Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:10 PM Dale wrote: >> The biggest downside to the large drives available now, even if SMART >> tells you a drive is failing, you likely won't have time to copy the >> data over to a new drive before it fails. On a 18TB drive, using >> pvmove, it can

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 init: Was sinit (suckless init) + daemontools-encore on Gentoo

2024-11-14 Thread Jack Ostroff
On 11/14/24 5:02 PM, Hoël Bézier wrote: Chiming in a bit late, but what you want to do would be totally feasible: I actually run gentoo with s6-linux-init (instead of sinit) and s6 (instead of daemontools-encore). As someone else said, the most troublesome part is writing service scripts for ev

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:10 PM Dale wrote: > > The biggest downside to the large drives available now, even if SMART > tells you a drive is failing, you likely won't have time to copy the > data over to a new drive before it fails. On a 18TB drive, using > pvmove, it can take a long time to move

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 14 November 2024 16:48:56 GMT Dale wrote: > I remember seeing old drives that had I think 14" platters. They had > large motors to spin them. The controller was a separate thing too. I > think their capacity was like 30 or 40MBs or so. It usually took two > people to move one of th

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 14 November 2024 19:55:19 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Lol, writing the above text gave me the strange feeling of having written it > before. So I looked into my archive and I have indeed: in June 2014 *and* > in December 2020. 🫣 Tiresomely repetitious, then... :) -- Regards, Pe

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 3:33 PM Dale wrote: >> >> I've had a Seagate, a Maxtor from way back and a Western Digital go bad. >> This is one reason I don't knock any drive maker. Any of them can produce a >> bad drive. > ++ > > All the consumer drive manufacturers are in a s

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 14. November 2024, 20:12:25 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit > The only Seagate 7200RPM disk I have started playing up a month ago. I now > have to replace it. :-( The German tech bubble has a saying when it’s about Seagate: “Sie geht oder sie geht nicht”. It plays on the fact that

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/11/2024 20:33, Dale wrote: It's one thing that kinda gets on my nerves about SMR.  It seems, sounds, like they tried to hide it from people to make money.  Thing is, as some learned, they don't do well in a RAID and some other situations.  Heck, they do OK reading but when writing, they c

Re: [gentoo-user] sinit (suckless init) + daemontools-encore on Gentoo

2024-11-14 Thread Hoël Bézier
Am Di, Nov 05, 2024 am 10:44:48 -0300 schrieb Eduardo Santos: I searched for sinit on the gentoo-user archives and couldn't find anything, there's only a few Reddit threads which don't help much. Would it be possible to follow the steps here[1] to use sinit + daemontools-encore on Gentoo, or are

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 3:33 PM Dale wrote: > > > I've had a Seagate, a Maxtor from way back and a Western Digital go bad. > This is one reason I don't knock any drive maker. Any of them can produce a > bad drive. ++ All the consumer drive manufacturers are in a super-price-conscious market.

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 14 November 2024 17:00:07 GMT Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Wednesday 13 November 2024 23:10:10 GMT Dale wrote: Howdy, One of my PVs is about 83% full. Time to add more space, soon anyway. I try not to go past 90%. Anyway, I was looking at h

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 14. November 2024, 20:51:32 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > Am Donnerstag, 14. November 2024, 20:12:25 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit > > > The only Seagate 7200RPM disk I have started playing up a month ago. I > > now > > have to replace it. :-( > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with commands "reboot" and "shutdown"

2024-11-14 Thread Michael
On Thursday 14 November 2024 17:35:42 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Steve, > > On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:42:40 + you wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:58:53 +0100 > > > > ralfconn wrote: > > > ... > > > /bin and /sbin should be symlinks to /usr/bin if you switched to > > > > > profile 23.0: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Michael
On Thursday 14 November 2024 17:00:07 GMT Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Wednesday 13 November 2024 23:10:10 GMT Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> One of my PVs is about 83% full. Time to add more space, soon anyway. > >> I try not to go past 90%. Anyway, I was looking at hard drives and >

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with commands "reboot" and "shutdown"

2024-11-14 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Steve, On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:42:40 + you wrote: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:58:53 +0100 > ralfconn wrote: > > > ... > > /bin and /sbin should be symlinks to /usr/bin if you switched to > > profile 23.0: > > > > But not if they switched to 23.0/split-usr like me. I get: > ... > ls -l /sbin/reb

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 13/11/2024 23:10, Dale wrote: >> My question is this.  Given they cost about $20 more, from what I've >> found anyway, is it worth it?  Is there a downside to this new set of >> heads being added?  I'm thinking a higher failure rate, more risk to >> data or something like tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Wednesday 13 November 2024 23:10:10 GMT Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> One of my PVs is about 83% full. Time to add more space, soon anyway. >> I try not to go past 90%. Anyway, I was looking at hard drives and >> noticed something new. I think I saw one a while back but didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Dale
Matt Jolly wrote: > Hi Dale, > >> My question is this.  Given they cost about $20 more, from what I've >> found anyway, is it worth it?  Is there a downside to this new set of >> heads being added?  I'm thinking a higher failure rate, more risk to >> data or something like that.  I think this is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Michael
On Wednesday 13 November 2024 23:10:10 GMT Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > One of my PVs is about 83% full. Time to add more space, soon anyway. > I try not to go past 90%. Anyway, I was looking at hard drives and > noticed something new. I think I saw one a while back but didn't look > into it at the