On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:14 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez ValdÃ
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
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> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/269586
> [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/269628
Also, check [3], since the solution on [2] was unnecessarily complex.
Regards.
[3] http://comments.gm
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Facundo Curti wrote:
> Hi all. I'm new in the list, this is my third message :)
> First at all, I need to say sorry if my english is not perfect. I speak
> spanish. I post here because gentoo-user-es it's middle dead, and it's a
> great chance to practice my engli
Hi all. I'm new in the list, this is my third message :)
First at all, I need to say sorry if my english is not perfect. I speak
spanish. I post here because gentoo-user-es it's middle dead, and it's a
great chance to practice my english :) Now, the problem.
I'm going to get a new PC with a disc S
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>>> Even self-destructive behavior is in the vast majority of
>>> cases engaged in with the *intention* of profit. Best example I
>>> can think of would be a drug addict/alcoholic. When they
>>> use/drink, they 'profit' in that the feel better (albei
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael Higgins wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:40:46 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> But I'm going to save you some bucks: there is nothing fishy.
>>
>> Carry on with the wires on the tin hat.
>>
>> Regards.
>
> Perfect. So that nails that bugab
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sebastian Beßler
wrote:
> On 21.02.2014 08:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>
>> So all talks about systemd being modular are nothing more than
>> nonsense. Guess what will happen on segfault in libsystemd.so?
>> Segfaults in pid 1 are so nice to bear...
>
> And now wit
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 2:14 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>> On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> [ snip ]
>>
Of course the larger a project
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:35:39 +
hasufell wrote:
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> Tanstaafl:
> > On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell wrote:
> >> Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common
> >> thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no
>
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:56:31 -0500
Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500
> > Tanstaafl wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >>> If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
> >>> different w
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:08:43 -0600 Daniel Campbell wrote:
>> It's marginally clever, but so clearly obvious at the same time. It's
>> sad (to me) that the community didn't see it coming. Those who did have
>> been written off as conspiracy
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:32:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
> Ok, so, since it really is so simple, wouldn't it be easier to
> implement this as an eselect module then, as opposed to creating a
> bunch of separate profiles?
profiles handle USE flags, eselect does not. Of course, you can use
eselect to c
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:14:00 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> I recently needed to unmerge Netbeans and KDE from a machine. So
> removed the top-level packages of those, and then ran:
>
>emerge -a --depclean --jobs 20
>
> However, "--jobs" is being ignored. So I'm sitting there, watching
>
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 19:40:46 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
[...]
> But I'm going to save you some bucks: there is nothing fishy.
>
> Carry on with the wires on the tin hat.
>
> Regards.
Perfect. So that nails that bugaboo as well.
All is good, then, absolutely nothing to see here.
Thanks
On 21.02.2014 08:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> So all talks about systemd being modular are nothing more than
> nonsense. Guess what will happen on segfault in libsystemd.so?
> Segfaults in pid 1 are so nice to bear...
And now with 209 there is a new systemd-networkd deamon that is started
by def
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
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> If systemd truly is, as you say "taking over and devouring the linux world"
Mark, although I agree with much of your mail (but not all), I don't
think is fair how you are treating Tanstaafl; he never said that.
Regards.
--
C
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
(When I say "I'm done", I mean it; I'm making an exception to explain
a mistake you made).
> Firstly, you don't control whether or not I send an e-mail.
No, I don't; I never said that. This is a public non-moderated mailing
list; anyone ca
On Thu, February 20, 2014 16:16, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 20/02/2014 11:16, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>>
>>
>> 20.02.2014 09:24, Canek Peláez Valdés пиÑеÑ:
>>> [ snip ]
but I do not see the point, beyond as a nice gimmick.
>>>
>>> Well, I *do* see a point. Many points, actually. You want
I'm looking for an application
to create flashcards for study.
