Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:48:48 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > 2. Why do you care about those specific packages in world? Do they > > cause a conflict or some other large problem? Personally I'd just > > leave them in world > > That's the plan. > > Most of these servers have been running fore

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics support problem in "make menuconfig" kernel 3.0.6

2012-01-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 10:32:43AM +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote > > "Intel 8xx/9xx/G3x/G4x/HD Graphics" is actually the name of the key > CONFIG_DRM_I915. It's the same option. According to > http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/DRM_I915.html the name was changed > in kernel 2.6.39. Thank y

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Dale
Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: >>> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > >>> wro

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 07:22 PM, Dale wrote: I always knew I was "odd". Looks like I have some company tho. Welcome to the "odd user" group Michael. It ain't us =)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 07:04 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:50 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: And now finally we have Zac, a brave man who has taken on the thankless task of sorting the mess out. Most of his deep changes over the past two years or so are to make things consistent wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Secure Cloud Backup

2012-01-02 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jan 3, 2012 4:55 AM, "James Broadhead" wrote: > > I have a pile of files, and a personal svn repo totalling around 13GiB > which I want to back up to cheaply to 'the cloud'. I would also like > it to be non-trivial for someone with access to the cloud servers to > decrypt my data. > > I have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Secure Cloud Backup

2012-01-02 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 02.01.2012 22:50, schrieb James Broadhead: > I have a pile of files, and a personal svn repo totalling around 13GiB > which I want to back up to cheaply to 'the cloud'. I would also like > it to be non-trivial for someone with access to the cloud servers to > decrypt my data. > > I have a 50GB

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources: can't make menuconfig with user? User can't access ncurses?

2012-01-02 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:58:18 -0200 > Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: > >> I'm not currently at my Gentoo box, sorry for this, but if I don't >> post this now I'll probably forget to post it at all. >> Anyways, last time I tried upgrading my kernel, I copied

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 2. Januar 2012, 14:22:05 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tri

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:50 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: And now finally we have Zac, a brave man who has taken on the thankless task of sorting the mess out. Most of his deep changes over the past two years or so are to make things consistent within the overall grand pl

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:59:01 +, Mick wrote: > > /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty, but they > > are neither group readable nor writeable, so the group ownership is > > possibly not that relevant. > > Hmm ... > > They are writeable here (with 1 urxvt running): > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:50 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > And now finally we have Zac, a brave man who has taken on the > > thankless task of sorting the mess out. Most of his deep changes over > > the past two years or so are to make things consistent within the > > overall grand plan. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:20:19 -0500 > Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michael Mol >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky >> > wrote: >> >> On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:11:15 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > How so? If anything that was not a dependency of something else was in > > the world file, how could anything be removed? > > I have both of these in world: > >dev-php/PEAR-Mail >dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime > > Let's say PEAR-

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 06:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: Making your software punish its users isn't going to make them more careful, it's going to make them stop using your software. If bash did an 'rm -rf /' when you mistyped a command[1], woul

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 06:29 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:11:15 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: If I know that I have been careful in the past, this is not a problem, since the contents of world will be accurate. However, I'm a little worried that I may have forgotten --oneshot and add

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources: can't make menuconfig with user? User can't access ncurses?

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:58:18 -0200 Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: > I'm not currently at my Gentoo box, sorry for this, but if I don't > post this now I'll probably forget to post it at all. > Anyways, last time I tried upgrading my kernel, I copied my .config > and ran make menuconfig as m

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:20:19 -0500 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michael Mol > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky > > wrote: > >> On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everyth

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:11:15 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > If I know that I have been careful in the past, this is not a > problem, since the contents of world will be accurate. However, I'm a > little worried that I may have forgotten --oneshot and added > PEAR-Mail by mistake on an upgrade. N

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Making your software punish its users isn't going to make them more > careful, it's going to make them stop using your software. If bash > did an 'rm -rf /' when you mistyped a command[1], would you think, > gee, I need to be more car

[gentoo-user] postscript fonts with "flpsed"

