[gentoo-user] Re: ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/20/2011 05:43 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. What is another main server of the kernel sources and not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? https://github.com/torvalds/linux

[gentoo-user] Confuzzled about bug severity

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
I've filed two bug reports today[1][2]. Now, when filing bugs, the dropdown for 'severity' includes "Critical: The software crashes, hangs, or causes you to lose data." One bug did cause data loss (a configuration wipe; I'm now amused I can use the bugtracker as a backup), and both bugs are indica

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 20, 2011 9:51 AM, "Adam Carter" wrote: > > > for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and > > it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. > > > > What is another main server of the kernel sources and > > not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? > > kernel.org was h4xor'd - I

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread Adam Carter
> for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and > it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. > > What is another main server of the kernel sources and > not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? kernel.org was h4xor'd - I assume they're bring ftp back when http comes back. IIRC Lin

[gentoo-user] ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. What is another main server of the kernel sources and not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? Best regards, mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Indi
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael > > > Schreckenbauer: > > > > O

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't even have to run a > daemon or server. Just playing music. Or mpg321 or mpg123, both of which are commandline programs. -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 20, 2011 3:03 AM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all > > > that would be possible. > > > > > > > Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like NetApp or HDS :-) > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 19 September 2011 16:49:55 David W Noon wrote: > > > I hope this has explained why we should take messages about running > > "revdep-rebuild --library libXXX" seriously. > > Well, you have me convinced. I had assumed that a bland revdep-rebuild would > catch

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > > you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card does not do > > hardware mixing (onboard sound doesn't) you are using dmix. > > Ah. As I said, I hadn't poked or researched dmix since I read about it > in LinuxJournal. Pretty sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Monday, 19. September 2011 13:52:26 Mark Knecht wrote: > >> /lib64/libncurses.so.5 & /lib64/libncurses.so.6 could both exist on >> the system even if both version of the ncurses package don't. > > That's right. But keep in mind,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:46:33 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:12:57 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 > > > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > But it is a web-browser, that runs on classic amiga os and I > > > > really think, tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 13:52:26 Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > >>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> >

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/18/2011 11:10 PM, walt wrote: I just did a routine update on my ~amd64 machine and saw the portage warning that libpng14 has been replaced by libpng15, and I should run revdep-rebuild --library '/usr/lib/libpng14.so' and then delete the obsolete library. Oh crap. I somehow missed that (a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 19 September 2011 16:49:55 David W Noon wrote: > I hope this has explained why we should take messages about running > "revdep-rebuild --library libXXX" seriously. Well, you have me convinced. I had assumed that a bland revdep-rebuild would catch everything including the library specif

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> ajglap gottlieb # revdep-rebuild; revdep-rebuild --library

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:12:57 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 > > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > But it is a web-browser, that runs on classic amiga os and I really > > > think, that it can display http://www.gentoo.org just fine. > > > > so can lynx. Does

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:20:30 schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400 > > Michael Mol wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > > > wrote: > > > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: > > >> I recall reading about dmix i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >>> ajglap gottlieb # revdep-rebuild; revdep-rebuild --library >>> '/usr/lib64/libpng14.so.14' > >> >> Is there no automated w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> ajglap gottlieb # revdep-rebuild; revdep-rebuild --library >> '/usr/lib64/libpng14.so.14' > > Is there no automated way to catch these? --library expects an > argument; how do I kno

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> When revdep-rebuild --library is suggested should we run it >> before or after the ordinary revdep-rebuild that we typically >> run after each update world? > > I think you should run it with --l

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400 > Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> wrote: >> > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: >> > >> >> I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJourna

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with php_value in apache

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:16:53 -0300 Naira Kaieski wrote: > Hi, > > Since my last gentoo update, my directives php_value and > php_admin_value in Apache configuration file don't work. > > I has > > www-servers/apache-2.2.20 [2.2.17] > dev-lang/php-5.3.8 [5.3.6] > > In some of my virtual host i

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:06:18 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > FWIW, PulseAudio predates Windows Vista, Windows 7, even MacOS X. I > > ran it on a 200MHz machine back when it was called Enlightenment > > Sound Daemon. > > Pulseaudio was meant to be a drop in replacement for ESD but AFAIK >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: > > > >> I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't > >> think I ever got around to settin

[gentoo-user] Problem with php_value in apache

2011-09-19 Thread Naira Kaieski
Hi, Since my last gentoo update, my directives php_value and php_admin_value in Apache configuration file don't work. I has www-servers/apache-2.2.20 [2.2.17] dev-lang/php-5.3.8 [5.3.6] In some of my virtual host i have a especific configuration for charset of php and charset of my conectio