It'd be great to run the creation software
on a gentoo workstation and then be able to download
the flash cards by category to either an Iphone
or an Android device...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flashcardmac
On Fri, February 21, 2014 18:33, thegeezer wrote:
> On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> .. setting systemd to log to syslog to make transitions smoother (as
> logs are lost on reboot by default)
Eeerh, logs are lost on reboot?
I only had (it died last weekend) one (yes, ONE) machine that
On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:50 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Tue, February 18, 2014 15:37, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:54 AM, J. Roeleveld
>>> wrote:
>> Same question applies, can I disable these c
On Thu, February 20, 2014 06:34, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On Tue, February 18, 2014 18:12, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> [ snip ]
>
>>> Of course the larger a project is the *potential* number of bugs
>>> increases, but so what?
On 2014-02-21 2:35 PM, hasufell wrote:
Tanstaafl:
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell wrote:
Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common
thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no
emotional, financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you
have never met such
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Tanstaafl:
> On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell wrote:
>> Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common
>> thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no
>> emotional, financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you
>>
On 2014-02-21 12:33 PM, thegeezer wrote:
On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile
may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for
example, using eselect...
Something like:
# eselect init list
Available init s
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell wrote:
Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common thing in
this world. It can even be intentional, causing no emotional,
financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you have never met
such a person or have never been in such an environment.
On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>
>
> Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile
> may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for
> example, using eselect...
>
> Something like:
>
> # eselect init list
> Available init systems:
> [1] OpenRC *
>
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Tanstaafl:
> On 2014-02-21 11:23 AM, hasufell wrote:
>>> Even someone who volunteers in the local soup kitchen feeding
>>> the homeless is doing so under the profit motive. The things
>>> is, the 'profit' involved (may) only involve(s) a 'warm fuzzy
On 2014-02-21 11:23 AM, hasufell wrote:
Even someone who volunteers in the local soup kitchen feeding the
homeless is doing so under the profit motive. The things is, the
'profit' involved (may) only involve(s) a 'warm fuzzy good
feeling'.
If you read my previous words, I said it wasn't always
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:32:41 +0100
András Csányi wrote:
> I bought a Lenovo y510p stuff which has two video cards, an Intel 4th
> generation stuff and a NVIDIA GF GT750M SLI. When I start the
>
> X -configure
>
> the log says that it has not found usable driver, however in my
> make.conf
>
> V
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Tanstaafl:
> On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500 Tanstaafl
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell
>>> wrote:
If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on
two differ
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:02:31 -0500
Tanstaafl wrote:
> As long as OpenRC is the default init system in Gentoo, it is on
> those who want something *other* than OpenRC (ie, systemd) to do the
> work of implementing it.
It's the job of whoever wants any init system to work to make it work,
isn't it
On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500
Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
different wavelengths.
I didn't say that. I said that *everyone* operates under the profi
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500
Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
> > different wavelengths.
>
> I didn't say that. I said that *everyone* operates under the profit
> motive.
And that is simpl
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:02:31 -0500
Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl
> > wrote:
> >> Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and
> >> re-read your 'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus t
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:14:00 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras
wrote:
> I recently needed to unmerge Netbeans and KDE from a machine. So
> removed the top-level packages of those, and then ran:
>
>emerge -a --depclean --jobs 20
>
> However, "--jobs" is being ignored. So I'm sitting there, watching
>
On 2014-02-21 9:28 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
It is one thing entirely to say you don't like some software, and
another thing entirely to obligate everyone else in the world to
never depend on it.
All myself and others have been insisting on is that systemd proponents
be prevented from unil
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate
profile may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like,
for example, using eselect...
Something like:
# eselect init list
Thanks, gonna try it
Francisco
2014-02-21 10:36 GMT-03:00 thegeezer :
> On 02/21/2014 01:13 PM, Francisco Ares wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to create a bootable flash stick, preferably using already
> > working Gentoo system (or at least most of it), which was tailored for
> > an embedded syst
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl
>> wrote:
>>> So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very good
>>> job of patiently spelling out the advantages of syste
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Alan McKinnon:
> On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real
>>> world: one have non-standard binaries, no
I recently needed to unmerge Netbeans and KDE from a machine. So removed
the top-level packages of those, and then ran:
emerge -a --depclean --jobs 20
However, "--jobs" is being ignored. So I'm sitting there, watching
hundreds of packages being unmerged one by one, taking a long time :-/
I
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two
different wavelengths.