2012-01-02 Thread Joseph
I have "flpsed" installed to annotate some ps and pdf files. After switching to a new system when I open ps or pdf file, the default font to write is 8pts (too small) when I select larger font 14 or 24pts. the fonts don't scale on the screen correctly they are still 8pts. I only see the changes

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:18:23 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > cocktail > > Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. > > Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you > > have to dig through dep graphs to find th

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 05:41 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:33:04 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Yes they have. Remove anything in the least suspect and emerge -cp. Then emerge -n anything listed that you need. I don't know which ones I need, and I can't just remove them and cross my

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
The driver is compatible: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames#NV50 http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix (GeForce 8400 GS)

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Mick
On Monday 02 Jan 2012 20:56:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group > > of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted > > back to colleen. So how do I fix this? >

[gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources: can't make menuconfig with user? User can't access ncurses?

2012-01-02 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
I'm not currently at my Gentoo box, sorry for this, but if I don't post this now I'll probably forget to post it at all. Anyways, last time I tried upgrading my kernel, I copied my .config and ran make menuconfig as my main user, but it whined about missing ncurses libraries or something. After su'

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 04:58 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> >> Ah. I must have gotten confused at "So which ones can I remove? >> Solutions involving time travel and/or losing customers will be >> disqualified." >> > > Sorry, this thread has gotten a

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread Jason Weisberger
Check to make sure the driver is compatible with your nv9x chipset. I'm your xorg log it doesn't show that one as being supported. On Jan 2, 2012 10:14 AM, "." wrote: > Hi there! > > I can't run Xorg with Nouveau. > I use gentoo-sources without proprietary BLOBs (gentoo-libre). > http://en.gento

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:33:04 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Yes they have. Remove anything in the least suspect and emerge -cp. > > Then emerge -n anything listed that you need. > > I don't know which ones I need, and I can't just remove them and cross > my fingers, because these are live

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Kfir Lavi writes: > You need to change the 1.0 to your card. > Read more here: > http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/mplayer-multiple-sound-cards-select-audio-device-p77/ > > Kfir Thank you, once I got the device names with aplay -l mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.0 W.P.A._CaseyBillWelden.wav Haa haaa...

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
dmesg | grep nouveaufb shows nothing. > If its just not loading on its own then adding 'nouveau.modeset=1' will make > sure it gets enabled. Are you sure? I've been told that this is not supported.

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Michael Mol writes: >> However, when I attempt tp play something with `mplayer some.wav', I >> get no sound. > > Stupid question: Are you specifying to mplayer which audio device to use? No... and really not sure where to find the correct name to specify either.

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Kfir Lavi writes: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > >> Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>> Running Wheezy >>> >>> Can anyone suggest pointers, urls, or coaching toward getting an >>> m-audio USB Fast Track Pro (external sound card) working? >>> >>> When I run `alsamixer' it lists the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 04:58 PM, Michael Mol wrote: Ah. I must have gotten confused at "So which ones can I remove? Solutions involving time travel and/or losing customers will be disqualified." Sorry, this thread has gotten a little out of hand =) I think my point was: most solutions available to me

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 04:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Michael Orlitzky >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: cocktail Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mathurin
"." writes: >> Are you by any chance disabling KMS on boot? If not then I'm not sure >> where the problem is. > How to check this? > Well if you have a framebuffer and get output from 'dmesg|grep nouveaufb' it's a safe bet that KMS is enabled. Also make sure the kernel isn't being loaded with 'n

[gentoo-user] Secure Cloud Backup

2012-01-02 Thread James Broadhead
I have a pile of files, and a personal svn repo totalling around 13GiB which I want to back up to cheaply to 'the cloud'. I would also like it to be non-trivial for someone with access to the cloud servers to decrypt my data. I have a 50GB free account for Box.net, but would consider others if th

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 04:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: cocktail Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig thr

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 04:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:18:23 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Requires time travel, not a solution! Fine. Stick with your broken system and ignore any suggestions to either repair the damage you have already done or to avoid future damage. Blame it a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> cocktail >> Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately >> it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig >> through dep graphs to find the ful

