Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 10:35 AM Michael wrote: > > Host managed SMRs (HM-SMR) require the OS and FS to be aware of the need for > sequential writes and manage submitted data sympathetically to this limitation > of the SMR drive, by queuing up random writes in batches and submitting these > as a s

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday 15 November 2024 11:59:34 GMT Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Friday 15 November 2024 05:53:53 GMT Dale wrote: The thing about my data, it's mostly large video files. If I were storing documents or something, then SSD or something would be a good opti

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg

2024-11-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 11/15/24 9:52 AM, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > Thank you, both! > > > On 15/11/2024 14:05, Jacques Montier wrote: >> What if you try this : >> emerge -auvDN --getbinpkgonly --with-bdeps=y --binpkg-respect-use=y -- >> keep-going world > > This does indeed suggest to replace existing b

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg

2024-11-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 11/15/24 7:42 AM, byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > My only question that remains is whether I should change the existing > value for CFLAGS (I presume so). Currently, I have: > >     COMMON_FLAGS="-march=znver4 -O2 -pipe" > > (yes CFLAGS etc are set to use $COMMON_FLAGS). > > Since I'm p

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Michael
On Friday 15 November 2024 11:59:34 GMT Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Friday 15 November 2024 05:53:53 GMT Dale wrote: > >> The thing about my data, it's mostly large video files. If I were > >> storing documents or something, then SSD or something would be a good > >> option. Plus, I mostl

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg

2024-11-15 Thread byte . size226
Thank you, both! On 15/11/2024 14:05, Jacques Montier wrote: > What if you try this : > emerge -auvDN --getbinpkgonly --with-bdeps=y --binpkg-respect-use=y -- > keep-going world This does indeed suggest to replace existing builds with the upstream binary ones. I traced this to --getbinpkgonly

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg

2024-11-15 Thread Matt Jolly
Hi, Since I'm planning to use binary packages from x86-64-v3, I presume this should be changed to:     COMMON_FLAGS="-march=x86-64-v3 -O2 -pipe" or, perhaps:     COMMON_FLAGS="-march=x86-64-v3 -mtune=znver4 -O2 -pipe" ? You want to match the binhost flags: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/G

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg

2024-11-15 Thread Jacques Montier
Le ven. 15 nov. 2024 à 13:42, a écrit : > Hello, > > I'm sure this has been asked before but, clearly, my archive search > skills are sub-par. I'm hoping it would be a quick "yes/no" kind of answer. > > Long story short, I decided to try out the Gentoo setup with binary > package host. I've been

[gentoo-user] Migrating existing Gentoo to binpkg

2024-11-15 Thread byte . size226
Hello, I'm sure this has been asked before but, clearly, my archive search skills are sub-par. I'm hoping it would be a quick "yes/no" kind of answer. Long story short, I decided to try out the Gentoo setup with binary package host. I've been making my way through the relevant news item [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] anyone know what this line means?

2024-11-15 Thread Dale
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. I have been getting a strange line in my logs lately: > > (systemd): pam_systemd(systemd-user:session): Failed to create > session: Invalid session class manager-early: 4 Time(s) > So, anyone know what this means -- do I need to fix anything? > > This

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Freitag, 15. November 2024, 06:53:53 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb > Dale: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:10 PM Dale wrote: The biggest downside to the large drives available now, even if SMART tells you a drive is failing, you

[gentoo-user] anyone know what this line means?

2024-11-15 Thread covici
Hi. I have been getting a strange line in my logs lately: (systemd): pam_systemd(systemd-user:session): Failed to create session: Invalid session class manager-early: 4 Time(s) So, anyone know what this means -- do I need to fix anything? This is on a gentoo system updated about 3 we

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with commands "reboot" and "shutdown"

2024-11-15 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:15:08 + you wrote: > >> ... >> I have no split-usr system here to compare notes, but did you try rebuilding >> the sys-auth/elogind package just in case? > Yes, I did. With and without USE flag "cgroup-hybrid" which was enabled > by

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with commands "reboot" and "shutdown"

2024-11-15 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 19:15:08 + you wrote: > ... > I have no split-usr system here to compare notes, but did you try rebuilding > the sys-auth/elogind package just in case? Yes, I did. With and without USE flag "cgroup-hybrid" which was enabled by default up to version 246.10-r4 inc

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday 15 November 2024 05:53:53 GMT Dale wrote: > >> The thing about my data, it's mostly large video files. If I were >> storing documents or something, then SSD or something would be a good >> option. Plus, I mostly write once, then it either sits there a while or >> gets r

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Freitag, 15. November 2024, 06:53:53 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb Dale: > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:10 PM Dale wrote: > >> The biggest downside to the large drives available now, even if SMART > >> tells you a drive is failing, you likely won't have time to copy

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Michael
On Friday 15 November 2024 05:53:53 GMT Dale wrote: > The thing about my data, it's mostly large video files. If I were > storing documents or something, then SSD or something would be a good > option. Plus, I mostly write once, then it either sits there a while or > gets read on occasion. For

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/2024 00:18, Peter Humphrey wrote: In the 70s and 80s the national grid control centre in this country used three 2MB disks, any one or two of which could be online at any time. I can't tell you the platter size, but they were mounted in cabinets about 5' long, 3'6" tall and 2' wide. Each

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Michael
On Thursday 14 November 2024 22:38:59 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 14/11/2024 20:33, Dale wrote: > > It's one thing that kinda gets on my nerves about SMR. It seems, > > sounds, like they tried to hide it from people to make money. Thing is, > > as some learned, they don't do well in a RAID and som

[gentoo-user] Hollerith (was: Seagate hard drives with dual actuators)

2024-11-15 Thread karl
Peter Humphrey: ... > I hate to think how many miles of 8-hole tape I wound and rewound. Thank > goodness we didn't have to cope with 80-column punched cards (Hollerith?) as > the ivory-tower, batch-processing mainframe people did. ... Hollerith was the founder of the company which later became