I didn't say that. I said that *everyone* operates under the profit motive.
On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and re-read your
'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why I
referred to it as a 'rant'), while I agree with mos
On 02/21/2014 07:43 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-21 8:34 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>> On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF,
however,
he worked for Novell, anot
On 2014-02-20 8:03 PM, Facundo Curti wrote:
Fsacundo impolitely omitted attribution, so I have to add it back...
> I said:
That is such total FUD I just can't even say anything else about it
without using some unsavory words.
You no need to be disrespectfull...
How was my comment disrespe
On 2014-02-20 7:08 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
By striking the weakest part of the stack (sysv probably*did*
need a good replacement, but not one as ambitious as systemd) and
digging down into the kernel level (kdbus), Red Hat devs will now have a
very influential role in the FOSS world. This wil
On 2014-02-21 8:34 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however,
he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux company.
Good god, is that the best y
On 02/21/2014 01:13 PM, Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to create a bootable flash stick, preferably using already
> working Gentoo system (or at least most of it), which was tailored for
> an embedded system.
>
> Already googled around, but I would like to know if anyone has already
> succe
Gentoo minimal and unetbootin:
http://programminglinuxblog.blogspot.ca/2011/02/gentoo-on-usb-stick.html#!/2011/02/gentoo-on-usb-stick.html
On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
>> Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however,
>> he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux company.
>
> Good god, is that the best you can do?
>
> What is your aversion to
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however,
he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux company.
Good god, is that the best you can do?
What is your aversion to 'profit', anyway? You do realize that
*everyone* oper
Hi,
I need to create a bootable flash stick, preferably using already working
Gentoo system (or at least most of it), which was tailored for an embedded
system.
Already googled around, but I would like to know if anyone has already
succeeded on this.
Thanks
Francisco
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 22:59:59 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 20/02/2014 22:41, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> >
> >> And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world:
> >> one have non-standard binaries, not avail
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:41:03 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 08:52:07PM +0400, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>
> > And this point is one of the highest security benefits in real world:
> > one have non-standard binaries, not available in the wild. Most
> > exploits will fail on s
On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:32:41 +0100, András Csányi wrote:
> VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv intel nouveau vga"
Pick one of nvidia, nv or nouveau, preferably not nv. You should also add
vesa to the list, which gets most cards working in a basic way.
--
Neil Bothwick
When you choke a smurf, what color do
21.02.2014 12:48, Alan McKinnon пишет:
On 21/02/2014 09:03, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
Your idea instantly fails as the rc-service author has no idea of what
you defined ${SERVICE} to be and no way to determine what it is now.
Yes, the rc-service author does not have any idea because he is not
re
Hans de Graaff gentoo.org> writes:
> Because we haven't gotten around to that yet. Also note that only a few
> packages currently have ruby21 support, so eselecting it right now is not
> very useful yet.
> We should be updating the ruby eselect module in the next week or so.
Any news on this?
Hi All,
I bought a Lenovo y510p stuff which has two video cards, an Intel 4th
generation stuff and a NVIDIA GF GT750M SLI. When I start the
X -configure
the log says that it has not found usable driver, however in my make.conf
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv intel nouveau vga"
The system is base system
On 21/02/2014 09:03, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
>> Your idea instantly fails as the rc-service author has no idea of what
>> you defined ${SERVICE} to be and no way to determine what it is now.
>
> Yes, the rc-service author does not have any idea because he is not
> requested to.
> ${SERVICE} obviou
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On 02/19/14 14:37, Gevisz wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:12 +0400
> the wrote:
>
> On 02/18/14 17:56, Gevisz wrote:
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:30:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés
wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Gevisz
>>>
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