Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

2011-12-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 Dec 2011 20:49:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:18:40 +, Mick wrote: > > But then if there were say 5 ebuilds running in parallel and all their > > output printed in the same terminal, it would be almightily difficult > > to untangle the spaghetti that may show up in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

2011-12-06 Thread Francisco Ares
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:00 PM, walt wrote: > On 12/04/2011 01:41 PM, Francisco Ares wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have just upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 and after that I was unable >> to hear the sound of videoclips from YouTube, for instance. >> >> I remember there was a little trick to make past ver

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:23:22PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for > >> beginners! It is typical then > > > > Whaddayatawkinbout, gentoo is more than great, it's awesome! > > Gentoo isn't intended for beginners, and makes no cla

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Dec 7, 2011 8:01 AM, "Grant" wrote: > > > That will disable postgrey, but isn't enough to enable postscreen. There > > are a couple of daemons you have to enable in master.cf (steps 2 through 6): > > > > http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html#enable > > > > That README refers to lines t

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Grant
> SMTPS is deprecated. You probably don't need it at all, unless you do. Some > older (Microsoft...) clients can't use anything else for encryption. > > These days, the "proper" way to secure your users' connections is with TLS > on the submission port, 587. You should also have a commented-out > '

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Grant
> That will disable postgrey, but isn't enough to enable postscreen. There > are a couple of daemons you have to enable in master.cf (steps 2 through 6): > >  http://www.postfix.org/POSTSCREEN_README.html#enable > > That README refers to lines that are commented-out in master.cf; of > course, if yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

2011-12-06 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
The idea behind pulseaudio is live switching of streams. ALSA is great if you have only one audio card, but as soon as you introduce a bluetooth headset, a headphone, a HDMI display with sound output, ALSA can't handle real time stream redirection. Sure, you can use scripts to toggle .asoundrc prof

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Dec 7, 2011 2:22 AM, "Paul Hartman" wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 12/06/11 11:32, Grant wrote: > >> > >> Got it. Your explanations are positively lucid. > >> > >> I added this to /etc/postifx/main.cf: > >> > >> postscreen_greet_action = enforce > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Indi
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 12:40:01AM +0100, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2011-12-06, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote: > >> > >> > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so d

[gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-12-06, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote: >> >> > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for >> > beginners! >> >> Because Gentoo is not for beginners,

[gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-12-06, Indi wrote: > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:03PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote: > >> However, Getoo could be great (I really don't know) but installing >> Ubuntu is working like a charm (I still don't know anything in Linux!) >> But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so diffi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > And yet the documentation is clear enough for anyone to follow along. Which > leads me to my next point: the Gentoo documentation is far and away the best > of any distro I have tried. Whoever writes these docs deserves a heap of > accolades for his effort

Re: [gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ?

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 06.12.2011 14:59, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > I currently look at the cheaper ones: Edge E520, L520, T420 ... Zooming in on a L520 w/ core i5-2430M and WXGA++ (higher resolution) Any concerns or experiences? Thanks, greets, Stefan

[gentoo-user] Re: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

2011-12-06 Thread walt
On 12/04/2011 01:41 PM, Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, I have just upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 and after that I was unable to hear the sound of videoclips from YouTube, for instance. I remember there was a little trick to make past versions of FF to work with pulse audio (that I use so VirtualBox m

Re: [gentoo-user] Listing applications with eix...

2011-12-06 Thread Bill Longman
On 12/06/2011 06:55 AM, Rudmer van Dijk wrote: Bill Longman wrote: is there a way to list all -- for exmaple -- audio related applications without without being burried under audio related system libs for example or entries with (also as an exmaple) "this application does not supprt audio but on

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using libreoffice 3.5.0.0 yet?

2011-12-06 Thread walt
On 12/05/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: IIRC, libreoffice was released with *experimental* support for gtk3, and have acknowledged that there are issues with the gtk3 port. However Gentoo decided to enable gtk3 support by default.

