Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 20/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile may >>just >> > be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for example, using >> > eselect... >> > >> > Somethin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.02.2014 12:38, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: > The way systemd services handle network whatever "network manager" you > enable is the last thing preventing me from using systemd on servers. > Seting up manual advanced setups on systemd looks crappy (if even > possible with the provided tools) co

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Feb 25, 2014 10:40 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > [snip] > > > The way systemd services handle network whatever "network manager" you > > enable is the last thing preventing me from using systemd on servers. > > Seting up manua

[gentoo-user] Largest Thread Ever

2014-02-25 Thread john
What is the largest thread of emails ever gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org The debian just voted.. could possibly be a winner? Or can anyone else remember back into the depths of time. Long live Gentoo that's all I can say. Intelligent, well argued (but not always agreeing) emails chains

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vixie cron: PAM ERROR

2014-02-25 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-02-25, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > On a newly installed system, I'm getting error messages from vixie cron > > about PAM authentication errors: > > > > Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication > failure) >

[gentoo-user] Re: vixie cron: PAM ERROR

2014-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-02-25, Grant Edwards wrote: > On a newly installed system, I'm getting error messages from vixie cron > about PAM authentication errors: > > Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) > Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) FAILED to authorize user

Re: [gentoo-user] vixie cron: PAM ERROR

2014-02-25 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On a newly installed system, I'm getting error messages from vixie cron > about PAM authentication errors: > > Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication > failure) > Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) FAILED

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:38 AM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: [snip] > The way systemd services handle network whatever "network manager" you > enable is the last thing preventing me from using systemd on servers. > Seting up manual advanced setups on systemd looks crappy (if even > possible with the

Re: [gentoo-user] technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:09 AM, thegeezer wrote: [snip] > using openrc if i reboot a system that requires fsck on /mnt/data it > will do an fsck. but not log anything anywhere about the result, which > is why i put this as a pro. Oh, I see; I hadn't understood this. > does systemd have config

Re: Gentoo+Gnome requires systemd, but Gnome itself does not? Why? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 25/02/2014 14:40, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2014-02-24 4:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> In Gentoo you need systemd, but that's a decision from the Gentoo >>> maintainers. They do the job, they make the choices. >> >> Interesting. Now

[gentoo-user] vixie cron: PAM ERROR

2014-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On a newly installed system, I'm getting error messages from vixie cron about PAM authentication errors: Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) PAM ERROR (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:52:01 alpha crond[23085]: (root) FAILED to authorize user with PAM (Authentication failure) Feb 25 09:53

Re: Gentoo+Gnome requires systemd, but Gnome itself does not? Why? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/02/2014 14:40, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-02-24 4:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> In Gentoo you need systemd, but that's a decision from the Gentoo >> maintainers. They do the job, they make the choices. > > Interesting. Now I have to spin off a new thread as to why this decision > was

Gentoo+Gnome requires systemd, but Gnome itself does not? Why? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-24 4:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: In Gentoo you need systemd, but that's a decision from the Gentoo maintainers. They do the job, they make the choices. Interesting. Now I have to spin off a new thread as to why this decision was made if it isn't forced by GNOME itself...

[gentoo-user] Re: technical review of systemd

2014-02-25 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 23/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> networkd (again, netctl is the command-line front-end) is not for > >> enterprise networks; on the contrary, is for the trivial cases. For > >> example, in a little web server I administer I have: > >> > >> $ cat /etc/systemd/system/network.service > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 20/02/14, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile may >just > > be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for example, using > > eselect... > > > > Something like: > > > > # eselect init list > > Available init systems: > >