Re: [gentoo-user] look for a file type + sort

2013-09-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.09.2013 06:04, schrieb Mark David Dumlao: > > On Sep 13, 2013 9:53 PM, "Yuri K. Shatroff" > wrote: >> >> On 13.09.2013 17:43, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff > wrote: On 13.09.2

Re: [gentoo-user] [yoga13] rtl8723au

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On 09/14/2013 11:10 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On 09/14/2013 10:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 14/09/2013 16:36, Michael Mol wrote: >>> So, for work, I got a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13. I've got it booting >>> Gentoo. The rtl8723au chipset, which manages both wifi and bluetooth in >>> this laptop, doe

Re: [gentoo-user] To be updated or not to be updated, Second Part

2013-09-14 Thread AR (aka AleiPhoenix)
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:12 PM, wrote: > > beagleboneblack:/root>eix x11-libs/fox > [D] x11-libs/fox > Available versions: > (1.6) *1.6.40 *1.6.45 ~*1.6.49 > (1.7) ~*1.7.40 ~*1.7.41 >{(+)bzip2 debug doc (+)jpeg (+)opengl (+)png profile tiff > (+)truetype (+)zlib} >

Re: [gentoo-user] [yoga13] rtl8723au

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
On 09/14/2013 10:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/09/2013 16:36, Michael Mol wrote: >> So, for work, I got a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13. I've got it booting >> Gentoo. The rtl8723au chipset, which manages both wifi and bluetooth in >> this laptop, does not have a driver in =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources

Re: [gentoo-user] [yoga13] rtl8723au

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/09/2013 16:36, Michael Mol wrote: > So, for work, I got a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13. I've got it booting > Gentoo. The rtl8723au chipset, which manages both wifi and bluetooth in > this laptop, does not have a driver in =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7. > > Everything I know about the driver c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/09/2013 13:34, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-14 5:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 14/09/2013 10:59, Grant wrote: >>> If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my >>> weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, will the system >>> keep running? > >> Your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/09/2013 11:29, Grant wrote: >> Everything else is a distant concern. When did you last hear of a CPU >> > failure anywhere at any time? CPUs do not fail for the most part. When >> > they do it's because everything else got hot which brings us back to #2 >> > in the list. > I had one fail a nu

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/14/2013 04:50 AM, Grant wrote: > > Instead, how about a 6-drive RAID 10 array with no hot spare? My > guess is this would mean much greater fault-tolerance both overall and > during the rebuild process (once a new drive is swapped in). That > would mean not only potentially increased uptim

[gentoo-user] [yoga13] rtl8723au

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Mol
So, for work, I got a Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13. I've got it booting Gentoo. The rtl8723au chipset, which manages both wifi and bluetooth in this laptop, does not have a driver in =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.7. Everything I know about the driver comes from two places. First, the LKML thread where

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE: unwanted dependencies

2013-09-14 Thread Mick
On Friday 13 Sep 2013 16:57:39 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 06:04:09PM +0400, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > > On 13.09.2013 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > > On 13/09/2013 21:35, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > > >> BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-13 5:47 PM, Grant wrote: Are modern SSDs reliable enough to negate the need for mirroring or do they still crap out? You definitely want to mirror, but I'd be very interested in some statistics comparing rebuild times on a RAID5 and RAID 6 with SSD's, vs 15K SAS drives, vs 7200 SA

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-14 5:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 14/09/2013 10:59, Grant wrote: If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, will the system keep running? Your weakest link is not having redundant power feeds. Two

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-14 4:50 AM, Grant wrote: http://blog.open-e.com/why-a-hot-spare-hard-disk-is-a-bad-idea/ "Based on our long years of experience we have learned that during a RAID rebuild the probability of an additional drive failure is quite high – a rebuild is stressful on the existing drives."

