Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.

2012-12-17 Thread felix
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:10:30PM +, Robert Walker wrote: > I amused to read this thread. I've an old dual-Opteron box that I'm > still using. It was my first "watercooling" experiment. Apart from the > complete lack of power management support (the system sucks down a > continuous 300+Wat

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.

2012-12-17 Thread Robert Walker
On 14/12/12 22:03, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: A friend suggested a big lightning storm a month ago might have temporarily scrambled something. It tripped breakers in the house and blew out a battery in the standby generator shed, but I've rebooted twice since that storm without any problems. I g

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.

2012-12-14 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:53PM -0600, Dale wrote: > I did some math, my new rig is almost 8 times faster/powerful than my > old rig but pulls much less than half the power even when fully loaded. > I might add, I think the old rig was idle when I measured that. My next box will be a commodi

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.

2012-12-14 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, wrote: >> I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it >> did. >> >> It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the >> hint, grab a clue, and start researching a replacement. > I think

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.

2012-12-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, wrote: > I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it > did. > > It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the hint, > grab a clue, and start researching a replacement. I think you'll find the power cons

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus -- REBOOT OK THIS A.M.

2012-12-14 Thread felix
I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it did. It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the hint, grab a clue, and start researching a replacement. -- Felix Finch, a la mode

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:43:01PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt? > > Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or > the rescue DVD would

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM, wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > >> Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt? > > Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or > the rescue DVD would take over. > >> Yes, your so

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt? Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or the rescue DVD would take over. > Yes, your southbridge chipset could just happened to have failed

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2012, 12:16:46 schrieb Bruce Hill: > Whatever you think of logic, it is entirely illogical that a kernel could > kill your BIOS, or any hardware ... at least, just booting into it. emm, not, it isn't. -- #163933

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:24:10PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > That's what I've been using. > > But the hardware failure is illogical too; why would USB and SATA fail at the > same time? Or why would southbridge fail when it had been running perfectly > fine? > > I don't really think

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:16:46PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > > > I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile > > to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks > > an

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > > I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile > to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks and > keyboard? I will find out. My best guess right now is that booting

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 06:22:10PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > how about a more stable kernel - like 3.4.X? It was running 3.6.8 fine, and ~ kernels for ages before that. The paranoid in me thinks it was 3.7.0, but I really don't know. > and yes, a confused bios can do a lot of strange

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2012, 11:18:21 schrieb fe...@crowfix.com: > Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system > last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I > may have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB drive backups, > but

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.12.2012 17:18, schrieb fe...@crowfix.com: > Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 > system last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up > yet, but I may have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB > drive backups, but the only other com

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:28:41AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: > (Admittedly quick and dirty response) Much appreciated. Gives me some hope ... > Pull out an old PS2 keyboard. Sometimes, that's the easiest way to get > things going. I thought of that -- don't have any. They all got recycled a fe

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread Michael Mol
(Admittedly quick and dirty response) On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18 AM, wrote: > Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system > last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I may > have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB dri

[gentoo-user] ~amd64 compatibility with modern cpus

2012-12-14 Thread felix
Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I may have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB drive backups, but the only other computer I have right now is an old Mac laptop which can