Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-09 Thread Dale
Daniel da Veiga wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 08:45, Dale wrote: > >> daid kahl wrote: >> >> Sounds like he may as well use that genkernel thingy that Gentoo has. >> It never has worked for me but he may have better luck. It may even >> work on the first try. LOL >> > > I've been

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-09 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 08:45, Dale wrote: > daid kahl wrote: > I tried closely comparing the current working kernel with newly built > one. I mean side by side with `make menuconfig' running in both sources. > I cannot tell what it is I'm overlooking. > Please do not do this.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-08 Thread Dale
daid kahl wrote: I tried closely comparing the current working kernel with newly built one. I mean side by side with `make menuconfig' running in both sources. I cannot tell what it is I'm overlooking. >>> Please do not do this. Instead emerge kccmp to compare kernel >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-08 Thread daid kahl
>>> I tried closely comparing the current working kernel with newly built >>> one. I mean side by side with `make menuconfig' running in both sources. >>> I cannot tell what it is I'm overlooking. >> >> Please do not do this.  Instead emerge kccmp to compare kernel >> configurations!  It is much ea

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-07 Thread Harry Putnam
daid kahl writes: > 2009/11/4 Harry Putnam : >> I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always >> been a problem for me.  I don't remember ever not having a problem, in >> 10+ yrs.. >> >> Many people here seem to find it completely easy... not me. >> >> I tried closely comp

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread John H. Moe
Harry Putnam wrote: > "John H. Moe" writes: > > >> I stopped using that option in my systems, as there is now a AHCI SATA >> option to use instead. It appears CONFIG_ATA_SFF (which CONFIG_ATA_PIIX >> requires) is deprecated. From the help on it: >> > > Do you notice some kind of difference

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread pk
Harry Putnam wrote: > I think you can say make `oldconfig' and the `old config' is supposed to > be incorporated so no I didn't The 'oldconfig' option needs your old .config for input (that where "old" comes from :-) I usually manually go through the 'make menuconfig' as well after doing this to

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
"Dirk Heinrichs" writes: > If it still won't work, you can also post your kernel config and the output > of > lspci -vv here and somebody will find out what's wrong/missing. Good input thanks. I did get it working. It was an IDE selection I missed. >From the lspci -vv you mentioned (aggrav

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 04 November 2009 05:10:52 schrieb Harry Putnam: > I think you can say make `oldconfig' and the `old config' is supposed to > be incorporated so no I didn't No, that's only half of the truth. You need to copy .config from your old kernel first. I'd compile the config into the kernel,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch 04 November 2009 02:46:54 schrieb Harry Putnam: > But am I missing some critical driver? Harddisk (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y), maybe? That's one reason for "unknown block device". Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-11-04, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Just checking - but you didn't mention: did you copy the >> .config to the new kernel src directory? If not, that would >> certainly explain the disparity in configuration settings >> you're seeing. > > I think you can say make `oldconfig' and the `old con

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Mike Edenfield writes: > The 'make' man page wouldn't know anything about the kernel's > makefile. You want the README file that's included in the top of the > kernel source folder. That file says, among other things: > > "make oldconfig" Default all questions based on the contents of >

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread walt
On 11/04/2009 06:16 AM, james wrote: > Graham Murray gmurray.org.uk> writes: > > You have to copy the .config from the running (old) >> kernel to the new kernel directory before running make oldconfig. If you >> start with the default config, then you have to run make menuconfig (or >> config or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/3/2009 11:10 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: hamilton writes: Just checking - but you didn't mention: did you copy the .config to the new kernel src directory? If not, that would certainly explain the disparity in configuration settings you're seeing. I think you can say make `oldconfig' an

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread Harry Putnam
"John H. Moe" writes: > I stopped using that option in my systems, as there is now a AHCI SATA > option to use instead. It appears CONFIG_ATA_SFF (which CONFIG_ATA_PIIX > requires) is deprecated. From the help on it: Do you notice some kind of difference from switching?

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-04 Thread james
Graham Murray gmurray.org.uk> writes: You have to copy the .config from the running (old) > kernel to the new kernel directory before running make oldconfig. If you > start with the default config, then you have to run make menuconfig (or > config or xconfig) to customise it every time. Hm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 04 November 2009 03:46:54 Harry Putnam wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > > your drivers for the ide disks have to be built INTO THE KERNEL! NOT > > MODULES. > > Is that really a hard rule? I've done it both ways successfully in the > past. > If you do not use an initrd|initra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Graham Murray
Harry Putnam writes: > I think you can say make `oldconfig' and the `old config' is supposed to > be incorporated so no I didn't > > If I had put .confg into the new sources, then plain make menuconfig > is what I would have used. That is the wrong way round! make oldconfig uses the .config in t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: > hamilton writes: > > >> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:02:18 -0800, walt wrote: >> >>> On 11/03/2009 02:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always been a problem for me. I don't remember ever not hav

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
hamilton writes: > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:02:18 -0800, walt wrote: >> On 11/03/2009 02:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always >>> been a problem for me. I don't remember ever not having a problem, in >>> 10+ yrs.. >>> >>> Many peopl

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread hamilton
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:02:18 -0800, walt wrote: > On 11/03/2009 02:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always >> been a problem for me. I don't remember ever not having a problem, in >> 10+ yrs.. >> >> Many people here seem to find it com

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
walt writes: > There's no reason to use menuconfig after running oldconfig, If your > old kernel was using all of the hardware, then the new kernel should, > too, just with oldconfig. I don't know about that. I found a whole lot of stuff different when I ran menuconfig and checked the old and

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread walt
On 11/03/2009 02:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'll say right from the start, that building a new kernel, has always > been a problem for me. I don't remember ever not having a problem, in > 10+ yrs.. > > Many people here seem to find it completely easy... not me. > > So I'm back in the soup. > [

[gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.

2009-11-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: > your drivers for the ide disks have to be built INTO THE KERNEL! NOT MODULES. Is that really a hard rule? I've done it both ways successfully in the past. And in fact, I didn't record my first builds on this kernel but I'm pretty sure my first build did have all P