Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:01:33 +, Mick wrote:
>
> > Nevertheless, I support moving away from a RHL sponsored
> > monolithic binary and hopefully if not today it will happen eventually.
>
> systemd isn't monolithic so I can only assume you are referring to the
> Linux ker
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:33:23 +, Mick wrote:
> > Red Hat open source everything, so while they can pay for the
> > development of the code, they can never own it. Yes, their money
> > gives them control of what is and is not developed by those they are
> > paying, but it gives them neither excl
Am 30.11.2014 um 17:39 schrieb Daniel Frey:
> systemd most certainly is monolithic as well as modular. You can't run
journald without systemd and you most certainly can't replace journald
with a third party binary.
IMHO this type of discussion leads to nowhere. Of course you can view it
like
On 11/30/2014 05:13 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> systemd isn't monolithic so I can only assume you are referring to the
> Linux kernel here :)
systemd most certainly is monolithic as well as modular. You can't run
journald without systemd and you most certainly can't replace journald
with a third pa
On Sunday 30 Nov 2014 13:13:02 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:01:33 +, Mick wrote:
> > Nevertheless, I support moving away from a RHL sponsored
> > monolithic binary and hopefully if not today it will happen eventually.
>
> systemd isn't monolithic so I can only assume you are r
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:01:33 +, Mick wrote:
> Nevertheless, I support moving away from a RHL sponsored
> monolithic binary and hopefully if not today it will happen eventually.
systemd isn't monolithic so I can only assume you are referring to the
Linux kernel here :)
Red Hat open source ev
On Sunday 30 Nov 2014 12:29:07 Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Am 30.11.2014 um 12:44 schrieb Philip Webb:
> > A rather shrewd analysis ; the name 'Devuan' adds to my suspicions.
>
> Well, the people behind it claim to be mostly from Italy and this should
> be pronounced like "DevOne."
>
> People so far wh
Am 30.11.2014 um 12:44 schrieb Philip Webb:
A rather shrewd analysis ; the name 'Devuan' adds to my suspicions.
Well, the people behind it claim to be mostly from Italy and this should
be pronounced like "DevOne."
People so far who have published their names do include:
- Franco Lanza (who
On 30/11/14 12:35, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:32:18 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>>> I am already really annoyed that by default
>>> systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based
>>> systems.
>>
>
141130 Marc Stürmer wrote:
> The point though is that the way this fork was being announced is quite
> simple the worst way to do it. The announcement was not signed by any
> name and just made by someone named "Majordomo Debianfork." Not that's
> why I do call a bad way to start such a project
Am , schrieb Bill Kenworthy:
I read "Veteran Unix Admins collective" as a category that old style
admin types fall into - the background being that systemd is
essentially
the old guard, do things based on experience and good practice vs the
new guard whose use case is throw away vm's that are
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:32:08 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>
> > What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to
> > assist?
>
> Since Eudev has always been opensource under the GPLv2, like udev too,
> there's no need to /offer/
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:32:18 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> > I am already really annoyed that by default
> > systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based
> > systems.
>
> You're getting worked up about text files and
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> I am already really annoyed that by default
> systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based
> systems.
You're getting worked up about text files and filenames. I suppose
you'll be really upset that bash completion
On 30/11/14 07:30, Marc Stuermer wrote:
> Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan:
>
>> What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to
>> assist?
>
> After studying their home pages so far I came to the conclusion, that I
> cannot take "Devuan" serious. It still feel
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Marc Stuermer wrote:
> That's why I am skeptical about all of this created buzz around it and
> seriously doubt if they are going to be able to deliver.
>
Systemd = buzz these days. There was a slashdot post about some
kernel bug and it seemed like 1/3rd of the p
Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan:
> What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to
> assist?
After studying their home pages so far I came to the conclusion, that I
cannot take "Devuan" serious. It still feels more like a prank to me
than a serious thing.
Firs
Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan:
What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to
assist?
Since Eudev has always been opensource under the GPLv2, like udev too,
there's no need to /offer/ it.
If they choose to use it, they can use it, no offer/questions ne
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On 29/11/14 13:11, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork
> Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called
> 'systemd':
>
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:11:20 +, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian,
> because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd':
>
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html
>
> What do you thin
So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian,
because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd':
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html
What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to
assist?
Rgds
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