Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs with TRIM issues

2015-06-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 03:16:16PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Also, I don't know which stable kernels have the blacklist. It > doesn't look like this list is in 3.18.14 which is the most recent > longterm in Gentoo (3.18.15 is out but not yet in gentoo-sources). I > went ahead and disabled f

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs with TRIM issues

2015-06-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:24:55PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > /* devices that don't properly handle queued TRIM commands */ > Micron_M500* > Crucial_CT*M500* > Micron_M5[15]0* > Crucial_CT*M550* > Crucial_CT*MX100* > Samsung SSD 8* > > from drivers/ata/libata-core.c Then read further:

Re: [gentoo-user] new scanner : any advice ?

2015-06-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 04:51:39PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I have an HP inkjet which insists on starting itself up every time the power > is restored, despite the presence of a perfectly good on/off button. When I > complained, they said they thought it was more helpful that way. > > N

Re: [gentoo-user] new scanner : any advice ?

2015-06-21 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 07:02:39AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > My trusty 12-year-old scanner is starting to show signs of age : > > Epson Perfection 1260 > 1200 x 2400 dpi ; 48-bit color > Speed : 1200 dpi hi-speed : Monochrome + Color 32 ms/line > Optical Resolution : 1200 dpi > Max Docum

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?

2015-06-08 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 04:09:30AM +, James wrote: > Bruce Hill happypenguincomputers.com> writes: > > > > > "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not > > sure about the former." > > > Your probably

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?

2015-06-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 05:38:57PM +, James wrote: > > SS7 (The north American "switching standard") where the tariffs are still > enforced is where the phone "meta-data" comes from regardless of how it is > originated. Now, All data from an ISP, Telco > web company, social media or anything e

Re: [gentoo-user] Question for users of the Firefox browser

2015-05-25 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 09:01:18AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:39:29AM +0200, Paul Klos wrote: > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > You might be interested in these settings (from about:config): > > > > browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAl

Re: [gentoo-user] Tips for fresh install with GRUB2+RAID1+LVM2

2015-05-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:20:29PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > No no no! LiLo, on a six year old machine actually works well. It does > exactly what it says on the packet, i.e. it boots up the machine, and > nothing more. I use LiLo, mainly to avoid the complexities of Grub. > -- > Alan M

Re: [gentoo-user] Question for users of the Firefox browser

2015-05-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:39:29AM +0200, Paul Klos wrote: > Op zondag 17 mei 2015 13:52:21 schreef Andrew Lowe: > > Hi all, > > I've been using Firefox for ages and something struck me recently as a > > bit odd. In the Windows version, if I click up into the address or > > search boxes, the ex

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-04-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > On my workstation the day this option came out, "*/* abi_x86_32" in > > package.use went reasonably well. x11-libs/cairo-1.12.18-r1 failed, but > > maybe > > that problem is the 32-bit mesa. Going to rebuild it and try. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib

2015-03-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:20:23AM +0100, Mick wrote: > Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now > with USE="abi_x86_32" emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now > easier to move from a no-multilib to a multilib environment, or will it still > re

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstruct package.use

2015-03-15 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
> On March 14, 2015 at 6:12 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > It took 10 years but I've finally done something monumentally stupid in > Gentoo: > > I delete package.use and have no backup > > Is there any easy way to recover what was in it? I'm busy doing it the > long way round - repeatedly run

Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?

2014-12-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 06:43:26PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 08:11:15 AM Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > > > > Can you offer any technical suggestions as for what to check? > > Do you leave the messages on the mailserver? > In that case, ensure

Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?

2014-12-30 Thread Bruce Hill, Jr.
> On December 27, 2014 at 10:19 AM Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Please stop insults and offensive language. I just sent replies to > the list, this is verifiable by mail headers. My apologies to you sir. > If you have mail problems, check your MTA or whatever you are > using to receive e-mail fr

Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?

2014-12-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 06:20:05PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:22:26 +0100 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Anyone here running ceph / http://ceph.com/ on gentoo? > > > > As server(s) or client or ... ? > > > > I am learning about this right now and currently o

Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?

2014-12-25 Thread Bruce Hill
To whoever controls this list... I just arrived home to find my mailbox spammed with hundreds of messages from this luser Andrew Savchenko What is the explanation for this please?