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > But it is a web-browser, that runs on classic amiga os and I really > > think, that it can display http://www.gentoo.org just fine. > > so can lynx. Does it make it usefull with todays internet? There are > more pages than just

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > > I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all > > that would be possible. > > > > Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like NetApp or HDS :-) I have those options too. But the team that runs the SAN charges and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread pk
On 2011-09-19 16:22, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Try run a browser on that Amiga. I doubt it would even manage to > display the Gentoo logo at http://www.gentoo.org. Actually, I used Mosaic to surf the web and then moved on to a browser called IBrowse (then Voyager...). Worked like a charm (esp. consi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > When revdep-rebuild --library is suggested should we run it > before or after the ordinary revdep-rebuild that we typically > run after each update world? I think you should run it with --library first. There exists the possiblity that --l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: >> On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: >> > > On Monday, 19

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: > >> I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't >> think I ever got around to setting it up; > > you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 19:43:50 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > > > > On Mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> OK.  But the claim was that: if >>   revdep-rebuild >> with no argument found nothing to build, then >>   revdep-rebuild --library >> will find nothing. > > I think what everyone (except Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > On Mon, 19 S

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: > I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't > think I ever got around to setting it up; you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card does not do hardware mixing (onboard sound doesn't) you are using dm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 > > > > > > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > > > The 17/09

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> >> wrote: >> > Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk: >> > again, if it you say 'it must be bad becaus

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:21:08 schrieb Paul Colquhoun: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:31:56 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern > > parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it. > > > > Many of us actually like the mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: > On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 > > > > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > > The 17/09/11, pk wrote: > > > > dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run X

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:52:16 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, pk wrote: > > I think you need to take a closer look; it does support a lot of > > "modern" parts of the "stack" (as you call it); it's just focused on the > > things that matters (for an embedded system

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk: > > again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you > > can disregard all software ever writ

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 18:55:01 schrieb pk: > On 2011-09-18 14:56, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > And he's using Audacious - a fork of a gigantic bug nest (mms) . > > According to his earlier post, it forces dbus to run. > > Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a > wh

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:23 PM, pk wrote: > On 2011-09-18 21:52, Michael Mol wrote: > >> The kernel configuration process is actually very nice and very easy. >> You an remove any features you don't want or need. (I'm referring to, >> e.g. menuconfig. I haven't really used genkernel) > > I've ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread covici
Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> >> > revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library > >> >> > checks just some things. >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread pk
On 2011-09-18 21:52, Michael Mol wrote: > The kernel configuration process is actually very nice and very easy. > You an remove any features you don't want or need. (I'm referring to, > e.g. menuconfig. I haven't really used genkernel) I've never used genkernel and always compile my own kernels..

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Chromium

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, András Csányi wrote: >> Dear All! >> >> I think Google Chrome/Chromium is an excellent browser and I have been >> using it for a year or more. But there is one issue which is >> disturbing me and I would like

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Chromium

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, András Csányi wrote: > Dear All! > > I think Google Chrome/Chromium is an excellent browser and I have been > using it for a year or more. But there is one issue which is > disturbing me and I would like to know what is your experience. Maybe a different problem t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:10:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:06:30 -0700 > walt wrote: [snip] > > I don't skip the --library step any more. > > That's odd behaviour, I wonder what caused the difference. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > OK.  But the claim was that: if >   revdep-rebuild > with no argument found nothing to build, then >   revdep-rebuild --library > will find nothing. I think what everyone (except Michael S) seems to be confused about is: Normal revdep-reb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 17:28:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:58:52 -0400 > > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > First one emerges *broken* packages. > > > Second one emerge packages *using* png14 (not necessarily broken) > > > > OK. But the claim was that: if > > > >revdep

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 10:07 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > My preference is to get rid of this whole artifical > disk/block-device/partition/pv/vg/lv nonsense and have one layer that > does it all. I really don't see the point in persisting with keeping > knowledge of distinct disks all the way through

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 10:05 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, > > > mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. > > > > > > Use RAID for that instead and leave L

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:23:23 +0100 Datty wrote: > Thanks for the reply, I have looked at the document but unfortunately > I can't use Nouveau because I need 3d so I went for what I could use. > I've dropped uvesafb totally as it was pretty much useless anyway. It > has sort of helped a little, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:58:52 -0400 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > First one emerges *broken* packages. > > Second one emerge packages *using* png14 (not necessarily broken) > > OK. But the claim was that: if >revdep-rebuild > with no argument found nothing to build, then >revdep-rebuild --

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Datty
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday 19 Sep 2011 09:05:21 Datty wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been having a few problems with my gentoo install mainly on boot > where > > my screen will be blank when starting X. X is definitely working in the > > background because I can lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:58:52 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > > On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> >> > revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to GLSA?

