Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/02/2025 21:34, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: I don’t even have to format it with the TV. It will only add all the Android-typical directories when I stick in a drive for the first time. The only case when I would need to format a drive: if I want to use it to record TV onto it. Because then the

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 09:56:49PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > The USB 3 family starts at 5 Gbps. All but the cheapest boards have at > > least > > one 10 Gbps USB, either as USB-A or USB-C. Some at the back, some as a new > > internal connector for a USB-C socket at the case front. Still rare are

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 08:21:08PM + schrieb Michael: > On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 20:19:18 Greenwich Mean Time Wol wrote: > > On 25/02/2025 15:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > That said, there is nothing "wrong" with buying M.2 drives just to use > > > them exclusively USB3 enclosures. I just

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 19:18:57 Greenwich Mean Time Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 2:00 PM Michael wrote: > > Unless I'm wrong there is/was a speed penalty when accessing a fs over > > FUSE. Anyway, I was configuring kernel 6.12.16-gentoo today and came > > across this: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 20:19:18 Greenwich Mean Time Wol wrote: > On 25/02/2025 15:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > > That said, there is nothing "wrong" with buying M.2 drives just to use > > them exclusively USB3 enclosures. I just think you're paying a big > > premium for something that isn't rea

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Wol
On 25/02/2025 15:04, Rich Freeman wrote: That said, there is nothing "wrong" with buying M.2 drives just to use them exclusively USB3 enclosures. I just think you're paying a big premium for something that isn't really much better than a thumb drive. Until you get a TV like ours, that DEMANDS

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 2:00 PM Michael wrote: > > > Unless I'm wrong there is/was a speed penalty when accessing a fs over FUSE. > Anyway, I was configuring kernel 6.12.16-gentoo today and came across this: > > CONFIG_FUSE_PASSTHROUGH > > More details here: > > https://lwn.net/Articles/832430/ >

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 17:05:12 Greenwich Mean Time Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:57 AM Dale wrote: > > Still, is FUSE the best way to handle this or should it be done the same > > way as EXT4? I don't recall enabling FUSE so I figure it is enabled by > > default or somet

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:26 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm pretty sure you mentioned this once before in one of my older > threads. I can't find it tho. I use PCIe x1 cards to connect my SATA > drives for my video collection and such. You mentioned once what the > bandwidth was for that setup and how

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:32 AM Dale wrote: >> Even tho the USB on my phone is slow, my puter USB isn't the fastest out >> there either, it is pretty darn fast. > Sure, but it would be just as fast with a $30 USB thumb drive as with > an M.2 drive plus enclosure and all that

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:57 AM Dale wrote: > > Still, is FUSE the best way to handle this or should it be done the same way > as EXT4? I don't recall enabling FUSE so I figure it is enabled by default > or something. ext4 is a filesystem. FUSE is a kernel API that can be used to implement a

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 14:48:52 Greenwich Mean Time Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 24 February 2025 22:48:26 Greenwich Mean Time Frank Steinmetzger > > wrote: > > You need a common denominator. ExFat is a good candidate, methinks, as it > > won’t give any issues with file permissions. Si

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 10:32 AM Dale wrote: > > Even tho the USB on my phone is slow, my puter USB isn't the fastest out > there either, it is pretty darn fast. Sure, but it would be just as fast with a $30 USB thumb drive as with an M.2 drive plus enclosure and all that. > Also, very large sto

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 11:00:08 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 03:56:49 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: >>> >>> [snip ...] >>> I just took the m.2 stick thingy and plugged it into my phone. It popped up and said s

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:26 AM Dale wrote: >> I'm glad I followed that other thread. I feel a lot better about this >> method of storage. I'm also feeling better about USB and storage >> itself. I've been really nervous about that for a long time now. It's >> also pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 7:26 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm glad I followed that other thread. I feel a lot better about this > method of storage. I'm also feeling better about USB and storage > itself. I've been really nervous about that for a long time now. It's > also pretty easy to copy media from

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 24 February 2025 22:48:26 Greenwich Mean Time Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > You need a common denominator. ExFat is a good candidate, methinks, as it > won’t give any issues with file permissions. Since I’ve never held an iOS > device in my hands, I have no idea about what FS they support