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:29:20PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: > > On 22/03/14 14:48, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale wrote: > >>> Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! > > If someone says something

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about History file

2014-01-08 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 07:10:10AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi all, > > I routinely am logged into a server with multiple consoles (I log in > with one (the same) regular user, then su - to root). > > This morning I tried to grep roots .bash_history for a command I ran > some time ago, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] USB permission/owner - change not allowed as root

2013-12-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 09:06:38AM -0700, Joseph wrote: > > Thank you for the hints, here is the output of: tail -f /var/log/messages > My line if fstab is: > /dev/sdb1 /media/stickautonoauto,rw,user > and this USB below file are mounted as root:root (not joseph:users)

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 24.1.1 - and PFD viewer UGLY fonts

2013-12-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 07:38:00PM -0700, Joseph wrote: > I just upgraded to Firefox-24.1.1 and when an online pdf file is generated > some ugly view pops up that is using "monospace fonts" impossible to read and > it looks > ugly on a print out. > Is there a solution to it? How about giving a

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS & static ports - driving me crazy...

2013-12-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:04:29PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > It just so happens that I'm setting up NFS atm using this guide: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NFSv4 > > This info unfortunately misses the port number: 2049 What

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS & static ports - driving me crazy...

2013-12-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 09:27:19PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: > > > Ok, my google-fu has failed me... > > > > I've found a few sites that describe how to set static ports for NFS > > mounting remote shares (I use iptables for both inbound AND outbound, > > and it is the ou

Re: [gentoo-user] USB permission/owner - change not allowed as root

2013-12-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 07:42:33PM -0700, Joseph wrote: > After recent upgrade when I mount my USB and try as root: > > chown joseph:users /media/stick/Ancient-Electricity_new.ppt > chown: changing ownership of ‘/media/stick/Ancient-Electricity_new.ppt’: > Operation not permitted > > file owner

Re: [gentoo-user] metasploit jumping into "emerge -uDN world"

2013-12-29 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 01:54:48PM -0200, Zhu wrote: > >> > > Most likely metasploit itself is in world. You can check you worldfile with > > your favourite editor (/var/lib/portage/world). It should also be printed > > bold in the emerge output if your terminal supports it > > > > > > > Yeah, me

Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk

2013-12-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:52:56AM -0700, Joseph wrote: > > I just did, but it doesn't help webkit-gtk-2.0.4 still asking 18GB disk space > to compile. "Checking for sufficient disk space to build ${PN} with debugging CFLAGS" None here and 2.0.4 has built with 7G, and on the other box with 12G

Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk

2013-12-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 08:44:46AM -0700, Joseph wrote: > > > >It appears to only require such a ridiculous amount if you build with > >debugging flags. > > This would be an easy solution but debug flags are off: > [ebuild N ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.3-r300:3 USE="geoloc gstreamer > introsp

Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk

2013-12-23 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:53:16AM -0700, Joseph wrote: > I'm upgrading the system and running out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk > > * Checking for at least 18 gigabytes disk space at > "/var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/temp" ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded

2013-12-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 04:33:13PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > One of my systems has suddenly started displaying a lot of error > messages any time any package is emerged: > > >>> Emerging (1 of 1) x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-9.18 > * rxvt-unicode-9.18.tar.bz2 SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi, problem, problem, problem

2013-12-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 07:17:55PM +, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 19 Dec 2013 15:18:15 the wrote: > > On 12/19/13 17:50, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > I *believe* if you have the driver built into your kernel: > > > CONFIG_IPW2200=y then you need to have the firmware list

Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi, problem, problem, problem

2013-12-19 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 02:19:17PM +0100, Florian HEGRON wrote: > > > > > > This means that driver can not find ipw2200-bss.fw file (probably > > > part of sys-firmware/ipw2200-firmware) to load it to wireless card > > > RAM chip. Ensure that you have that file, usually it is localed > > > in /lib

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:48:33PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > > It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope > > you don't get as offended as some other person. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ben/Assume_th

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:15:59PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: > > > > What does that guys sig say > > > > - List replies preferred. > > > > My sig? > Where is that? It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope you don't get as offended as some other person. Cheers, Bruce

Re: "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

2013-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600 > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > From: Bruce Hill > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean > > Reply-to: gentoo-user@list

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote: > > In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source > is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` What does that guys sig say - List replies preferred. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 08:57:08PM +, Markos Chandras wrote: > > You could get your running config using > > zcat /proc/config.gz > .config Only if you enabled: CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y in your running kernel. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-16 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:30:52PM +0200, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade > > > Sanitize sources > > If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to > sanitize the kernel sources: > > |root # ||make distclean| > > Interestin

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 01:13:06AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and > > look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: > > > > Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] > > Type : tristate > > Defined at li

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:47:44PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:21:42 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* > > > > > > maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:53:39AM +0100, Michael Rühmann wrote: > >> mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz > >> CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y > >> > >> What *is* so difficult about that? > > well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can > > reach that optio

