Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Stroller
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0: > >USE="bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags >-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio >(-selinux) -syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:03:30 PM »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:49:27 + > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23:53AM -0500, »Q« wrote: > > > > Alan, I think Firefox relies on gstreamer for at least some of its > > > HTML5 playback capability, so USE="-gstreamer"

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > >> More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize >> that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better. > > If they "suck", they're not worth issuing, are they ? > I'm not willing to become a dev, so I'll never

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:28:47 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize > > that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them > > better. > > If they "suck", they're not worth issuing, are they ? Of course they are, obtuse err

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 05:48 PM, Mick wrote: > > When you say macro, is this something the webapp -U will apply, or is this > some of your own brew of scripts and if so where do you apply it? > Either www-apache/mod_macro with apache-2.2, or the built-in version with apache-2.4: http://httpd.apache.

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Apr 2015 18:14:32 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 04/26/2015 04:04 AM, Mick wrote: > > Hmm ... I am probably affected by this change too. Running find for > > '*.php.*' et al, comes up with a tonne of files like this: > > > > /var/www/My_Website_Name/htdocs/modules/simpletest/tests/upgr

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Philip Webb
150426 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote: >> Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong, >> (2) what their choices are, (3) how to resolve the problem. > The process goes something like this: > 1. Become frustrated with the obtuse portage output

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread james
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Yes, I agree it needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is > happening. One simple fix is this blockage of packages that do not need to be blocked. When I wait more than 5 or 6 da

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 150426 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch. >> I t needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening. > > +1 : Portage nee

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Grant
>> I read about this vulnerability in the >> 2015-04-06-apache-addhandler-addtype Gentoo news item. I don't think >> I'm using any functionality that could expose me to the problem but >> I'd like to be able to say so for sure. Does the fact that I'm >> up-to-date with GLSAs, I don't have PHP5 in

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Philip Webb
150426 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch. > I t needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening. +1 : Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong,

[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:49:27 + Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23:53AM -0500, »Q« wrote: > > Alan, I think Firefox relies on gstreamer for at least some of its > > HTML5 playback capability, so USE="-gstreamer" may be at the root of > > the issue. On the YouTube HTML5 pa

Re: [gentoo-user] how to update spamassassin with sa-update

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 10:55 AM, Alex Brandt wrote: > On Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:47:46 lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> installation notes for spamassassin say you need to do the rule updates >> yourself by running 'sa-update'. >> >> Now I'd do that with a crontab entry, and I don't want to add it to >> root's cro

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Running without -v doesn't help. I almost never use -v with emerge, > > it's output is verbose enough as it is and burying useful messages in > > even more trivial, not-for-users output makes decoding it even harder. > > > > emerge real

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 04:04 AM, Mick wrote: > > Hmm ... I am probably affected by this change too. Running find for > '*.php.*' > et al, comes up with a tonne of files like this: > > /var/www/My_Website_Name/htdocs/modules/simpletest/tests/upgrade/drupal-7.filled.minimal.database.php.gz > > If I were

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23:53AM -0500, »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:55:10 -0700 > walt wrote: > > On 04/26/2015 07:49 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hello, Gentoo. > > > When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film > > > clips embedded in it. When I attempt to

[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:55:10 -0700 walt wrote: > On 04/26/2015 07:49 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > > > When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film > > clips embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting, > > more and more frequently, the e

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread walt
On 04/26/2015 06:49 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I can't figure why the portage devs persist with the > current obtuse method. I suspect that they do what they do because they're overworked and underpaid -- exactly like all the rest of us :) I suspect also that the problem with portage has already

[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread walt
On 04/26/2015 07:49 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips > embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting, more and > more frequently, the error message (from You Tube): > > "Your browser does not

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 April 2015 15:49:19 Alan McKinnon wrote: > I disagree. emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from > scratch. Right now it arrives at the conclusion (the top) and dumps it's > data tree bottom-up, apparently stopping halfway and never getting to > output what the top is.