[gentoo-user] Re: m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2025-02-25, Wols Lists wrote: > Champagne or Coca-Cola? > > New tech generally costs double the price for double the quantity, be it > hard drive capacity, chip speed, whatever. > > Older tech tends to be a similar price regardless of capacity, the bulk > of the cost is in the packaging and

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 24/02/2025 18:58, Dale wrote: >> Thoughts?  What would you do?  The 480GB is likely big enough for now. > > Dunno about your consumer protection laws, but over here > > 1) Inaccurate description? Automatic right of return for a couple of > months. Opened or not! > > 2) Mail o

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 11:00:08 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 03:56:49 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > > > > [snip ...] > > > >> I just took the m.2 stick thingy and plugged it > >> into my phone. It popped up and said something about n

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 03:56:49 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: > > [snip ...] > >> I just took the m.2 stick thingy and plugged it >> into my phone. It popped up and said something about not being ready to >> access and did I want to format it. Well, g, why would I wan

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 25 February 2025 03:56:49 Greenwich Mean Time Dale wrote: [snip ...] > I just took the m.2 stick thingy and plugged it > into my phone. It popped up and said something about not being ready to > access and did I want to format it. Well, g, why would I want > that ROFL I cl

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread n952162
On 2/25/25 09:35, Matt Jolly wrote: Hi, That's an option.  It means I'd have to dedicate an entire volume to that, but it's doable. A bind mount will not require this. > Bind mount operation >   Remount part of the file hierarchy somewhere else. The call is: >  mount --bind olddir newdir

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread Viorel Munteanu
La 25.02.2025 10:05, n952162 a scris: I just successfully updated world.  In order to make room in my root, I subsequently moved /var/tmp/portage to a mounted usb stick and symlinked it to /var/tmp. You don't need to use symlinks, you can simply set PORTAGE_TMPDIR in your make.conf. Whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread Matt Jolly
On 25/2/25 18:23, n952162 wrote: I have a second  question that's a follow up to that. Does portage *remove* some files in /var/tmp/portage but retain others? Yes. Successful merges are purged, otherwise you'd quickly run out of disk space. This is important to me because I want to use th

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread n952162
That's an option.  It means I'd have to dedicate an entire volume to that, but it's doable. But if the unpack phase insists on doing a "mkdir /var/tmp/portage", would that work with a mounted drive? In fact, it's hard for me to image that the unpack phase would fail on that, it's just a first gu

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[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread n952162
On 2025/02/25 09:05, n952162 wrote: I have a second  question that's a follow up to that. As explained, I moved /var/tmp/portage to a mounted drive and symlinked it.  When that failed, I copied that directory back to /var/tmp/portage and was able to emerge pavucontrol. But now I observe someth

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/02/2025 18:58, Dale wrote: Thoughts?  What would you do?  The 480GB is likely big enough for now. Dunno about your consumer protection laws, but over here 1) Inaccurate description? Automatic right of return for a couple of months. Opened or not! 2) Mail order? Automatic right of retu

Re: [gentoo-user] m.2 nvme stick not what I was expecting at all.

2025-02-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/02/2025 04:20, Dale wrote: I'm kinda the same way.  I rarely buy the latest stuff.  To often, it is just to pricey.  Drop down a little and save a lot of money and the performance is almost as good.  I'm the same on this m.2 external stick.  I don't need the very latest products.  Odds

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread Matt Jolly
Hi, On 25/2/25 18:05, n952162 wrote: In order to make room in my root, I subsequently moved /var/tmp/portage to a mounted usb stick and symlinked it to /var/tmp. Have you tried mounting (or bind mounting) to /var/tmp/portage instead of symlinking? Regards, Matt

[gentoo-user] ebuild failure in unpack

2025-02-25 Thread n952162
I just successfully updated world.  In order to make room in my root, I subsequently moved /var/tmp/portage to a mounted usb stick and symlinked it to /var/tmp. /var/cache/{binpkgs,distfiles} are already successfully located on that device, over symlinks. Now, when I try to emerge pavucontrol, a