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 04:25 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: No one has offered up a way to fix it yet, or a downside to the old behavior. Yes they have. Remove anything in the least suspect and emerge -cp. Then emerge -n anything listed that you ne

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:18:23 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Requires time travel, not a solution! Fine. Stick with your broken system and ignore any suggestions to either repair the damage you have already done or to avoid future damage. Blame it all on the portage devs and demand a refund! -

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system > > working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take a little > > effort to repair, but that will help you remember to be more careful > > in future. > No

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:11:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately > it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig > through dep graphs to find the full dep list): > As it is only used to support non-portage instal

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: cocktail Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig through dep graphs to find the full dep list): First run emerge -p to find all the packages that will be

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:33:43 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > >> > >> Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the > >> following in one of my world files: > >> > >> dev-php/PEAR-Mail > >> dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime > >> dev-php/PEAR-P

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 03:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:55:19 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: New behavior: user error permanently breaks your world file. It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group > of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted > back to colleen. So how do I fix this? /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty,

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:32:34 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? smartmontools -- Neil Bothwick C Error #011: First C Program, huh? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:55:19 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > New behavior: user error permanently breaks your world file. It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take a little effort to repair, but that will help y

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:29:57 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > That works for the case where the software is managed by portage, > which is likely 99.% of what's on Gentoo systems worldwide. It > doesn't work however for the odd case where I write some little > program which requires a library (ta-li

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
> Are you by any chance disabling KMS on boot? If not then I'm not sure > where the problem is. How to check this?

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer >>> wrote: On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 20

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: >> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: >>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: > On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: [

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mathurin
"." writes: >> Has the proprietary driver ever been in use on your system... > No. > > I've updated xf86-video-nouveau and libdrm. Same result. > >> The output of 'lspci -k' might give you a hint. > What are you trying to say? > > lspci -k: > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/528934/ > Are you by any

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: >>> >>> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> Readin

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: > On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: >> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: > x > > >> Okay, so how do I change the group for a

[gentoo-user] Re: gdb debugging of small system built with catalyst

2012-01-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 02 January 2012 04:09:10 Kfir Lavi wrote: > I'm now struggling connecting eclipse to debugging remote the target. > If someone have some insight for me, I'll be happy to hear it. http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=debuggers http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=toolchain

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> >> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > >> >> >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Coll

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my > >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was th

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks exactly like the line above. >>> What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. >> Good point,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Dale
Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/02/2012 11:25 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Look at it this way: with emerge you tell portage to install a package and add it to world. Period. The package will be installed, no matter whether it’s at the newest version or not. With -u, however, you tell emerg

Re: [gentoo-user] git protocol

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 02 January 2012 14:11:56 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > Hi again > I am setting up a git repository using gentoo gitosis. > I can push well from my git repo to the server. > > But when I want to fetch the repo from the server to another computer using > the git protocol (git://myserver/myproje

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread .
> Has the proprietary driver ever been in use on your system... No. I've updated xf86-video-nouveau and libdrm. Same result. > The output of 'lspci -k' might give you a hint. What are you trying to say? lspci -k: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/528934/

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 13:07, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: >> On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really >>> feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else >>> rema

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:26:10 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > > > > In that case, you probably want to use encfs to encrypt each home > > > directory separately. dmcrypt works on block devices, so a single home > > > partition would have a sin

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Graham Murray
Tanstaafl writes: > On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. >> However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file >> once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real >> application, etc. > > How

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really >> feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else >> remarked, it's portage's job to do what you tell it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:47, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Again, 'equery depends' will tell you if any package locatable through > the @world hierarchy needs the package. No need to uninstall anything > to do that level of investigation. revdep-rebuild -I is also useful, > although more historically than now. >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Using m-audio Fast Track Pro on linux help

2012-01-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Running Wheezy >> >> Can anyone suggest pointers, urls, or coaching toward getting an >> m-audio USB Fast Track Pro (external sound card) working? >> >> When I run `alsamixer' it lists the Fast Track as one of the sound

