Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 17:52 -0400, james wrote: > > If you like, elaboration is appreciated. > In no particular order: - MailExtensions change would have broken some of the addons I use to fix deficiencies in the feature set - The change to integrated PGP, rather than an addon, means Linux user

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread Aisha Tammy
On 8/19/20 2:37 PM, james wrote: > Fellow Thunderbird aficionados: > > > It was release mid July: > > https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ > > > Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild? > > > James > There is a mozilla project at ge

[gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread james
Fellow Thunderbird aficionados: It was release mid July: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild? James

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:37:30 -0400, james wrote: > It was release mid July: > > https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ > > > Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild? https://bugs.gentoo.org/733062 "Mozilla Thunderbird 78.0 is now availab

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread james
On 8/19/20 4:22 PM, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 15:41 -0400, Aisha Tammy wrote: (there are A LOT of changes) At the risk of derailing the thread, I moved to using Evolution because of the T-Bird v78 changes. If you like, elaboration is appreciated. James

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 15:41 -0400, Aisha Tammy wrote: > (there are A LOT of changes) At the risk of derailing the thread, I moved to using Evolution because of the T-Bird v78 changes.

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-19 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > Per protocol specification, SMTP is EXTREMELY robust. > > It will retry delivery, nominally once an hour, for up to five (or > seven) days. That's 120-168 delivery attempts. > > Further, SMTP implementa

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-19 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 12:25 PM, Ashley Dixon wrote: > I don't think you fully understand Grant's point. Whilst HTTP(/2) may be more > featureful for serving web pages, it makes absolutely no sense to use for > anything but. Protocol age absolutely is not i

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-19 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 14:37 -0400, james wrote: > > Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild? > Doesn't seem to be one available, yet. https://gpo.zugaina.org/mail-client/thunderbird

[gentoo-user] Fvwm manual page

2020-08-19 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Greetings, after a routine upgrade from Fvwm version 2.6.5-r3 to version 2.6.9 I'm missing file "/usr/share/man/man1/fvwm1.bz2". Several other Fvwm manual pages are there, but I can't tell whether or not "fvwm1.bz2" is the only one missing. Does anybody know what's happened to "fvwm1.bz2"? Sin

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-19 Thread Grant Taylor
First, well said. On 8/19/20 2:27 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote: Apologies for my unintended verbosity. My subconscious _really_ wanted to point out that SMTP is (generally) RELIABLE. ;-) Second, this is an understatement. Per protocol specification, SMTP is EXTREMELY robust. It will retry delivery

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to switch back to AMD?

2020-08-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:44 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > How are the AMD "Wraith Stealth" fans? I've been using the fan that > came with the old Core-i3, and it gets a little annoying when it's > time to compile chromium (or when flying planes/helicopters). I have two Ryzen processors with thes

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to switch back to AMD?

2020-08-19 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> For several decades, I was a loyal AMD customer. But the last time I >> upgraded my home desktop (2013), AMD just didn't seem to have anything >> that could complete with the Core-i3/5 CPUs with integrated graphics. >> The Intel HD-2500 GPU was plenty fast eno

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to switch back to AMD?

2020-08-19 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > For several decades, I was a loyal AMD customer. But the last time I > upgraded my home desktop (2013), AMD just didn't seem to have anything > that could complete with the Core-i3/5 CPUs with integrated graphics. > The Intel HD-2500 GPU was plenty fast enough for everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to switch back to AMD?

2020-08-19 Thread antlists
On 19/08/2020 04:44, Grant Edwards wrote: How are the AMD "Wraith Stealth" fans? I've been using the fan that came with the old Core-i3, and it gets a little annoying when it's time to compile chromium (or when flying planes/helicopters). If you're talking about what I think you are, I'm build

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-19 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 09:25:11AM +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > reliable method of reliably transferring Apologies for my unintended verbosity. My subconscious _really_ wanted to point out that SMTP is (generally) RELIABLE. ;-) -- Ashley Dixon suugaku.co.uk 2A9A 4117 DA96 D18A 8A7B B0D2 A30E B

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-19 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 01:34:46AM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > sure, smtp is older, but protocol age is > irrelevant. > > right now http/2 is more developed and much more > efficient (e.g. compressed binary, pipelining, > single connection multiplexing, encryption by > default). even htt