Re: [gentoo-user] Current Dells and UEFI/secureboot (or other showstoppers)?

2013-03-30 Thread Stroller
Sorry if I was terse in my previous reply. On 30 March 2013, at 22:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > ... > As per the subject line, I'm asking if current Dells have any > showstoppers for Gentoo. If not, I'll probably go with a Dell. I would think Dell would probably be a very good choice. I know that

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between --update and --emptytree?

2013-03-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:04:24PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Did an update today. After the update, I checked again... > > > > [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv --update --changed-use world > > > > These are the packages that would be merge

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: > Hello, > > i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable > for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns > amplification attacks. > I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really fin

Re: [gentoo-user] Difference between --update and --emptytree?

2013-03-30 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Did an update today. After the update, I checked again... > > [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv --update --changed-use world > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > Total: 0 packages,

[gentoo-user] Difference between --update and --emptytree?

2013-03-30 Thread Walter Dnes
Did an update today. After the update, I checked again... [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv --update --changed-use world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB Good... nothing to add... I think. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Current Dells and UEFI/secureboot (or other showstoppers)?

2013-03-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/03/2013 00:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 05:39:15PM +, Stroller wrote >> >> Decide whether or not you need a new PC and make a new post - >> UEFI/secureboot is irrelevant to poor YouTube performance. > > I may not have been as clear as I wanted to be. With the incre

Re: [gentoo-user] Current Dells and UEFI/secureboot (or other showstoppers)?

2013-03-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 05:39:15PM +, Stroller wrote > > Decide whether or not you need a new PC and make a new post - > UEFI/secureboot is irrelevant to poor YouTube performance. I may not have been as clear as I wanted to be. With the increase in my download speed, the bottleneck to Yout

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 vs udev-200??

2013-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:46:43 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > Because you're running stable? Versions higher than 197-r8 are still > > > in testing. > > > > Right... hence my question... why if I comment out those lines do I > > now see all of these other weird updates for udev-200? > > -

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 vs udev-200??

2013-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:49:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> emerge -pvuND world shows updates to udev-197, with no mention of > >> udev-200, but... > > > > Because you're running stable? Versions higher than 197-r8 are still > > in testing. > > Right... hence my question... why if I comment out

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 30, 2013 9:48 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... > > > On 2013-03-30 10:39 AM, Tanstaafl

Re: [gentoo-user] Current Dells and UEFI/secureboot (or other showstoppers)?

2013-03-30 Thread Stroller
On 30 March 2013, at 04:20, Walter Dnes wrote: > ... > * it could keep up with Youtube 480p videos fullscreen under ADSL 5 > megabit service. The stream was the limit. > * after the speed was bumped up, it could keep up with Youtube 720p > videos fullscreen under ADSL 6 megabit service. The st

[gentoo-user] Re: [seriously O/T] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 Mar 2013 15:11:17 Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:06:16 +0100 > > Norman Rieß wrote: > > As we all know everything works better and cheaper when things are > > > > privatized > > Actually No it's not so simple at all. > > You get incompetence in private and publi

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 vs udev-200??

2013-03-30 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On 03/30/2013 11:24 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, I don't understand this... Why is it that when I comment out the package.mask entries for udev: #>=sys-fs/udev-181 #>=virtual/udev-181 emerge -

[gentoo-user] jedit : no keyboard input possible

2013-03-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, after quite some time I have tried to use jedit again. To my surprise, I cannot input any key (the mouse is working though). I've tried a trivial Keyboard read test written in Java which works just fine. What's going on here? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 vs udev-200??

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-30 12:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:24:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Why is it that when I comment out the package.mask entries for udev: #>=sys-fs/udev-181 #>=virtual/udev-181 emerge -pvuND world shows updates to udev-197, with no mention of udev-200, but... B

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 30.03.2013 16:11, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: > On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:06:16 +0100 > Norman Rieß wrote: > >> As we all know everything works better and cheaper when things are >> privatized > > Actually No it's not so simple at all. > > You get incompetence in private and public and you may be

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 vs udev-200??

