[gentoo-user] Re: zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-12 Thread Martin Vaeth
Andrew Tselischev wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0700, walt wrote: [...] >> http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) Note that this does not activate all features e.g. concerning completion: You can have files displayed in your custom "ls" colors in the "selection"

[gentoo-user] Anyone's kernel getting panicky????

2015-07-12 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, Just did an eix-sync followed by an emerge -NuD world and then the manual kernel, nvidia drivers build and grub2 fixup. When I rebooted I got a kernel panic. It appears to be very early on in the process as I get minimal stuff flashing up the screen before the panic. Any thoughts on

Re: [gentoo-user] zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-12 Thread Andrew Tselischev
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0700, walt wrote: > Maybe someone here has missed the recent discussion of zsh? ;) > > I just found this website, giving a wonderful primer on how to > configure zsh: > > http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) > > Disclaimer: I have no ide

[gentoo-user] zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-12 Thread walt
Maybe someone here has missed the recent discussion of zsh? ;) I just found this website, giving a wonderful primer on how to configure zsh: http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) Disclaimer: I have no idea who they are, but I found this article very helpful indeed, and thei

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Thomas Mueller
All that has been said on this thread supposes that the hard drive is still readable and writable. But the original post stated this was a failed drive. Then you might not be able to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx .. or whatever else. You would be stopped by bad sectors. Or a hard drive might not

Re: [gentoo-user] php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/12/2015 03:40 PM, James wrote: > > Makes sense; but I cannot find the file. I get lots of hits for a > "configure.in" in my code trees, but little on the rest of the system; here > are the few: It doesn't get installed. Just like how ./configure creates your Makefile, there's something that

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > > But, simpler: if you combine a random stream of data with what is on the > drive, the result looks just like random data. You need only overwrite the > drive once. I think that assumes that the two get averaged together in some way and cannot be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread wraeth
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 09:57:50PM +, James wrote: > Mick gmail.com> writes: > > > > Did you start an emerge of php and then looked in your /var/tmp/portage to > > find it? > > > No. I was hoping it was a common issue for folks up on php. Yea, I'll keep > digging Since I found several

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I agree. Being able to customise is good, but the defaults should be > sensible and appealing to new users. Yes, but not only new users but also not breaking expectations of old users are important - it is a subtle balance, and shells tend to be conservative here (bash is

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread R0b0t1
@topic: I would strongly suggest using a hardware key that also utilizes a passphrase. To delete, remove the key and/or don't tell anyone the passphrase. If you need to destroy a platter drive take it apart and sand the platters (probably the easiest). If it's solid state heat the drive over 150C-2

[gentoo-user] Re: php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread James
Mick gmail.com> writes: > Did you start an emerge of php and then looked in your /var/tmp/portage to > find it? No. I was hoping it was a common issue for folks up on php. Yea, I'll keep digging Since I found several dead(links) ends I was also hoping it just old cruft that has been solv

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > read the second link I provided. > I did. It contains no theoretical arguments against the possibility of data recovery. Theoretical limits would be ones like the uncertainty principle. If a given amount of matter could only store

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2015 um 23:10 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> Unlike you, I read some stuff before posting. This is OLD NEWS: > No need to be rude. > >> http://www.howtogeek.com/115573/htg-explains-why-you-only-have-to-wipe-a-disk-once-to-erase-it

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Unlike you, I read some stuff before posting. This is OLD NEWS: No need to be rude. > > http://www.howtogeek.com/115573/htg-explains-why-you-only-have-to-wipe-a-disk-once-to-erase-it/ > > http://www.vidarholen.net/~vidar/overwritin

Re: [gentoo-user] php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 Jul 2015 20:40:35 James wrote: > Hello, > > > So lately I've been using elogv for a convenience way to ensure no > issues with the most recent packages installed or upgraded. It's a neat > little tool. Today I found this: > > dev-lang/php-5.6.10 - 07/10/2015{in purple} > > snip