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can > reach that option in xconfig. > > On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other > options that it is VERY probable you never have

Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 07:59:41PM +0100, hasufell wrote: > >> > >> The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? > >> Maybe i'm completely blind... > >> > >> > >> Thanks in advance for any help, > >> Mosh > >> > > lol, done! > > As i thought...i was blind :D > > > > You cou

Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 08:05:14PM -0500, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > > thanks but I had done that and the command is simply > /usr/sbin/wicd --no-daemon > Perhaps relevant is Type=dbus > > Canek points out that wicd has had no new releases. Perhaps I should > switch to networkmanager. I will tr

Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)

2013-12-13 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 04:47:03PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem; > but I was under the impression that wicd is basically dead. Its last > release was more than a year and a half ago. I haven't read the other posts after

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:33:31PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > mingdao@workstation ~ $ grep ruby /etc/portage/make.conf > > RUBY_TARGETS="ruby20" > > > > Can't imagine you didn't know that. Ruby hater? :D > > > > > You could say that: > > $ grep -ir -C1 ruby /etc/portage > /etc/porta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others

2013-12-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 05:52:36PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > The only thing portage can do is assume you want everything to work > under all installed interpreters. If you want to restrict the list of > installed interpreters, use the relevant settings in make.conf. Python > has PYTHON_TARGE

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:35:29AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-12-06 8:13 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > > There are reasons why rsync is better than cp. The best one IMO is that > > rysnc > > will not copy a corrupt file, while cp will. And rsync will tell you about >

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 06:07:01AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > And for the record (you didn't specifically say so), are you in > agreement that > > cp -a /usr/. /usr.tmp/. > > will accomplish the exact same thing as the rsync command I was planning > on using? There are reasons why rsync is b

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-03 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 11:06:16AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > mingdao@server ~ $ df -hT >│link/ether a0:88:b4:54:33:04 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use

Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...

2013-12-03 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 06:47:01AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Yeah, when it comes to servers, I'm more of a wimp than not... but being > careful and conservative on my servers has saved me more times than I > can count, so I'm ok with it... ;) I have one server with separate /usr that's in LVM

Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict when trying to emerge xorg-server-1.14.3-r2

2013-11-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:23:43AM -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: > Hi, > > emerge --oneshot xorg-server throws this error message: > > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled > !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: > > x11-base/xorg-server

Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict when trying to emerge xorg-server-1.14.3-r2

2013-11-14 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:23:43AM -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: > Hi, > > emerge --oneshot xorg-server throws this error message: > > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled > !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: > > x11-base/xorg-server

Re: [gentoo-user] Which Radeon Firmware?

2013-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:41:55PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:03:23 +0100 > schrieb Elias Diem : > > > Hi Bruce > > > > On 2013-11-11, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > > If you have CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m, and > > > CONFIG_EXTRA_

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox not killing processes on close

2013-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:28:19AM -0800, Edward M wrote: > On 11/10/2013 1:38 PM, Dale wrote: > > When it does not kill correctly and I try to restart that > > session, I get the error that the session is already running. > > Hello,:-) > / > /The following article explains how to deal wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Which Radeon Firmware?

2013-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:03:23PM +0100, Elias Diem wrote: > Hi Bruce > > On 2013-11-11, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > If you have CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m, and > > CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR="/lib/firmware/", then the kernel will pick the > > right firmware a

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox not killing processes on close

2013-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:44:10AM -0600, Dale wrote: > > On 10/11/13 at 08:07pm, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Try this hack :) > > > > $ ps -ef | grep [u]rxvt > > yohan 3559 1 0 11:50 ?00:00:00 urxvt > > yohan 3667 1 0 11:52 ?00:00:00 urxvt > > > > That one didn't retu

Re: [gentoo-user] Which Radeon Firmware?

2013-11-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:59:41PM +0100, Elias Diem wrote: > Hi all > > I've got a Radeon graphics card and I don't know which > firmware to use. My model doesn't seem to be listed on > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon#Firmware > > Here is the output from lspci: > > > 00:01.0 VGA compati

Re: [gentoo-user] app-text/poppler-0.24.3 fails to build

2013-11-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:01:18AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: > Hello, > > poppler fails to build for me and i don't know why. > Does someone got an idea about this? > > [ 97%] Building CXX object > qt4/src/CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/ArthurOutputDev.cc.o > cd > /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel guys sent me back here

2013-11-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 12:02:00PM -0800, Grant wrote: > I was referred back to my distro supplier for a kernel crash. Isn't > that a kernel problem? > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62981 The first thing for any crash is logs. And btw ... don't go to the Linux kernel if you're ru

Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?