2013-03-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 11:24:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Why is it that when I comment out the package.mask entries for udev: > > #>=sys-fs/udev-181 > #>=virtual/udev-181 > > emerge -pvuND world shows updates to udev-197, with no mention of > udev-200, but... Because you're running stable? Ver

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: > I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I > don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability > and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting > capability... > > As far as I know, it is actively maintained. Do I see the

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-03-30 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-03-30, Tanstaafl wrote: > Ok, just read the new news item and the linked udev-guide wiki page, and > the only thing left that I'm unsure/concerned about now is the > persistent net rules changes... > > The very last line on the wiki page says: > >> 4. Known problems >> >> Stale 70-persis

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-30 11:15 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:53:29 +0100 Rene Rasmussen wrote: There is also the possibility to use opendns.com I've been using them for years, and have not had any trouble. I started using them when my ISP decided to block some sites. And their standar

[gentoo-user] udev-197 vs udev-200??

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, I don't understand this... Why is it that when I comment out the package.mask entries for udev: #>=sys-fs/udev-181 #>=virtual/udev-181 emerge -pvuND world shows updates to udev-197, with no mention of udev-200, but... when I uncomment them: >=sys-fs/udev-181 >=virtual/udev-181 emerge -

[gentoo-user] Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, just read the new news item and the linked udev-guide wiki page, and the only thing left that I'm unsure/concerned about now is the persistent net rules changes... The very last line on the wiki page says: 4. Known problems Stale 70-persistent-net.rules (or other network rules) in /etc/u

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:53:29 +0100 Rene Rasmussen wrote: > There is also the possibility to use opendns.com > I've been using them for years, and have not had any trouble. I > started using them when my ISP decided to block some sites. And their > standard service is free :) They also support dn

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:06:16 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: > As we all know everything works better and cheaper when things are > privatized Actually No it's not so simple at all. You get incompetence in private and public and you may be more likely to get away with it for longer in a public servic

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Rene Rasmussen
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:06:16 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: > > Am 29.03.2013 um 23:34 schrieb Paul Hartman > : > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > >> On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote: > >> > >>> In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several

Re: eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
I should have added that this is for a server (not hardened), so I don't care about hot plug this or that, I just care about stability and reliability with respect to updates not breaking booting capability... On 2013-03-30 10:39 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-03-28 2:15 PM, Dale wrote: Just

eudev - is it a viable *long-term* option? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Updating our live servers. I'm scared!

2013-03-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-28 2:15 PM, Dale wrote: Just a thought. Have you thought about switching to eudev? That would solve some udev issues. Since you are running a hardened profile and servers, may not be a option tho. I'm curious... Is eudev still being 'maintained'? Does it still have any advantage

Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack

2013-03-30 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 29.03.2013 um 23:34 schrieb Paul Hartman : > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote: >> >>> In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several seconds to reply), >>> fail randomly when they should resolve, return an I

Re: [gentoo-user] Current Dells and UEFI/secureboot (or other showstoppers)?

2013-03-30 Thread Philip Webb
130330 Walter Dnes wrote: > I have 2 Dell desktops ("production" and "hot backup") > that are pushing 5 or 6 years of age, and I need to replace at least one. > They simply can't keep up with HD video streams... > * I'm running Gentoo with full optimizations > * I'm running ICEWM with no "desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] 4G Stick Huawei E3276

2013-03-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
next steps: Pulled "HUAWEI Data Cards Linux Driver" from http://www.huaweidevice.com/worldwide/downloadCenter.do?method=toDownloadFile&flay=software&softid=NDcwMzU= With this I was able to enter the PIN and get "mobile broadband" in NM ... although still no connection. The install-process of t

Re: [gentoo-user] 4G Stick Huawei E3276

2013-03-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
my udev-rule: # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTR{address}=="0c:5b:8f:27:9a:64", NAME="wwan0" What I get: # lsusb Bus 001 Device 043: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E398 LTE/UMTS/GSM Modem/Networkcard # lsmod Module Size

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-30 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
Another interesting point about this load control thing is that if the package uses a build system which doesn't support load control, load will surge high. It is currently happening with me while installing Mongo, because the build system scons doesn't have load control feature. On Mar 29, 2013 1

Re: [gentoo-user] 4G Stick Huawei E3276

2013-03-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 30.03.2013 08:54, schrieb Mick: > Don't you lve OS automation? Especially when it works! ;-) ;-) > If you look at the device manager you will probably find different > strings describing the USB device interfaces that WinXP > detects/assigns compared to your Linux OS + udevd + systemd.

Re: [gentoo-user] 4G Stick Huawei E3276

2013-03-30 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 Mar 2013 23:40:18 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 29.03.2013 22:40, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > Am 29.03.2013 22:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> I don't know about NM's preferences ... I just assume this could be > >> the problem. > >> > >> Gotta dig up some udev-ruling