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/06/2011 04:34 PM, Grant wrote: Do you know how smtps comes into play? Right now I've got the following uncommented in master.cf: smtp inet n - n - - smtpd smtps inet n - n - - smtpd -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes Sh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread ny6p01
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:15:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote: > > > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for > > beginners! > > Because Gentoo is not for beginners, there are already plenty of distros, > like Mand

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Indi
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:02PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote: > > I guess, if Gentoo is required to be learned first and that's why it > is not so popular like Ubuntu and lag far behind than it. When I asked > a stranger do you know about Computers? He says, no but I know what it > is. Then I asked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Indi
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:00:03PM +0100, LinuxIsOne wrote: > > However, Getoo could be great (I really don't know) but installing > Ubuntu is working like a charm (I still don't know anything in Linux!) > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for > beginners! It is typi

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Grant
>> Got it.  Your explanations are positively lucid. >> >> I added this to /etc/postifx/main.cf: >> >> postscreen_greet_action = enforce >> postscreen_pipelining_enable = yes >> postscreen_pipelining_action = enforce >> postscreen_non_smtp_command_enable = yes >> postscreen_non_smtp_command_action =

Re: [gentoo-user] zeitgeist in Gnome 3

2011-12-06 Thread Aljosha Papsch
Am Dienstag, den 06.12.2011, 19:22 +0100 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 2011-12-06 17:59, schrieb Aljosha Papsch: > > > Applications need to support zeitgeist. If an application do not > > support it (Thunderbird most certainly doesn't), files and > > activities simply don't get recorded. For

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/06/11 11:32, Grant wrote: >> >> Got it.  Your explanations are positively lucid. >> >> I added this to /etc/postifx/main.cf: >> >> postscreen_greet_action = enforce >> postscreen_pipelining_enable = yes >> postscreen_pipelining_actio

Re: [gentoo-user] zeitgeist in Gnome 3

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-12-06 17:59, schrieb Aljosha Papsch: > Applications need to support zeitgeist. If an application do not > support it (Thunderbird most certainly doesn't), files and > activities simply don't get recorded. For example, opening files in > Nautilus will track opened files but doing something

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installing Gentoo: Grub, alternate GNU/Linux system on another partition

2011-12-06 Thread Sebastian Beßler
On 05.12.2011 22:58, Grant Edwards wrote: >> Grub can chainload any bootloader that's visible to BIOS. At minimum, >> that means you could have grub on /dev/sda I have a setting with three bootloaders chained. First Grub2 who boots Gentoo or the Windows XP bootloader. The Windows Bootloader has t

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/06/11 11:32, Grant wrote: > > Got it. Your explanations are positively lucid. > > I added this to /etc/postifx/main.cf: > > postscreen_greet_action = enforce > postscreen_pipelining_enable = yes > postscreen_pipelining_action = enforce > postscreen_non_smtp_command_enable = yes > postscre

Re: [gentoo-user] zeitgeist in Gnome 3

2011-12-06 Thread Aljosha Papsch
Am Dienstag, den 06.12.2011, 17:16 +0100 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Anyone using that? > > I see three pkgs in portage: > > dev-libs/libzeitgeist > gnome-extra/zeitgeist > gnome-extra/zeitgeist-datahub > > This allows me to use this extension: > > https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/33/

Re: [gentoo-user] Configure xorg Failed

2011-12-06 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
Xorg is complaining that it couldn't open IPv6 sockets. Xorg uses sockets to handle the clients, that's what makes it work with remote clients. I'd guess that you tried to built a no-network box, but Xorg need sockets. It doesn't make much sense in a Gentoo world, but it was worth trying. Another

Re: [gentoo-user] clamav and spamassassin

2011-12-06 Thread Grant
>> What about trouble with the DNSBL lists?  I know when I changed my IP >> address I had to work to get the new one removed from a few blacklists >> it had previously been placed on.  I wasn't sending spam, but my >> messages would have been blocked under that config if I hadn't done >> the work t

[gentoo-user] zeitgeist in Gnome 3

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Anyone using that? I see three pkgs in portage: dev-libs/libzeitgeist gnome-extra/zeitgeist gnome-extra/zeitgeist-datahub This allows me to use this extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/33/jump-lists/ but afai see it only works with libreoffice right now, but not with other appli

Re: [gentoo-user] Listing applications with eix...

