Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:40:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > >> > Or, try remove LDAP, NIS and PAM support for auth from a RHEL machine >> > to test if it works without those things in place. >> > RHEL? Impossible. >> > Gentoo? Trivially e

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/03/2013 15:40, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> On 03/14/2013 09:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Or, try remove LDAP, NIS and PAM support for auth from a RHEL machine to >>> test if it works without those things in place. >>> RHEL? Impossib

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/03/2013 16:07, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: >> >>> I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to >>> compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared >>> to Redhat, Man

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Mar 15, 2013 7:31 AM, "Mateusz Kowalczyk" wrote: > > On 14/03/13 23:52, Dale wrote: > > Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: > >> On 14/03/13 22:41, Dale wrote: > >>> Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: > > > I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to >

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 15/03/13 08:31, Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: > On 14/03/13 23:52, Dale wrote: >> Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: >>> On 14/03/13 22:41, Dale wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: > > ... > RedHat maintainers aren't stupid (you can probably tell I've never > use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/13 23:52, Dale wrote: > Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: >> On 14/03/13 22:41, Dale wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: > I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to > compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo co

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:52:41 -0500, Dale wrote: > So, if I install Redhat on my machine, would it be less efficient than > my Gentoo install which is customized for my hardware? Has someone else > tested this and made it public? No. They may have tested it on their machine, but not on yours, so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: > On 14/03/13 22:41, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: >>> I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/13 22:41, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: >> >>> I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to >>> compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared >>> to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? >> I just did a test,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: > >> I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to >> compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared >> to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? > I just did a test, and they're all the same. > > CDs/DVDS

Re: [gentoo-user] make modules_install error; modules not recognized as ELF files

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:47:34PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote >> Is my netbook dying, or is something else wrong? This is an older >> 32-bit Atom netbook, with >> CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe >> -fno-unwin

Re: [gentoo-user] make modules_install error; modules not recognized as ELF files

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:47:34PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote > Is my netbook dying, or is something else wrong? This is an older > 32-bit Atom netbook, with > CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe > -fno-unwind-tables -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables" > and 'MAKEOPTS="

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2013/3/14 Michael Mol > On 03/14/2013 11:17 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:29:54PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > >> > >> > >> >> http-equiv="Content-Type"> > >> > >> > >> On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: > >> > >> > >> Also, I

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On 03/14/2013 11:17 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:29:54PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> >> >> > http-equiv="Content-Type"> >> >> >> On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> >> Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 08:31:54PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > >http-equiv="Content-Type"> > > > On 03/14/2013 07:36 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > On 14/03/2013 13:29, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > > On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, D

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:29:54PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > >http-equiv="Content-Type"> > > > On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: > > > Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of > Gentoo. Do any > other large corps run it that we know

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/13 22:31, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> Why I prefer Gentoo over other distros: Full control. > > That's it, in a nutshell. > >> I mean, I can (and do) leverage "-march=native". > > I've been scared away from -march and instead of -mtune

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:40:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > Or, try remove LDAP, NIS and PAM support for auth from a RHEL machine > > to test if it works without those things in place. > > RHEL? Impossible. > > Gentoo? Trivially easy. > "Trivially easy", of course, means an emerge -euDNtv

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Why I prefer Gentoo over other distros: Full control. That's it, in a nutshell. > I mean, I can (and do) leverage "-march=native". I've been scared away from -march and instead of -mtune in case i need to drop my hard drive into another sys

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/2013 16:07, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: > >> I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to >> compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared >> to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? > > I just did a test, and they're al

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 2013-03-14, Dale wrote: > I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to > compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared > to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? I just did a test, and they're all the same. CDs/DVDS of various distros dropped from

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/2013 15:40, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On 03/14/2013 09:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 14/03/2013 14:12, Pandu Poluan wrote: >>> On Mar 14, 2013 4:14 PM, "William Kenworthy" >> > wrote: Did this few years back for an online magazine sponsored by a local >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 03/14/2013 09:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/03/2013 14:12, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2013 4:14 PM, "William Kenworthy" > > wrote: >>> Did this few years back for an online magazine sponsored by a local >>> linux sysadmin company who wanted to see the diff

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/2013 14:12, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Mar 14, 2013 4:14 PM, "William Kenworthy" > wrote: >> >> Did this few years back for an online magazine sponsored by a local >> linux sysadmin company who wanted to see the difference between generic >> debian and optimise

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/2013 14:31, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On 03/14/2013 07:36 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 14/03/2013 13:29, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >>> On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any other large corps run it that we know o

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 03/14/2013 07:36 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 14/03/2013 13:29, Mark David Dumlao wrote: On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any other large corps run it that we kn

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Mar 14, 2013 4:14 PM, "William Kenworthy" wrote: > > Did this few years back for an online magazine sponsored by a local > linux sysadmin company who wanted to see the difference between generic > debian and optimised (not necessarily gentoo, but thats what I used.) > > Difference in times was

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Mar 14, 2013 6:39 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On 14/03/2013 13:29, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any > >> other large corps run it that we know of? > >> > > What exactly does it mean to ru

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 14/03/2013 13:29, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: >> Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any >> other large corps run it that we know of? >> > What exactly does it mean to run a "modified version of Gentoo"? Don't > we all? ;) I've al

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Hi Just my $0.02: Of course there are distro-related issues on performance, but once the system is up and running, wouldn't it be a matter of compiler/linker optimization differences? Francisco 2013/3/14 Michael Hampicke > 2013/3/14 Dale > >> Howdy, >> >> Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a mod

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On 03/14/2013 04:15 PM, Dale wrote: Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any other large corps run it that we know of? What exactly does it mean to run a "modified version of Gentoo"? Don't we all? ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

2013/3/14 Dale > Howdy, > > Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any > other large corps run it that we know of? > > I googled a bit but couldn't find anything. Maybe my search terms > wasn't good enough. Yeehaw, domainfactory (http://df.eu) uses a modified version

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Did this few years back for an online magazine sponsored by a local linux sysadmin company who wanted to see the difference between generic debian and optimised (not necessarily gentoo, but thats what I used.) Difference in times was ~10% across the board for graphics manipulations (gimp scripts),

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:15:36 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to >> compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared >> to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? > > Mandrake? Where have you been for th

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 03:15:36 -0500, Dale wrote: > I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to > compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared > to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? Mandrake? Where have you been for the last ten years, Dale? ;) -

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Hi !! On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to > compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared > to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? First things first ... What do you mean by "speed"

[gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros

Howdy, I was wondering. Has anyone ever seen where a test as been done to compare the speed of Gentoo with other distros? Maybe Gentoo compared to Redhat, Mandrake, Ubuntu and such? Also, I read that Nasdaq runs a modified version of Gentoo. Do any other large corps run it that we know of? I

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

On 14/03/2013 01:09, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:16:07AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote >> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:24:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> A useful trick I use on my Gentoo test/dev vms is a defined set called >>> @tools. These all use a shared /etc/portage/ for cons