Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread joost
Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >>> I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch >>> installation. >> >> Why? If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use >> defaul

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:54:30PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/10/2013 20:48, Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > >> Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: > >> > >> SYNC="rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage" > >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

2013-10-02 Thread Carlos Sura
This did not worked out: USE="suid" emerge -pv --update --changed-use world it did not showed anything to emerge. On 1 October 2013 02:29, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:30:51AM -0600, Carlos Sura wrote > > Hello Mates, > > > > I finally thought that I got this working, so no

[gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/30/2013 06:22 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:01:27 +0200, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > >>> mount /usr -o remount,ro mkdir /newusr rsync -a /usr/ /new/usr/ Comment out >>> /usr line in >>> /etc/fstab mv /usr /oldusr mv /n

Re: [gentoo-user] Sloppy sterm screen update over ssh

2013-10-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:33:19AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I've recently noticed when ssh'ing into another machine that the xterm > > display doesn't fully update. I.e. there are "holes" where an app > > updates over a previous screen.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 20:48, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: >> >> SYNC="rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage" >> >> >> I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more >> traff

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: >>> Rsync mirrors don't grow on trees, man. People pay good money to >>> provide that service to us. You should seriously be embarrassed to >>> have post

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 2:24 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, thanks much guys... guess I'll go with Alans layout as it makes the most sense to me: /var/portage /var/distfiles /var/packages Actually, I think I like: /var/portage/tree /var/portage/distfiles /var/portage/packages better... :)

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Lee
Usually this indicates a lack of kernel support. I would check kernel .config or menuconfig to ensure all your Broadcom support has been enabled. if you know which modules are involved you can use modprobe to check them out (see if they're loaded or unavailable or whatever ). Good luck!

[gentoo-user] >>> Installing (154 of 154) sys-apps/usbutils-006-r1

2013-10-02 Thread Richard Gration
This emerge just finished on a box that hasn't been booted in 4 months, let alone updated. I moved from profile 10.0 to 13.0. Take a bow, Gentoo devs :-) Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe" Do you agree with me on these CFLAGS ? AMD Opteron 6344 ... And I assume I should rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_MK8 ? Thanks, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 20:51, schrieb Bruce Hill: > rm kerninst > less /usr/src/linux/README (proper instructions) > > wash, rinse, repeat :-) ;-) ... I take this as an option ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-10-02 Thread Grant
> I see what you desire now - essentially you want to clone your laptop > (or big chunks of it) over to your other workstations. I've been working on this and I think I have a good and simple plan. My laptop roams around with me and is the "master" system. The office router is the "subma

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 06:47:21PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Rather simple issue: > > I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got > listed first in grub.conf. > > kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various > recompilings never cha

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: > > SYNC="rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage" > > > I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more > traffic out of our network going international. Th

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 11:31 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Because they have no place in the portage tree. The portage tree contains thousands of small files, but remains largely the same size. On the other hand $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR contain files that are not controlled by portage and grow continually without

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: >> Rsync mirrors don't grow on trees, man. People pay good money to >> provide that service to us. You should seriously be embarrassed to >> have posted this. > > Really? > > > Then you can all use mi

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 02.10.2013 14:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 02.10.2013 14:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> >>> In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I >>> expected way more *bang* for the bucks ... > > And our n

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 19:11, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > the inverted sort by version will be: > > vmlinuz-blah > vmlinuz-3.10 > vmlinuz-3.9 > vmlinuz-3.8 > > and the kernel with an alphanumeric "version" will be always be the default. Exactly what I saw, yes. No complaints ... ok with me, I should

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 02.10.2013 18:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar: >> >>> Run "modinfo kvm kvm-amd" and check for discrepancies between the >>> details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field.

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Kerin Millar
On 02/10/2013 17:47, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 02.10.2013 18:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar: Run "modinfo kvm kvm-amd" and check for discrepancies between the details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field. [...] I would sugges

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/29/13 15:03, Greg Woodbury wrote: > On 09/29/2013 06:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL? >> >> They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone >> to break. >> > Except that sys

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 18:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar: > >> Run "modinfo kvm kvm-amd" and check for discrepancies between the >> details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field. > > [...] > >> I would suggest "make mrproper" to clean the sourc

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 17:47:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I'm still waiting to hear why Neil doesn't move packages and distfiles > > there... sounded like he had a good reason... > He's English, and old(-ish) > > My money says he forgot. Misremembered actually. In fact, I replied when I saw

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:31:04 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote: > tombook tom # lspci -k -s 04:00.0 > 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n > Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) > Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047 > Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge > > I use

Re: [gentoo-user] Sloppy sterm screen update over ssh

2013-10-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > I've recently noticed when ssh'ing into another machine that the xterm > display doesn't fully update. I.e. there are "holes" where an app > updates over a previous screen. I've tried Google, but any mention of > "screen" is interpreted as