2013-11-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:28:05PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:29:59 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > I can't understand the *need* for the new slot/subslot philosophy. > > The need to it is clear. Previous methods worked by breaking things and > t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?

2013-11-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 04:44:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I too see your viewpoint, as you see mine. There's nothing wrong with > your logic within the narrow domain of making the code that implements > this specific feature (subslots) work correctly per spec. > > Background: I'm a Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: resolving blocked packages [media-video/ffmpeg-1.2:0]

2013-11-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:15:56AM +, Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: > >> On Monday 04 Nov 2013 19:51:32 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > >> > On 11/03/2013 02:27 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> > > For starters, you should probably merge package.keywords into > >> > > package.accept_keywords; the l

Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?

2013-11-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 07:29:28AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:04:52PM +0100, hasufell wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Another round of questioning the users here. > > > > more specifically: &g

Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?

2013-11-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:04:52PM +0100, hasufell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Another round of questioning the users here. > > more specifically: > * how often do you experience useless rebuilds? > * do you really have a problem with running > revdep-rebuild/hask

Re: [gentoo-user] re: resolving blocked packages [media-video/ffmpeg-1.2:0]

2013-11-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 10:43:07PM +, Mick wrote: > On Monday 04 Nov 2013 19:51:32 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > On 11/03/2013 02:27 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > > For starters, you should probably merge package.keywords into > > > package.accept_keywords; the latter is the "new" standard name

Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience?

2013-11-01 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:11:59PM -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > Making things "just work" is complex when trying to juggle 6 or more > > supported versions/implementations of python. > > Indeed. > > > We have tried to explain the magic make.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] video display problem

2013-10-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:57:14PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Are you running an Nvidia video card with their proprietary driver? > Youtube, even static/paused Youtube images would cause that on such a > setup I once had. I already fixed it and answered my own thread. ;) And, no, I feel the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pentoo overlay

2013-10-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 05:24:55PM +, James wrote: > > The only difference I've see so far is make.conf > is in /etc/portage/. mingdao@server ~ $ eselect news read 5 2012-09-09-make.conf-and-make.profile-move Title make.conf and make.profile move Author

Re: [gentoo-user] video display problem

2013-10-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 08:22:39AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > Last night my laptop began having two problems. > > First, when I paste with middle-click of the mouse into Firefox, there is no > output on the screen for about 2-3 seconds. In Libreoffice it takes about > 7-8s, and

[gentoo-user] video display problem

2013-10-31 Thread Bruce Hill
Last night my laptop began having two problems. First, when I paste with middle-click of the mouse into Firefox, there is no output on the screen for about 2-3 seconds. In Libreoffice it takes about 7-8s, and then the mouse cursor doesn't change from the I-beam back to the pointer for another 2s o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

2013-10-31 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 03:13:37AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on > > everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23" screens at work. Still, I > > just can't seem to like any setup with more than one thing on the sc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

2013-10-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I run 2 browsers, 960x1080 side-by-each, on a 1920x1080 display. What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23" screens at work. Still, I just can't s

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade 4.6.3 to 4.7.3 - any gotchas?

2013-10-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:29:27PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Just asking ahead of time... > > Any major gotchas with respect to this GCC upgrade? > > Does this one introduce any ABI changes that require rebuilding the > entire toolchain... or even world? It's an easy upgrade. Just remember to "

Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience?

2013-10-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:18:11PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:30:57PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote > > > The (non-)relationship between eselect python and PYTHON_TARGETS is > > something that would be nice to resolve, but I don't know how to do > > it. PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET

Re: [gentoo-user] Brand new instalation - Network problem

2013-10-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 08:44:00PM +, João Matos wrote: > Hi list, > > I`ve just installed a brand new gentoo amd64 and there is this problem: my > "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 PCI > Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)" is recognized as *sit0* , b

Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp

2013-10-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 08:37:28PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > On 10/26/2013 08:03 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:52:18PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > >> I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is that > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp

2013-10-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:52:18PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is that > normal? Why would a media player require a remote desktop application > client? > > box0=; equery -C depends --indirect net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1 > *

Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp

2013-10-26 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:52:18PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is that > normal? Why would a media player require a remote desktop application > client? > > box0=; equery -C depends --indirect net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1 > *

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing

2013-10-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 01:36:37PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Just because you got a phone that was bad, and didn't bother to get it > replaced, doesn't make all Galaxy S4 phones as bad as yours. Hey, dipstick! Apparently you can't distinguish between S and S4. :-) -- Happy Penguin Computers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing

2013-10-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 05:31:08PM +, James wrote: > > > > I'm not positive of it's architecture, but for 20 months I had a Samsung > > Galaxy S running Android. This was by far the biggest POS I ever owned. > >From > > th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing

2013-10-24 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:26:05PM +, James wrote: > > specifically for tight target implementations. Samsung is killing > the world, with ARM and open source linux. > > James I'm not positive of it's architecture, but for 20 months I had a Samsung

Re: [gentoo-user] there are no ebuilds to satisfy "=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19".

