[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-21 Thread walt
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:45:23 -0500 Dale wrote: > walt wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:11:48 + (UTC) > > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >>> Google has just introduced a 120-second delay before allowing > >>> login to their email servers. Just in the last day or two, > >>> literally. > >> I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:05:57PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doing but with a decent > > interface and the ability to type the details into web pages for you. > > But does it store the data on someone's server?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
walt wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:11:48 + (UTC) > Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> Google has just introduced a 120-second delay before allowing login >>> to their email servers. Just in the last day or two, literally. >> I'm not seeing that with either of my gmail accounts. Same login >> tim

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-21 Thread walt
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:11:48 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > > Google has just introduced a 120-second delay before allowing login > > to their email servers. Just in the last day or two, literally. > > I'm not seeing that with either of my gmail accounts. Same login > times as always (1-

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-22, walt wrote: > Very soon after being invited to open a gmail account, I discovered > that google offers non-web-browser access to their free (as in beer) > email servers. Yep. Their IMAP implementation is pretty well done. Definitly better than courier and far better than MS exch

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:31:52 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > I have owncloud working just fine, although I don't use it for passwords > > -- for those I just have a pgp key and individual files and I have an > > iphone app which can decrypt them. > > Have you tr

[gentoo-user] [OT] Very recent change in behavior of gmail imap/smtp servers

2015-07-21 Thread walt
Very soon after being invited to open a gmail account, I discovered that google offers non-web-browser access to their free (as in beer) email servers. This puzzled me (still does) because it seems to violate google's basic business model, which is based on advertising revenue. (I never see an ad

[gentoo-user] Re: SDDM/KDE5: no sound card available?

2015-07-21 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2015-07-21 14:12, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > I upgraded to KDE 5 recently, and was using LightDM as the display > manager. It seems that KDE 5 prefers SDDM though and offers a > config module for it in System Settings. > > So I installed SDDM. H

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:35:27 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then >> uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, >> they can't get in it either. All they get is encrypted data. > Unless the

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 18:35:27 Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites like banking and such

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 21.07.2015 um 01:18 schrieb walt: > I suspect most people don't even know firefox has a ProfileManager, but > I'm here to warn you not to use it. It just cost me years of bookmarks > and saved passwords. > > For testing purposes I invoked firefox-bin with the -ProfileManager > flag (don't do th

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread Jc García
2015-07-21 17:06 GMT-06:00 : > Also I was only talking about the step in the installation guide where > called "choosing the right profile". Locales comes later. > LOCALE is one thing, LINGUAS and stuff that goes into make.conf is another, the result of not having linguas set almost imediatly, i

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:23:56 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > > Remember that udev is part of systemd, which is why you cannot have > > both packages installed. After unmerging udev, emerging systemd brings > > it back anyway. Your only window of risk is something happening > > between those two o

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:35:27 -0500, Dale wrote: > From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then > uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, > they can't get in it either. All they get is encrypted data. Unless the source is available, there i

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:31:52 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > I have owncloud working just fine, although I don't use it for passwords > -- for those I just have a pgp key and individual files and I have an > iphone app which can decrypt them. Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doin

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 21 July 2015 19:06:10 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21 2015, Jc García wrote: > > 2015-07-21 14:23 GMT-06:00 : > >> Probably the --unmerge would have worked. But I basically started over > >> (untar of the stage3) and applied canek two-step recipe > >> > >>First switch to

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 21 2015, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-21 14:23 GMT-06:00 : >> Probably the --unmerge would have worked. But I basically started over >> (untar of the stage3) and applied canek two-step recipe >>First switch to the systemd profile and emerge world >>Second switch to the gnome/sy

[gentoo-user] Re: Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread walt
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:53:42 +0100 Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: > > >> This wouldn't help with some of the things you lost but it will > > >> with your passwords at least. For passwords, this will help and > > >> you can use it somewhere else as well since it is por

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread Jc García
2015-07-21 14:23 GMT-06:00 : > Probably the --unmerge would have worked. But I basically started over > (untar of the stage3) and applied canek two-step recipe >First switch to the systemd profile and emerge world >Second switch to the gnome/system profile and emerge gnome > > It worked w

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread covici
Chris Spackman wrote: > On 2015/07/21 at 02:59pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:09:38 +1000, wraeth wrote: > > > > > Have you tried Syncthing - http://syncthing.net/ ? > > > > No I haven't, but one of the main reasons for that is because I > > > mostly bypassed online (read: n

