Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Grant
> > > > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud > > > > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud > > > > server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated > > > > server at the same price point far outperforms it. > > > > > > > > - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Kevin Brandstatter
Cloud services are often far more expensive, I work with someone who did a fair amount of research of the various costs of clouds. They are good for dynamic scaling of resources but if your concentrating on one server or another its likely your server load isn't highly intensive and a single dedica

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.12.2012 11:00, schrieb Grant: >> > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud >> > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server >> > concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the >> > same price point far outperforms it.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:24:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability > > compared to dedicated? > > Potentially? Yes. > > In reality? No. > > It's not the virtualization that breaks, it's all the surrounding > infrastructur

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:39:03 -0600 > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > My data is allergic to "the cloud" ... too much pixey dust. > > If I get up from my desk, walk down the corridor and turn right, I find > myself right in the middle of

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:00:54 -0800 Grant wrote: > > > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud > > > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud > > > server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated > > > server at the same price point f

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability > compared to dedicated? Perhaps at your price point through redundancy which could be applied to dedicated all be it at higher cost and so potentially still more reliable and certainly more secure and also tested in almost an

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:39:03 -0600 Bruce Hill wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:49:23PM -0800, Grant wrote: > > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud > > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud > > server concept is amazing but from what I'm re

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:49:23PM -0800, Grant wrote: > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud server > from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server concept is > amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the same price > point far outperfo

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Grant
> > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud > > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server > > concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the > > same price point far outperforms it. > > > > - Grant > > Last time I did the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.12.2012 08:49, schrieb Grant: > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server > concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the > same price point far outperforms it. > > - Gran

[gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?

2012-12-13 Thread Grant
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the same price point far outperforms it. - Grant