2011-09-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 17.09.2011 15:13, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:17:56 +0200 > Florian Philipp wrote: > >> Hi list! >> >> Since GLSAs are in their current state of disregard, I'm searching for >> another way to be informed about security fixes. What do you think is >> the best approach here?

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread walt
On 09/19/2011 07:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:06:30 -0700 > walt wrote: > >> On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 01:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 >>> Allan Gottlieb wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 18 2011, walt wrote: > I just did a routine

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library >> >> > checks just some things. >> >> > >> >> > ebuilds sometimes issu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 > > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > The 17/09/11, pk wrote: > > > dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run Xfce4 (I am > > > thinking of installing something else due to it's becoming bloate

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> > revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library >>> > checks just some things. >>> > >>> > ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check just the libraries known >>> > to have been upda

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library > >> > checks just some things. > >> > > >> > ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check just the libraries known > >> > to have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 17/09/11, pk wrote: > > > dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run Xfce4 (I am > > thinking of installing something else due to it's becoming bloated > > just like gnome). And I have "-dbus" in my global make.conf. >

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:55:19 +0200 Joost Roeleveld wrote: > My personal preference would be option 1 as I agree with Alan that > LVM should stick to managing LVs and leave striping and other options > to RAID- devices/software. My preference is to get rid of this whole artifical disk/block-devic

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> > LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, >> > mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. >> > >> > Use RAID for that instead and leave L

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library >> > checks just some things. >> > >> > ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check just the libraries known >> > to have been updated, but a full revdep-rebuild after an update >> > will catch

Re: [gentoo-user] HPLIP plugin file

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:13:32 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: > >> > What printer do you have. I use foo2zjs with a LaserJet 1022 and >> > thought it was the only way, not that it causes me any problems. >> >> I have the LaserJer 1020, foo2zjs used

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > > LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, > > mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. > > > > Use RAID for that instead and leave LVM to do what it's good at - > > managing storage volumes > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:06:30 -0700 walt wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 01:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 > > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Sep 18 2011, walt wrote: > > > > > > > I just did a routine update on my ~amd64 machine and saw the > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Sun, Sep 18 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> I wonder when a routine update world tells you to run >>revdep-rebuild --library >> should you run it before or after the full >>revdep-rebuild >> that we normally run after update

Re: [gentoo-user] how to install from ISO without burning it

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I've been looking around for a way to install gentoo just by plopping > an ISO into a known partition,. > > I'm not getting much from google on this search string: >   install gentoo directly from iso.  Or I should say: > > I've found a couple

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:26:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about "Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.": [snip] >LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, >mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. > >Use RAID for that instead and leave

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Mick
On Monday 19 Sep 2011 09:05:21 Datty wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been having a few problems with my gentoo install mainly on boot where > my screen will be blank when starting X. X is definitely working in the > background because I can login blind and hear the login sound. To get it to > work I hav

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread walt
On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 01:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 18 2011, walt wrote: > > > > > I just did a routine update on my ~amd64 machine and saw the portage > > > warning that libpng14 has been replaced by libpng15, an

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 2:29 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not > > because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added. > > Plus there's the possibility that t

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday, September 19, 2011 03:01:32 AM Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 > > > > Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not > >> because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added. > >> Plu

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:01:32 -0500 Dale wrote: > >> I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not > >> because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs > >> added. Plus there's the possibility that the second PV has a > >> different size. > >> > >> I might be wron

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Thanasis
on 09/19/2011 11:01 AM Dale wrote the following: > What I was thinking about is this. You have two drives that is one lv. > It has to be data stored on both drives at some point. Example, you > have a data base that is 500Gbs. You have two drives that are 300Gbs > each that are in the same lv.

Re: [gentoo-user] HPLIP plugin file

2011-09-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:13:32 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: > > What printer do you have. I use foo2zjs with a LaserJet 1022 and > > thought it was the only way, not that it causes me any problems. > > I have the LaserJer 1020, foo2zjs used to be the only way to print for > me, too; by chance, I wa

[gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 17/09/11, pk wrote: > dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run Xfce4 (I am > thinking of installing something else due to it's becoming bloated just > like gnome). And I have "-dbus" in my global make.conf. > > PS. I am quite astonished at the fact that I have a computer that is

[gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Datty
Hi all, I've been having a few problems with my gentoo install mainly on boot where my screen will be blank when starting X. X is definitely working in the background because I can login blind and hear the login sound. To get it to work I have to continually switch between ttys until it decides to

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, "Dale" wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote: Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? I'm just thinking it would dependin

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> > >> On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote: > >> > >> > >> > Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? > >> > I'm > >> > >> > just