Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:43:13 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: > > On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: > --->8 > > > Have a look here for more details and warnings: > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade > > Many thank

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread Alex Brandt
On Friday, May 29, 2015 18:12:52 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > What I want is, that fcron executes a script every 14 days. It does > not matter, when to execute the script, since I cannot guarantee that > my PC is running exactly at that time. I've got a similar cron I run for backups (daily rather

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2015 16:42:37 + (UTC), James wrote: > *cron* are limited. You need advanced logic constructs to achieve what > you want. Bash is most likely your easiest path. If you're using systemd, timer units would do what you want. They are more complex to set up than cron, but far more f

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 18:56 GMT+03:00 : > On 30/05/15 16:56, gevisz wrote: >> >> 2015-05-30 15:02 GMT+03:00 gevisz : >>> >>> >>> So, I can update the system and see if the unneeded >>> gettext package will be emerged again. :-) >> >> >> Yes, it was merged back. Why >> >> ... to keep an unneeded dependency in

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 18:54 GMT+03:00 Peter Humphrey : > On Saturday 30 May 2015 13:57:34 gevisz wrote: >> 2015-05-30 12:32 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet : >> > Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 >> > schrieb gevisz : >> > [...] >> > (Note: the word you are looking for is "cache".) >> >> So, it is from French. > > [O

[gentoo-user] Re: Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > On 29/05/2015 18:12, Meino.Cramer gmx.de wrote: > > I am makeing definetly something very wrong here...but I the logic > > seems to prevent me to do the rigth ting... *cron* are limited. You need advanced logic constructs to achieve what you want. Bash is mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread rhannek
On 30/05/15 16:56, gevisz wrote: 2015-05-30 15:02 GMT+03:00 gevisz : So, I can update the system and see if the unneeded gettext package will be emerged again. :-) Yes, it was merged back. Why ... to keep an unneeded dependency in the portage tree? Because some package needs gettext. You

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 13:57:34 gevisz wrote: > 2015-05-30 12:32 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet : > > Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 > > schrieb gevisz : > > [...] > > (Note: the word you are looking for is "cache".) > > So, it is from French. [OT] Yes, along with a vast number of other common words

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: > On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: --->8 > Have a look here for more details and warnings: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade Many thanks Mick - that's very helpful. > I expect that sooner or later bitrot wil

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 15:02 GMT+03:00 gevisz : > > So, I can update the system and see if the unneeded > gettext package will be emerged again. :-) Yes, it was merged back. Why ... to keep an unneeded dependency in the portage tree?

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 30 May 2015 14:59:12 +0300 schrieb gevisz : > 2015-05-30 14:31 GMT+03:00 : > > On 30/05/15 14:07, gevisz wrote: [...] > > No. It's about localizing web pages with gettext. gettext is on the > > server side. The server sets a locale for the session and then localizes > > your page accordin

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 14:36 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet : > Am Sat, 30 May 2015 13:57:34 +0300 > schrieb gevisz : > >> > This document shows how websites can localise their content: >> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web_Localizability/Creating_localizable_web_applications. >> >> Thank you for the link.

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 14:31 GMT+03:00 : > On 30/05/15 14:07, gevisz wrote: >> >> I do not know how to do that. > > Go to [1], scroll to the bottom. There should be some settings for yt > language. > >> Yes, but according to the link, provided by Marc, it contains gettext >> instruction for its translation ac

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 May 2015 00:20:51 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Other than the odd bug here and there I was perfectly happy with KDE3 and > > Kmail1 (still using with kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.4.11.1-r1). > > I wonder if there's a way to go back to KMail-1 and import all my e-mails > from KMail-2 archive

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 30 May 2015 13:57:34 +0300 schrieb gevisz : > > This document shows how websites can localise their content: > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web_Localizability/Creating_localizable_web_applications. > > > > Thank you for the link. I will look at it in more detail later, bu

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread rhannek
On 30/05/15 14:07, gevisz wrote: I do not know how to do that. Go to [1], scroll to the bottom. There should be some settings for yt language. Yes, but according to the link, provided by Marc, it contains gettext instruction for its translation according to the locale set on the local compute

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 13:57 GMT+03:00 gevisz : >> I strongly suspect that the application doing the translating doesn't >> even use gettext. > > May be, but I cannot think of a better explanation. > >> Besides which, I'm surprised you're not getting crashes from >> applications not finding the gettext librar

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 13:02 GMT+03:00 : > On 30/05/15 11:36, gevisz wrote: >> >> P.S. As I have already described it earlier, this issue with the Firefox >> menu is only related to the menu I get while right-clicking on >> a youtube video in Firefox. (All the other menus is in English, >> as

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-30 12:32 GMT+03:00 Marc Joliet : > Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 > schrieb gevisz : > > [...] >> As I still had a suspicion that those non-English entries in the Firefox >> menu remain because of some cash issues, I have just launched another >> instance of the Firefox browser using a

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread rhannek
On 30/05/15 11:36, gevisz wrote: P.S. As I have already described it earlier, this issue with the Firefox menu is only related to the menu I get while right-clicking on a youtube video in Firefox. (All the other menus is in English, as desired.) Have you checked the language se

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 09:53:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Akonadi was supposed to be a once-size-fits-all central store of all pim > info (contacts, addresses, mails and all metadata about that) which any > and all apps could use. > > The vision was that an enormous awesome ecosystem all buying int

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 30 May 2015 11:36:28 +0300 schrieb gevisz : [...] > As I still had a suspicion that those non-Eglish entries in the Firefox > menu remain because of some cash issues, I have just launched another > instance of the Firefox browser using a separate profile. > > Well, in a separate profile,

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2015 00:20:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > He was talking about tying the e-mail client to a database, not about > the KDE4 desktop, and I've protested at the same thing more than > once, sometimes in vigorous terms. Made no difference of course, but > then I'm just an insufficien

Re: [gentoo-user] Unwelcomed non-native language support

2015-05-30 Thread gevisz
2015-05-29 23:33 GMT+03:00 gevisz : > 2015-05-29 21:45 GMT+03:00 gevisz : >> 2015-05-29 19:36 GMT+03:00 Mick : >>> On Friday 29 May 2015 17:20:13 gevisz wrote: 2015-05-29 17:46 GMT+03:00 Mick : >>> > Do you get anything unexpected when you run 'locale'? Nothing. (Thank you for y

Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulties to acchieve a certain time period with fcron

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2015 18:12, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > probably I have made a knot into my brain... > > What I want is, that fcron executes a script every 14 days. It does > not matter, when to execute the script, since I cannot guarantee that > my PC is running exactly at that time. > > I tr

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2015 17:54, Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with me

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the definition of a gentoo "binary" package?

2015-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2015 18:48:55 -0700 walt wrote: >> >> The libreoffice-bin package wanted to drag in dozens of other non-binary >> gentoo packages before it would install itself, and even caused a blocker >> between two different versions o

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the definition of a gentoo "binary" package?

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/05/2015 03:48, walt wrote: > gentoo package have been snipped to eliminate uncouth language> > > I think of a gentoo "binary" package (e.g. oracle-jdk-bin) as an ebuild > that fetches a file from somewhere, then merely unpacks that file and > sticks the results in /opt/. > > My experience