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/07/2015 22:46, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/12/2015 12:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> It's because the "RAID" abilities built into most motherboards are >> really shitty. Very little, if any, optimization going on, no real >> intelligence, and the whole thing just looks and feels like it's no m

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/12/2015 12:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > It's because the "RAID" abilities built into most motherboards are > really shitty. Very little, if any, optimization going on, no real > intelligence, and the whole thing just looks and feels like it's no more > than 2 or more volumes shoved into one

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2015 um 21:14 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> actually 1 time is enough. With zeros. Or ones. Does not matter at all. >> > That depends on your threat model. nope. It doesn't. You believe in some urban legend you never dared to

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:21:41 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > While some kind of native support would be nice, and likely more > efficient in some ways, you could just layer btrfs on top of an > encrypted loopback device. The problem with that approach, if you use RAID, is that all writes must be en

[gentoo-user] php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread James
Hello, >> So lately I've been using elogv for a convenience way to ensure no issues with the most recent packages installed or upgraded. It's a neat little tool. Today I found this: dev-lang/php-5.6.10 - 07/10/2015{in purple} snipped::> "This package has a configure.in file which has long

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/07/2015 20:51, Alex Thorne wrote: > I'm afraid I won't be testing it any time soon -- I don't have any > drives to pair at the moment. As for your comments about dmraid being > 'fake', I'm a little confused. From what you say it sounds like this is > the hardware RAID that comes with many mot

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:48:48 -0400 > schrieb Rich Freeman : > >> If it weren't painful to set up and complicated for rescue attempts, >> I'd just use full-disk encryption with a strong key on a flash drive >> or similar. Then the disk is as

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > actually 1 time is enough. With zeros. Or ones. Does not matter at all. > That depends on your threat model. If you're concerned about somebody reading the contents of the drive using the standard ATA commands, then once with zero

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Alex Thorne
I'm afraid I won't be testing it any time soon -- I don't have any drives to pair at the moment. As for your comments about dmraid being 'fake', I'm a little confused. From what you say it sounds like this is the hardware RAID that comes with many motherboards. Why is hardware RAID undesirable over

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:52:34 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > It is with shells as with editors: Whatever is the default, > > quite a lot of people will not be satisfied with it. > > I disagree. It should work out of the box. People can change it later. > > Having it not work at all is just

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/07/15 23:56, Martin Vaeth wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I really don't have time to learn arcane settings anymore. That's why it is good that you can adapt the shell completely to your needs: My opinion is that the computer must adapt to *my* habits and not vice versa. If it doesn'

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2015 um 14:35 schrieb Marc Joliet: > Hi, > > I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, but > want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a btrfs > RAID10 array, but needed to be replaced (with "btrfs replace"). (In the > meantime I co

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Marc Joliet
(Thanks to everyone for the replies so far!) Am Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:48:48 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman : > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > > > My question is how precisely the disks should be cleared. From various > > sources > > I know that overwriting them with random d

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Francisco Ares
Em 12/07/2015 10:03, "Mick" escreveu: > > On Sunday 12 Jul 2015 13:35:25 Marc Joliet wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, > > but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a > > btrfs RAID10 array, but needed to b

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 Jul 2015 13:35:25 Marc Joliet wrote: > Hi, > > I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, > but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a > btrfs RAID10 array, but needed to be replaced (with "btrfs replace"). (In > the meanti

[gentoo-user] crowdunding

2015-07-12 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hello everyone. My question is not about gentoo, sorry! I wanted to know what is your idea about crowdfunding to provide a well design fire backbone ? Do you think people will accept the idea?

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > > My question is how precisely the disks should be cleared. From various > sources > I know that overwriting them with random data a few times is enough to render > old versions of data unreadable. I'm guessing 3 times ought to be enough, bu

[gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Hi, I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a btrfs RAID10 array, but needed to be replaced (with "btrfs replace"). (In the meantime I converted the array to RAID1 with only two drives.) My q