2011-12-06 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
Bill Longman wrote: is there a way to list all -- for exmaple -- audio related applications without without being burried under audio related system libs for example or entries with (also as an exmaple) "this application does not supprt audio but only imageing" I want the ful

Re: [gentoo-user] Listing applications with eix...

2011-12-06 Thread Bill Longman
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 2:14 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to list all -- for exmaple -- audio related > applications without without being burried under audio related > system libs for example or entries with (also as an exmaple) > "this application does not supprt audio but only imageing"

Re: [gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ?

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 06.12.2011 14:05, schrieb Albert W. Hopkins: > I too have an R61... was happy that it came preinstalled with Linux > (albeit SuSe Linux) and the general experience with it has been > rather pleasant. It was my first ThinkPad and what got me "hooked" > on them. Same here, yes ... > Earlier

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Philip Webb
111206 LinuxIsOne wrote: > Then I asked him of ... Gentoo & he says: Is it a country? No, it's a miniature penguin (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, Univers

Re: [gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ?

2011-12-06 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 13:29 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I have an offer to sell my Lenovo ThinkPad R61 (Intel Core2Duo T8100). > > I am rather happy with that notebook, after having upgraded RAM, SSD and > a new batterypack. > > The opportunity to get some money for it instead of using i

Re: [gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ?

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 06.12.2011 13:29, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > That's about it for a first thought. second thought: I'd like it to be cheaper than ~1000 EUR So those big irons fall out of choice. S

[gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ?

2011-12-06 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I have an offer to sell my Lenovo ThinkPad R61 (Intel Core2Duo T8100). I am rather happy with that notebook, after having upgraded RAM, SSD and a new batterypack. The opportunity to get some money for it instead of using it until it isn't worth anything anymore makes me look for a new thinkpad.

[gentoo-user] Re: Gnupg 2 and BZIP2 preference

2011-12-06 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 06.12.2011 11:18, schrieb Samuraiii: > few times my bzip2 flag is set from installation of systemabd since then > I needed gpg 1.4 one time so I needed emrege it (downgrading gpg 2) and > then again upgrading it back and then I even tried (few times) to emrege > gpg (for rebuilding) because of

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo: Grub, alternate GNU/Linux system on another partition

2011-12-06 Thread Stroller
On 5 December 2011, at 23:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: > ... > I wouldn't bother, Mint already has Grub2, which makes adding extra > distros a piece of cake. Install Gentoo, without a bootloader, reboot > into Mint and run "sudo grub-update". This one. Everyone else who is replying is part of a cons

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:54:22 -0500, LinuxIsOne wrote: > But I don't know why the creators of Gentoo made it so difficult for > beginners! Because Gentoo is not for beginners, there are already plenty of distros, like Mandriva and Ubuntu, catering for first time users. Gentoo is a "power users" dis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Mick wrote: > I do however run it on my 1998 vintage Pentium 3 laptop and before that on a > Pentium 3 Coppermine.  KDE is sluggish and rebuilding KDE takes a day or so. > That's why I don't run a full KDE ...  ;p  Only some KDE apps on e17. However, Getoo could b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse

2011-12-06 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Mick wrote: > I no longer run Gentoo on my Pentium IBM laptop - let's face it with 72M RAM > even fluxbox was a bit sluggish!  Ha! ;)- > I do however run it on my 1998 vintage Pentium 3 laptop and before that on a > Pentium 3 Coppermine.  KDE is sluggish and rebu

[gentoo-user] «-»: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] «-»: [gentoo-user] Gnupg 2 and BZIP2 preference

2011-12-06 Thread Samuraiii
few times my bzip2 flag is set from installation of systemabd since then I needed gpg 1.4 one time so I needed emrege it  (downgrading gpg 2) and then again upgrading it back and then I even tried (few times) to emrege gpg (for rebuilding) because of this p