits version :) Le Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:47:10 kashani, vous avez écrit : > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Sometime in the la

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread kashani
Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could th

Re: [gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H Alan McKinnon έγραψε: Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Cou

[gentoo-user] Detecting 64 bit Intel chips

2008-03-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, Sometime in the last month someone posted (in a thread that went wildly OT) a definite way to determine if an Intel cpu is 32 or 64 bit. Unfortunately I can't find the post anymore. It involved checking the cpu-family, model and flags fields in cpuinfo. Could that same kind soul please