Re: [gentoo-user] how to update spamassassin with sa-update

2015-04-26 Thread Alex Brandt
On Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:47:46 lee wrote: > Hi, > > installation notes for spamassassin say you need to do the rule updates > yourself by running 'sa-update'. > > Now I'd do that with a crontab entry, and I don't want to add it to > root's crontab. As what user should I run it, and where do

[gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo. When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting, more and more frequently, the error message (from You Tube): "Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/26/2015 12:38 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > There is nothing to get out of, and there is no circular dep. I didn't mean a true circular dep, more like you want this and it wants that, repeat. :-) Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2015 10:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo, installed) >> >> This means that you have xorg-server-1.12.4-r4 installed which depends >> on libXfont with this limitation: > >> You only g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Martin Vaeth [15-04-26 15:28]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > But the same script states: > > > > [I] x11-base/xorg-server > > Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) > > The [m] means that you masked newer versions of xorg-server locally. > If you remove that loca

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > But the same script states: > > [I] x11-base/xorg-server > Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) The [m] means that you masked newer versions of xorg-server locally. If you remove that local mask, the blockers should be gone. Do you have

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:49:09 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> nvidia legacy drivers? >> In the latter case you are doomed... >> I also had to throw out recently an nvidia card because of this. > > Was nouveau not an option. No. It seems, nouvau is lost without support

[gentoo-user] how to update spamassassin with sa-update

2015-04-26 Thread lee
Hi, installation notes for spamassassin say you need to do the rule updates yourself by running 'sa-update'. Now I'd do that with a crontab entry, and I don't want to add it to root's crontab. As what user should I run it, and where do I put the crontab entry for it? -- Again we must be afrai

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Alan McKinnon [15-04-26 13:36]: > On 26/04/2015 09:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > > > thanks for your help! Good to know, that's not totally me not > > understanding, what's going on on my machine...but there are also the > > enigmatic words of Master Emerge, which blows fog int

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2015 09:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi Alan, > > thanks for your help! Good to know, that's not totally me not > understanding, what's going on on my machine...but there are also the > enigmatic words of Master Emerge, which blows fog into my pain > suffering brain... ;))) > > For

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:49:09 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > Have you masked newer xorg-server or are you using drivers which > require this like e.g. ancient (now masked in portage) > nvidia legacy drivers? > In the latter case you are doomed... > I also had to throw out recently an nvidia car

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo, installed) > > This means that you have xorg-server-1.12.4-r4 installed which depends > on libXfont with this limitation: > You only get that sort of emerge output when portage is force

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf is missing

2015-04-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Apr 2015 08:50:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 25/04/2015 11:51, Mick wrote: > > Are we meant to create the above file manually? > > > > This box is running sys-apps/portage-2.2.18 but I was surprised to see > > that it doesn't have a gentoo.conf file. > > Read the latest news item I d

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Apr 2015 01:51:37 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 04/25/2015 05:23 PM, Grant wrote: > > I read about this vulnerability in the > > 2015-04-06-apache-addhandler-addtype Gentoo news item. I don't think > > I'm using any functionality that could expose me to the problem but > > I'd like to

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Alan McKinnon [15-04-26 09:44]: > On 25/04/2015 18:07, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > A novice asks the master Emerge: > > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?" > > > > Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke: > > > > WARNING: One or more updates/rebui

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf is missing

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/04/2015 11:51, Mick wrote: > Are we meant to create the above file manually? > > This box is running sys-apps/portage-2.2.18 but I was surprised to see that > it > doesn't have a gentoo.conf file. > Read the latest news item -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2015 04:06, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Daniel Frey [15-04-26 03:12]: >> On 04/25/2015 09:07 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> A novice asks the master Emerge: >>> "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?" >>> >>> Master Emerge moved a little bit and

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/04/2015 18:07, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > A novice asks the master Emerge: > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?" > > Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke: > > WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency > confli

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Martin Vaeth [15-04-26 08:56]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > A novice asks the master Emerge: > > "Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo?" > > Did the novice ask the correct question about the life, the world, > and everything? Your mantra should be > emerge -NaDu @wo

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-5.0 ?

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Now that 5.1 is in Portage (masked), you should keep in mind that > emerging it will result in the 5.1 libraries being used, even if you > keep 4.9 (or 4.8) as the default compiler. If you should really get problems with this, you can manually remove the corresponding