Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:30:19 +0200, gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: > > Real men manage their own /etc/fstab. ;-) > +1 Hal is about a lot more than mounting memory sticks. > (I just noticed that hal creates /media but didn't added it to my fstab, > maybe for the 0.5.12 ? :)) Hal doesn't create the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread gibboris
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:58:18PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Real men manage their own /etc/fstab. ;-) +1 (I just noticed that hal creates /media but didn't added it to my fstab, maybe for the 0.5.12 ? :)) > "HAL was responsible for opening almost 2000 files. It will read various XML > fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:58:18 -0400 schrieb "Michael P. Soulier" : > On 13/04/09 Mike Edenfield said: > [...] > > Also, just for the record, hal isn't by any stretch of the imagination a > > "new" daemon. Its been a USE option for Gentoo's gnome-vfs package since > > Gnome 2.8, in 2004. > > Y

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 13/04/09 Mike Edenfield said: > Having said that, hal is exactly the kind of thing I would expect Gentoo > users to flock to: its powerful, flexible, extensible, configurable, and > it's the new cutting-edge stuff from the upstream vendors. Before it went > offline, the Gentoo wiki was easi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread gibboris
Hello, about the *mandatory* it was a bad expression, I should have said : 'make two new daemons mandatory IF you want to follow the modern-move' :) Of course the 'hal' useflag is such a gentoo nice thing ! I did the xorg+hal switch, but I forgot that hald make use of dbus (I would dreamed about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: 1) I don't want hal, one more daemon running only to... spot /dev/input/*, from what I understand xf86-input-* does this pretty well. I won't unplug my mouse and so want to keep my xorg simple conf. Hal does a lot more than just monitor /dev/input for you. It's a fra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Dale
gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm trying to follow this philosophy which appears more difficult than I > primary though. > 1) I don't want hal, one more daemon running only to... spot /dev/input/*, > from what I understand xf86-input-* does this pretty well. I won't > unplug my mouse and so want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 01:08:23 gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm trying to follow this philosophy which appears more difficult than I > primary though. > 1) I don't want hal, one more daemon running only to... spot /dev/input/*, > from what I understand xf86-input-* does this pretty well. I won't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:08:23 +0200, gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: > I believed gentoo users would be more sceptic when it comes to make a > new daemon mandatory ;) How can hal be mandatory when it is controlled by a USE flag? :) -- Neil Bothwick Virtue is it's own punishment. signature.asc Desc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread gibboris
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 03:50:09PM -0400, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: > Dale wrote: > After reading the upgrade guide, it seemed clear to me that my first > attempt would be without hal, and without my old xorg.conf. > > It initially crashed because of some erroneous opengl softlinks > (bugzilla already no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/13/2009 3:50 PM, 7v5w7go9ub0o wrote: I have not yet added hal; seems like unnecessary complexity at this point - I don't know how it will make life better. The major benefit of hal is for people who don't actually *have* an "old" xorg.conf. In most cases, the X server can do a better jo

[gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o
Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Dale wrote: Justin wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: Well, I did the upgrade at last, with -hal and my proven xorg-config, and the result is unusable. I use kde-3.5.9 and the mouse doesn't work right - right-click has no ef

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread CJoeB
Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 4/13/2009 12:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> Paul Hartman wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Mark Knecht >>> wrote: There's a lot of us voting 1 today I think. How do things like this go stable when they aren't stable, tested and >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/13/2009 12:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: There's a lot of us voting 1 today I think. How do things like this go stable when they aren't stable, tested and not causing problems. (rhetorical...) I must

[gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: There's a lot of us voting 1 today I think. How do things like this go stable when they aren't stable, tested and not causing problems. (rhetorical...) I must be lucky because I've been using it since it hit