Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:40:20 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > Next time I do an install, I think I'll try GPT... I can't think why any sane person would do otherwise. Who in their right mind would want to use a 30+year old format where any more than four partitions is a fragile kludge? :-O --

Re: [gentoo-user] hp H222 SAS controller

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Does anyone use that controller with gentoo? > > If yes, which driver/module does support it? > > I ordered one for a server and did not really check the facts ;-) Looks like it uses the LSI SAS2008 chipset (basically LSI controller

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> Can you point to some documentation on how you can use >>> root=PARTUID= with an DOS/MBR partition table? >> >> As Neil alluded to, you can use UUID with MBR (instead of PARTUUID and >> GPT). I have DOS/MBR partition table and my kernel comm

Re: [gentoo-user] libstdc++.so.6

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Hoffman
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > i have problem with my Desktop XFCE and the most Software. On my System > could not find the libstdc++ libs, i search but no find. What is there > wrong? > > gentoo-desk lib # find . | grep libstdc > ./nacl-toolchain-newlib/x86_64-

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:09:28 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > I had this problem on my Intel motherboard, and found out you can >> > disable booting from external drives. "Boot to removable devices" or >> > similar in the BIOS. Failing that, changing th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/7/2 Grant Edwards > On 2013-07-02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:16:15 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> The PARTUUID= parition specifier format is handled directly by kernel > >> code, so I don't see why it should require an initrd (unless the UUID > >> values for

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:16:15 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The PARTUUID= parition specifier format is handled directly by kernel >> code, so I don't see why it should require an initrd (unless the UUID >> values for MBR partitions aren't actually somet

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Randolph Maa?en wrote: > 2013/7/2 Grant Edwards > >> On 2013-07-02, Randolph Maa?en wrote: >>> 2013/7/2 Grant Edwards >> It looks like my options are: >> [...] 5) For the drive with the root parition on it switch from a DOS parition table to a GPT pa

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Grant Edwards > wrote: 5) For the drive with the root parition on it switch from a DOS parition table to a GPT partition table and use the root=PARTUUID= kernel option. >>> >>> You don't need to switch t

[gentoo-user] libstdc++.so.6

2013-07-02 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, i have problem with my Desktop XFCE and the most Software. On my System could not find the libstdc++ libs, i search but no find. What is there wrong? gentoo-desk lib # find . | grep libstdc ./nacl-toolchain-newlib/x86_64-nacl/lib32/libstdc++.la ./nacl-toolchain-newlib/x86_64-nacl/lib32/li

[gentoo-user] hp H222 SAS controller

2013-07-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Does anyone use that controller with gentoo? If yes, which driver/module does support it? I ordered one for a server and did not really check the facts ;-) Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > All the references Google can find for me say that you have to use a > GPT partition table if you want to specify a boot partition using > root=PARTUUID=. > > Does the root=PARTUUID option work for you? > > Can you point to some documenta

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:57:26 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> IOW, it appears that the "blkid" program is either just making stuff >> up or its the filesystem UUID rather than the partition UUID. I >> suspect the latter, since I notice that blkid doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 16:57:26 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > IOW, it appears that the "blkid" program is either just making stuff > up or its the filesystem UUID rather than the partition UUID. I > suspect the latter, since I notice that blkid doesn't print a UUID for > paritions that don't hav

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Randolph Maa?en wrote: > 2013/7/2 Grant Edwards >> I still haven't figured out why my drives suddenly started getting >> discovered in varying orders. [...] >> >> It looks like my options are: [...] > >> 5) For the drive with the root parition on it switch from a DOS >> pari

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:09:28 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I had this problem on my Intel motherboard, and found out you can > > disable booting from external drives. "Boot to removable devices" or > > similar in the BIOS. Failing that, changing the boot order so that the > > firewire/USB d

Re: [gentoo-user] Understanding why portage wants to downgrade nvidia-cuda-sdk

2013-07-02 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > You probably already spotted this but just in case > > stable sdk is v2.02.0807.1535 > stable toolkit is 4.2.9-r2 Alan, I did not notice that. Thank you, it all makes sense now! Chris