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Tomáš Hájek
tombook tom # lspci -k -s 04:00.0 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047 Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge I use brcmsmac built in, not as module. How do I make it use brcmsmac inst

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar: > Run "modinfo kvm kvm-amd" and check for discrepancies between the > details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field. [...] > I would suggest "make mrproper" to clean the source tree. Ensure that > the .config has been backed up because it

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> I am following vanilla-sources in all my machines, which is what >> people like Greg Kroah-Hartman actually recommends [1][2]. Since they >> are now never stabilized [3], this means t

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:53, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-02 8:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along. > > I thought I was wrong once, but then discovered that I was mistaken... ;) > >> You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to >> a long-sta

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:31:27 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote: > I already have linux-firmware in my system, just put brcmsmac in my > kernel (was set to =n), and still have same result tough. > Only difference is that rfkill list all now see wifi card and says that > it is not blocked (before it could not

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> I hate getting older. lol > > > >It's a lot better than the alternative... > What is wrong with getting younger? That's an opposite, not an alternative -- Neil Bothwick For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:23:07 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > /var makes sense to me, it's where I put the tree (but not packages or > > distfiles). > > Why not these? Because they have no place in the portage tree. The portage tree contains thousands of small files, but remains largely the same si

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > > > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html > > Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of th

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well. I am wait

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Kerin Millar
On 02/10/2013 13:27, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I try to set up KVM/QEMU on that new and shiny AMD server 24 cores of Opteron: processor : 23 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 21 model : 2 model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6344 nice I want gentoo-sou

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Tomáš Hájek
dmesg says only: tom@tombook ~ $ dmesg | grep -i firmware [0.099927] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored I already have linux-firmware in my system, just put brcmsmac in my kernel (was set to =n), and still have same result tough. Only difference is that rfkill list all now s

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-02 8:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along. I thought I was wrong once, but then discovered that I was mistaken... ;) You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to a long-standing bug. I'm still waiting to hear why Neil doe

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 02.10.2013 14:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I >> expected way more *bang* for the bucks ... And our new and ambitious friend also comes along ;-) systemd-tmpfil

Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I > expected way more *bang* for the bucks ... > > still unsure if that clocksource-topic might be relevant or if my kernel > config is somehow stupid. Additional (for the

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:04:16 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch installation. >> >>> Why? >> >> While I'm not sure why it matters to you, > > Just curious. > >> it is because I ha

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:04, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-01 2:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch >>> installation. > >> Why? > > While I'm not sure why it matters to you, it is beca

[gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I try to set up KVM/QEMU on that new and shiny AMD server 24 cores of Opteron: processor : 23 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 21 model : 2 model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6344 nice I want gentoo-sources-3.10.7 (stable and long term supported) or 3.1

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:27 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I hate getting older. lol > >It's a lot better than the alternative... > > >-- >Neil Bothwick > >A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. What is wrong with getting younger? -- Sent from my Android device wi

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-01 7:41 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: /var makes sense to me, it's where I put the tree (but not packages or distfiles). Why not these?

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-02 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10/02/2013 09:06:42 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: >> > Hi, >> > >> > in "good" tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers >> > again (as

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:04:16 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch > >> installation. > > > Why? > > While I'm not sure why it matters to you, Just curious. > it is because I have a policy > that I never change the defaults for an

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-01 2:48 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch installation. Why? While I'm not sure why it matters to you, it is because I have a policy that I never change the defaults

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Joakim Gebart
2013/10/2 Tomáš Hájek : > Hi guys! > For me this is first time installing gentoo on my own and right now I'm > really out of ideas. > > My problem is: > > tombook tom # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start > net.wlan0 | * Bringing up interface wlan0 > net.wlan0 | * ERROR: interface wlan0 does

Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > I am following vanilla-sources in all my machines, which is what > people like Greg Kroah-Hartman actually recommends [1][2]. Since they > are now never stabilized [3], this means that I need to update them > pretty regularly to keep them safe. >

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/10/2 Tomáš Hájek : > Hi guys! > For me this is first time installing gentoo on my own and right now I'm > really out of ideas. > > My problem is: > > tombook tom # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start > net.wlan0 | * Bringing up interface wlan0 > net.wlan0 | * ERROR: interface wlan0 does

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:19:58 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote: > You can see that my wifi interface does not come up and ifconfig don't > know about it either. > 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n > Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) > Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:27 -0500, Dale wrote: > I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... -- Neil Bothwick A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable

2013-10-02 Thread Thanasis
Set PORTDIR for backward compatibility with various tools like: euse - bug #474574 euses and ufed - bug #478318 PORTDIR="/usr/portage"

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: >> > Hi, >> > >> > in "good" tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers >> > again (as always in the past). >> > Does anybody know about

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-02 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > Hi, > > in "good" tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers > again (as always in the past). > Does anybody know about a patch to make > x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy > compile wi