2013-10-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:36:46AM -0600, Joseph wrote: > I'm tryint to emerge: gtk+-2.24.19 on one of my x86 > but I'm getting: > there are no ebuilds to satisfy "=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19". > > package.keywords has: > =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86 That version is no longer in portage: mingdao@baruc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-22 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:04:21AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Every once in a while, my brain actually comes up with something. ROFL > > Want to hear something equally funny? I started the UPS service that > started this whole mess to see if it works. This is from messages: > > Oct 22 02:47:50 lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Asterisk 11.5.1 MeetMe on Gentoo

2013-10-18 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 06:23:51PM -0500, sbasu...@soft-gator.com wrote: > Hello, > > I am running asterisk with dahdi in several Gentoo servers, everything > works great, but when I try to use meetme it tells me that there is no > application I already try: > > 1. In asterisk command line: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 04:57:46PM -0700, walt wrote: > > > Third thing is, no mouse worky. It works in > > the BIOS but not in the OS. > > Dale, I don't understand what you mean by "works in the BIOS". > Could you give us a few more details? He means the mouse works when he boots and has to se

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 04:40:52PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Well, this is interesting. I swapped out the mobo. First, it has the > UEFI BIOS thing. That was interesting for sure. I'm not complaining > but not used to it and wasn't expecting it either. Second, it works > except for the third par

Re: [gentoo-user] New mobo change

2013-10-15 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 02:49:54AM -0500, Dale wrote: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > Personally, I think all you need to do is to ensure that the kernel > > has all the drivers it needs to speak to the new mobo. Other members > > of the @world set relies on the drivers in the kernel. > > > > But I d

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/nsplugin

2013-10-15 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:38:19AM -0700, Grant wrote: > Multiple instances of /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/nsplugin keep > spawning even after I kill them. I suspect midori although I have the > libreoffice plugin disabled. Has anyone else seen this? How can I > confirm my suspicions? Is pstre

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-10-10 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:18:06AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > This is 3.8.13 now ... with some changed options, sure. > > For now I am happy ... can't believe it yet ;-) Why do you use a kernel that has been abandoned? https://www.kernel.org/ You should use a longterm kernel, prefe

Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives

2013-10-08 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:19:40PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > > I just plugged in my USB memory stick. Here's the output of dmesg with > regard to that: > box0=; dmesg|tail -30 > [ 1674.204287] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 > ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT > [ 1674.

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:36:50PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I > rebooted, it couldn't see my UPS and nut couldn't start its services. > So, it appears that mine must be "ancient" hardware. My messages file > is still full of the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot

2013-10-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:59:52PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > > No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also > remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu > and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I > avoided. > Next,

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:06:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: > > > > Just remove ohci and uhci from the kernel config > > > > > > These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you > > are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) > > > > Well, I'm not sure about my UPS. It co

Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine

2013-10-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:20:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > computer gaming (yawn)... > > > Think again. > > What is the driving force behind all the super-duper performance > hardware you have right now? > > Gaming. > > What is the GPU capable of achieving when parallelized? Well, grap

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mantle Open source GPU engine

2013-10-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 04:49:24PM +, James wrote: > James tampabay.rr.com> writes: > > > > > computer gaming (yawn)... > > "The Kalman filter operates recursively on streams of noisy input data to > produce a statistically optimal estimate of the underlying system state." [1] > > (sounds

Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine

2013-10-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:02:07PM +, James wrote: > Howdy one and all, > > Well I heard about about AMD's push, referred to as Mantle > to unseat DirectX as the defacto gaming platform (yawn)... > > > But recently, an egg_head mathematician that irritates me > from time to time, called me i

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:54:30PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/10/2013 20:48, Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > >> Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: > >> > >&

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 06:47:21PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Rather simple issue: > > I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got > listed first in grub.conf. > > kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various > recompilings never cha

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: > > SYNC="rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage" > > > I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more > traffic out of our network going international. Th

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > > > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html > > Yes, I have been looking at this

[gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-01 Thread Bruce Hill
Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypen

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