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 21 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:13:19 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> > Did you read this part? >> > >> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Optional:_Using_systemd >> >> Yes I did and had the systemd wiki page on a chromium tab wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 18:35:27 Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: > >> I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something > >> that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites > >> like banking and such each have thei

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Jul 20 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:02 PM, wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 18 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:00 PM, wrote: >> >> >> >> I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, >> >> user. I also us

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Spackman
On 2015/07/21 at 02:59pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:09:38 +1000, wraeth wrote: > > > Have you tried Syncthing - http://syncthing.net/ ? > > No I haven't, but one of the main reasons for that is because I > > mostly bypassed online (read: not controlled by myself) services > >

[gentoo-user] CLS install

2015-07-21 Thread James
Hello, Well I just read where some folks use Calculate Linux Scratch [1] to install gentoo. I guess you use the Calculate installer [2] and then just easily [3] convert to gentoo as part of a new installation. You can even customize your install [4]. "Later on, you should only have to remove sys

Re: [gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-21 Thread Zeev Pekar
On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 07:18 -0600, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-21 5:41 GMT-06:00 Zeev Pekar : > > Dear Gentoo Developers, > > > > We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation > > Library . > > > > May I ask somebody to volunteer to package it for Gentoo? >

[gentoo-user] SDDM/KDE5: no sound card available?

2015-07-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I upgraded to KDE 5 recently, and was using LightDM as the display manager. It seems that KDE 5 prefers SDDM though and offers a config module for it in System Settings. So I installed SDDM. However, when I log in with SDDM, I get no sound. My sound card just... disappears. "alsamixer -c0" say

Re: [gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-21 Thread Zeev Pekar
On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 16:55 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:18:58 -0600 Jc García wrote: > > 2015-07-21 5:41 GMT-06:00 Zeev Pekar : > > > Dear Gentoo Developers, > > > > > > We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation > > > Library

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: >> >> >> I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something >> that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites >> like banking and such each have their own random generated one. I also >> try to ge

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:09:38 +1000, wraeth wrote: > > Have you tried Syncthing - http://syncthing.net/ ? I only discovered > > it recently and it is a really nice syncing solution if you just want > > to keep files available in multiple locations without the complexity > > of ownCloud or the limit

Re: [gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:18:58 -0600 Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-21 5:41 GMT-06:00 Zeev Pekar : > > Dear Gentoo Developers, > > > > We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation > > Library . > > > > May I ask somebody to volunteer to package it for Gentoo? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-21 Thread Jc García
2015-07-21 5:41 GMT-06:00 Zeev Pekar : > Dear Gentoo Developers, > > We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation > Library . > > May I ask somebody to volunteer to package it for Gentoo? > > Packaging efforts for other distros are underway and probably ca

[gentoo-user] Packaging ASL

2015-07-21 Thread Zeev Pekar
Dear Gentoo Developers, We have just released the version 0.1.4 of ASL - Advanced Simulation Library . May I ask somebody to volunteer to package it for Gentoo? Packaging efforts for other distros are underway and probably can be helpful for Gentoo [1]. Thank you, Zeev --

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:41:03AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:27:32 +1000, wraeth wrote: > > > > Something like KeePass. It has Linux, Windows and Android clients and > > > because the file is encrypted locally, you can store it in a cloud > > > service, although I now us

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:27:32 +1000, wraeth wrote: > > Something like KeePass. It has Linux, Windows and Android clients and > > because the file is encrypted locally, you can store it in a cloud > > service, although I now use Syncthing to keep it on all my devices, > > now that my life is free of

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:38:50AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Something like KeePass. It has Linux, Windows and Android clients and > because the file is encrypted locally, you can store it in a cloud > service, although I now use Syncthing to keep it on all my devices, now > that my life is fre

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:53:42 +0100, Mick wrote: > A better, as in more secure, solution should involve local encryption > and IMHO local air-gapped storage. A USB key will do nicely and you > can have a second USB key stored in your brother's premises, for > disaster recovery scenarios. Somethin

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote: > >> This wouldn't help with some of the things you lost but it will with > >> your passwords at least. For passwords, this will help and you can use > >> it somewhere else as well s

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:13:19 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > > Did you read this part? > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Optional:_Using_systemd > > > > Yes I did and had the systemd wiki page on a chromium tab while > installing. > > > It's been some mont

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I check for haveing an ethernet "device"

2015-07-21 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >on an embedded system I want to check, whether I have an eth0 "device" >(ok, I know, it is not an device in the usual way...), when I attach >an USB2Ethernet gadget via OTG-cable to it and whether all needed >drivers are already there... > >H