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-09-13 4:00 PM, Grant wrote: Is the Gentoo Software RAID + LVM guide the best place for RAID install info if I'm not using LVM and I'll have a hardware RAID controller? Not ready to take the ZFS plunge? That would greatly reduce the complexity of RAID+LVM, since ZFS best practice is to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 14.09.2013 11:29, schrieb Grant: It's time to switch hosts. I'm looking at the following: Dual Xeon E5-2690 32GB RAM 4x SSD RAID10 >>> >>> If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my >>> weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread thegeezer
On 09/14/2013 09:59 AM, Grant wrote: >> It's time to switch hosts. I'm looking at the following: >> >> Dual Xeon E5-2690 >> 32GB RAM >> 4x SSD RAID10 > If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my > weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, will the system > k

Re: [gentoo-user] creating overlay to modify net-fs/samba-3.6.18

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/09/2013 11:26, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 12 Sep 2013 01:28:00 Timur Aydin wrote: >> On 09/12/13 01:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Yes of course, it make a great deal of sense now. Basically, your local >>> overlay had no idea where the parent portage tree is or how to find it >>> so couldn't fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
>>> It's time to switch hosts. I'm looking at the following: >>> >>> Dual Xeon E5-2690 >>> 32GB RAM >>> 4x SSD RAID10 >> >> If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my >> weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, will the system >> keep running? > > Your weak

Re: [gentoo-user] creating overlay to modify net-fs/samba-3.6.18

2013-09-14 Thread Mick
On Thursday 12 Sep 2013 01:28:00 Timur Aydin wrote: > On 09/12/13 01:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Yes of course, it make a great deal of sense now. Basically, your local > > overlay had no idea where the parent portage tree is or how to find it > > so couldn't find the eclass directory. > > > > As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/09/2013 10:59, Grant wrote: >> It's time to switch hosts. I'm looking at the following: >> >> Dual Xeon E5-2690 >> 32GB RAM >> 4x SSD RAID10 > > If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my > weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, will the system > k

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
I'm told it will likely be an "Adaptec 7000 series controller". >>> >> Can a controller like that handle a 6-drive RAID 10 array? >> >> Is a hot spare handled by the controller or is it configured in the OS? > > The problem with questions of that nature is that the answer is always > "It depen

[gentoo-user] {OT} tried Nimsoft Monitoring?

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
Has anyone tried Nimsoft Monitoring? It's included at Soft Layer which must mean a free license. It looks like a substitute for Nagios. https://www.softlayer.com/services/monitoring/nimsoft http://www.ca.com/us/lpg/nimsoft.aspx - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/09/2013 10:54, Grant wrote: Exactly what RAID controller are you getting? > > My personal rule of thumb: on-board RAID controllers are not worth the > silicon they are written on. Decent hardware raid controllers do exist, > but they plug into big meaty slots and cost a f

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
> It's time to switch hosts. I'm looking at the following: > > Dual Xeon E5-2690 > 32GB RAM > 4x SSD RAID10 If I make this 6x SSD RAID10 with redundant power supplies, what is my weakest link as far as hardware? If a CPU craps out, will the system keep running? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
>>> Exactly what RAID controller are you getting? >>> > >>> > My personal rule of thumb: on-board RAID controllers are not worth the >>> > silicon they are written on. Decent hardware raid controllers do exist, >>> > but they plug into big meaty slots and cost a fortune. By "a fortune" I >>> > mean

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
>> Are modern SSDs reliable enough to negate the need for mirroring or do >> they still crap out? > > I don't have any experience with SSDs, but a general principle: ignore > what anyone says, mirror them anyway, and make lots of backups. I'm onboard with that. - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Grant
>>> Would the hot spare be in case I lose 2 drives at once? Isn't that >>> extraordinarily unlikely? >> >> Not really. One fails and you don't notice for a while, or it takes a while >> to >> recover from it. Then a second one fails. You're up queer street. > > I like to do RAID6 now because I've

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Need a new server

2013-09-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/09/2013 23:39, Grant wrote: >> Exactly what RAID controller are you getting? >> > >> > My personal rule of thumb: on-board RAID controllers are not worth the >> > silicon they are written on. Decent hardware raid controllers do exist, >> > but they plug into big meaty slots and cost a fortune