Re: [gentoo-user] A new init system; Simple, powerful, fast, and user-friendly. 66 it is. Anyone interested to help?

2025-05-06 Thread Pramod V U
On Tuesday, May 6th, 2025 at 8:17 PM, Michael wrote: > Just to say thank you for working on this and for updating us on progress. Many more frontends and packages are being added at a rapid pace, to the repo. Kindly voice your opinion and requirement on what is priority and what is not. To prep

[gentoo-user] A new init system; Simple, powerful, fast, and user-friendly. 66 it is. Anyone interested to help?

2025-05-05 Thread Pramod V U
s are currently in a separate overlay... The repository: https://github.com/pramodvu1502/66-svmgr-gentoo-overlay The Gentoo Wiki Page (incomplete as of now): https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/66-init Kind regards, Pramod V U

Re: [gentoo-user] Fragile python update is wedged.

2025-05-02 Thread Pramod V U
You need a rust compiler to compile rust's own rust compiler. You either need dev-lang/rust-bin, a package with binaries... Either just use it or compile the main rust package for use. If that's a problem. dev-lang/mrustc is another compiler for rust, written in C/C++. It has been written speci

[gentoo-user] Re-implementing systemd conveniences without systemd

2025-04-19 Thread Pramod V U
systemd is a convenient service manager (and much more!!). It provides too many things, which work well... for standard windows-like use cases. Seeing my post title, a question you might get is "Why not just use systemd? It just works better!..." (Please read below, then this; It is just a TL;D

Re: [gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-05 Thread Pramod V U
> I am not sure I understand the proposal either, tbh. Read below to understand > Although in general, the job of an ebuild tends to be to ensure that > mandatory requirements are satisfied somehow, so if 66 needs a launcher > and provides its own (?) then adding a dependency on an external one

Re: [gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-04 Thread Pramod V U
> The bot(s) also link to > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers/User_Guide > > If you are not a Gentoo Developer, you need a Gentoo Developer to merge > changes for you. This is called proxying -- you author the change and > someone else helps you by merging it. > > The Pr

Re: [gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-02 Thread Pramod V U
> You are right, i was wrong - sorry. i was confused by what you had > written previously, as in your previous messages, you didn't > simply write: > > By setting USE=-launcher for dbus-broker, systemd doesn't get > pulled in. Exactly; However, some evaluation needed on how to handle this for u

Re: [gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-02 Thread Pramod V U
> Firstly, as some context, i'm the author of a guide "D-Bus: The > essentials": > > https://github.com/flexibeast/guides/blob/master/dbus.md > > and a guide "D-Bus and X sessions": > > https://github.com/flexibeast/guides/blob/master/dbus-and-x-sessions.md > > as well as having made various ed

Re: [gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-02 Thread Pramod V U
> > > dbus-broker depends on systemd, and you probably don't want 66 > > > to > > > pull in systemd. :-) > > > > Only with the USE=launcher > > `66-dbus-launch` in `sys-apps/66-tools` provides an alternative > > "launcher" which doesn't depend on systemd. It instead uses 66. > > > This page

Re: [gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-01 Thread Pramod V U
> dbus-broker depends on systemd, and you probably don't want 66 to > pull in systemd. :-) Only with the USE=launcher `66-dbus-launch` in `sys-apps/66-tools` provides an alternative "launcher" which doesn't depend on systemd. It instead uses 66. > i don't understand why you're talking about elo

[gentoo-user] 66; A better alternative to systemd and openrc

2025-04-01 Thread Pramod V U
66 is an excellent service management suite which uses s6 under the hood, provides a simple declarative INI format for services, manages dependency without races, handles logging with s6-log such that logs from different services stay separate, and makes sure that no line of logs is lost in the

Re: [gentoo-user] 66, an alternative to openrc/systemd: Is it needed?

2025-03-21 Thread Pramod V U
> * All of 66's dependencies will need to be packaged as well, if > they're not already available. The only dependencies of 66 are a libc [musl or glibc whatever], s6 and execline. libc, obviously, is available. s6 and execline are also supported in gentoo, right in openrc... The included scrip

Re: [gentoo-user] 66, an alternative to openrc/systemd: Is it needed?

2025-03-20 Thread Pramod V U
Soon, I will be back with an ebuild. Will also PR on github for inclusion into repo... But 2-4 days delay due to unforseen circumstances; sorry. Regards, Pramod

[gentoo-user] 66, an alternative to openrc/systemd: Is it needed?

2025-03-17 Thread Pramod V U
I'd like to disclaim beforehand that THIS ISN'T A PRO-SYSTEMD/ANTI-SYSTEMD PROJECT; IT'S JUST ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE obarun is an arch-based distro, and it has an init system named 66. This init system is also available on Void linux. For questionable reasons it isn't on Artix and Devuan. It is jus