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: > > I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really > feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else > remarked, it's portage's job to do what you tell it to do; you point > the gun, pull the trigger, it delivers the p

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> That's the purpose of the "emerge -p" step. Presumably, you would see >>> that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable w

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:29, Mark Knecht wrote: > > That works for the case where the software is managed by portage, > which is likely 99.% of what's on Gentoo systems worldwide. It > doesn't work however for the odd case where I write some little > program which requires a library (ta-lib in my portag

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> That's the purpose of the "emerge -p" step. Presumably, you would see >> that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with >> removing, you'd decide you didn't want it removed, a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> That's the purpose of the "emerge -p" step. Presumably, you would see >> that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with >> removing, you'd decide you didn't want it removed,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: > > That's the purpose of the "emerge -p" step. Presumably, you would see > that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with > removing, you'd decide you didn't want it removed, and you'd add it > back to your world set. Yeah, I'm not sure

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:35:46 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> > 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. >> > However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file >> > once a quarter or so and remove any

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Nouveau

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mathurin
"." writes: > Hi there! > > I can't run Xorg with Nouveau. > I use gentoo-sources without proprietary BLOBs (gentoo-libre). > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Free_your_Gentoo > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/525752/ > > /usr/src/linux/.config: > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/52

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks > >> exactly like the line above. > > > > What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. > Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:26:10 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: > > In that case, you probably want to use encfs to encrypt each home > > directory separately. dmcrypt works on block devices, so a single home > > partition would have a single password. > dmcrypt supports multiple simultaneous password

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> >>> Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in >>> one of my world files: >>> >>>  dev-php/PEAR-Mail >>>  dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime >>>  dev-php/PEAR-PEAR >>>  

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:09:06 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following > in one of my world files: > >dev-php/PEAR-Mail >dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime >dev-php/PEAR-PEAR >dev-php/PEAR-Structures_Graph > > which of those do I

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:33:31 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Well, travel time sucks too, but I was referring to time travel via > e.g. a time machine, in case some wise guy tried to answer "well you > shouldn't have done that." =) Ah, you mean backups, not time travel :) -- Neil Bothwick "

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:35:46 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. > > However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file > > once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real > > application, etc. > > How do

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:25 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Look at it this way: with emerge you tell portage to install a package and add it to world. Period. The package will be installed, no matter whether it’s at the newest version or not. With -u, however, you tell emerge to only do the installatio

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in one of my world files: dev-php/PEAR-Mail dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime dev-php/PEAR-PEAR dev-php/PEAR-Structures_Graph which of those do I want? At least one of them was instal

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:22 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not clear. You allow your server customers to modify your servers, or what, they asked you to install stuff and now you don't know which of them was needed and why? I'm just not clear. They ask us to install stuff, and now we don't know which ones

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 10:26:02AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > So when the user tells portage to emerge (not merge) something it goes > > in world as obviously that's what the user wanted. Presumably the user > > knows what they are doing an

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world >> should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in >> world (on my machines anyway) is something: >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: >> On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> >>> I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world >>> should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. E

Re: [gentoo-user] crypt my home repository

2012-01-02 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 02 January 2012 09:07:49 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > Hi all > > I may ask something already discussed, but I can't find any good > documentation. I am wondering of how to secure my home repository on my > laptop. I am thinking of cryptography and other things (the password > uncrypt the rep

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world >> should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in >> world (on my machines anyway) is something: >>

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in world (on my machines anyway) is something: 1) I'd call from the command line 2) Need to write a little software myse

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. >> However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file >> once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. >> However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file >> once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 10:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real application, et

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2012-01-01 5:13 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzky >>> wrote: Using "emerge --update foo" adds "foo" to your world file. This is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/02/2012 10:31 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Uh-oh... I've *never* used -1 unless I'm trying to fix a broken package by recompiling it... I've always just used emerge -vuDN world... Been doing it this way for 7+ years, and never had a problem, so my question is: What 'harmful' thing has been hap

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

2012-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real application, etc. How do you tell which is which?

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