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:16:15 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > The PARTUUID= parition specifier format is handled directly by kernel > code, so I don't see why it should require an initrd (unless the UUID > values for MBR partitions aren't actually something the kernel knows > about and are somet

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 02:42:15PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> You don't need to switch to GPT for that. I have a DOS partitioned disk and >>> "blkid" prints the LABEL and UUID for each partition. >> >> And you can pass those values to the kernel via the

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/02/2013 07:23 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2013-07-01, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> >> 2) Unplug or power down the firewire drive when booting. >> > > I had this problem on my Intel motherboard, and found out you can > disable booting from external d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 02:42:15PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > You don't need to switch to GPT for that. I have a DOS partitioned disk and > > "blkid" prints the LABEL and UUID for each partition. > > And you can pass those values to the kernel via the "root=" parameter? That still requi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/7/2 Grant Edwards > On 2013-07-02, Randolph Maa?en wrote: > > 2013/7/2 Grant Edwards > > >> It looks like my options are: > >> > [...] > >> > >> 5) For the drive with the root parition on it switch from a DOS > >> parition table to a GPT partition table and use the > >> root=PARTU

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-02, Randolph Maa?en wrote: > 2013/7/2 Grant Edwards >> It looks like my options are: >> [...] >> >> 5) For the drive with the root parition on it switch from a DOS >> parition table to a GPT partition table and use the >> root=PARTUUID= kernel option. > > You don't need to sw

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/02/2013 07:23 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-07-01, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > 2) Unplug or power down the firewire drive when booting. > I had this problem on my Intel motherboard, and found out you can disable booting from external drives. "Boot to removable devices" or similar i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/7/2 Grant Edwards : > It looks like my options are: > > > > 5) For the drive with the root parition on it switch from a DOS > parition table to a GPT partition table and use the > root=PARTUUID= kernel option. > > Switching to a GPT partition table sounds like the cleanest solution,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/7/2 Grant Edwards > On 2013-07-01, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > I've just recently run into a problem where sometimes when a machine > > boots, the kernel can't find init. This appears to be because my grub > > configuration line says "root=/dev/sda5" and _sometimes_ the drive > > that conta

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-07-01, Grant Edwards wrote: > I've just recently run into a problem where sometimes when a machine > boots, the kernel can't find init. This appears to be because my grub > configuration line says "root=/dev/sda5" and _sometimes_ the drive > that contains my root partition is sdb instead

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find init due to inconsistent drive order

2013-07-02 Thread Stroller
On 1 July 2013, at 23:57, Alan McKinnon wrote: > ... > Did you miss the entire clusterfuck debate about latest udev tricks? > > Those names depend only on the order in which devices are discovered, > and that process has always been indeterminate. udev used to get in the > middle and rename thing

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, July 2, 2013 10:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > You're welcome. A pull system does rely on the server being secure, which > is why I don't use it for offsite backups to the cloud :-O Wouldn't a push/pull combination be a good compromise? The remote servers push their backups to their own loc

Re: [gentoo-user] Understanding why portage wants to downgrade nvidia-cuda-sdk

2013-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/07/2013 10:04, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:06:36 -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2 >> Why does the atom "~dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2" NOT apply to >> "dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2.9-r2"? > > It applies to version 4.2 and all revisions. 4.2.9 is

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} backups... still backups....

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 23:24:55 -0700, Grant wrote: > >> I'd rather lose my backups than lose my backups and give up root > >> read/write to every system I back up. :) > > > > If you want to leave your backup server open to exploitation attempts, > > maybe you should be looking at a different soluti

Re: [gentoo-user] Understanding why portage wants to downgrade nvidia-cuda-sdk

2013-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:06:36 -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2 > Why does the atom "~dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2" NOT apply to > "dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk-4.2.9-r2"? It applies to version 4.2 and all revisions. 4.2.9 is a different version You need one of =dev-util/nvid

Re: [gentoo-user] Locking down a user with a shell account and SSH access

2013-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/07/2013 08:33, Grant wrote: >>> My backup user needs a shell on the backup server in order to execute >>> rsync and needs to be included in /etc/ssh/sshd_config AllowUsers in >>> order to SSH in. My authorized_keys file is locked-down. The second >>> field for the user in /etc/shadow is an