[gentoo-user] Fails to login with no network connected/setup

2010-11-17 Thread William Kenworthy
I am having problems logging into a laptop (gdm) after its moved to a new network. Its fine once its setup on the network in question, but if I hibernate it then resume with it either not connected at all, or connected to a new network (but not configured for it) it takes so long to login to X via

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 2:35:41 am Alan McKinnon wrote: > You must also delete the old slocate.db as you do not know for certain > whether it does or does not affect the initial run of mlocate's updatedb yea i did .. forgot to mention > Not at all weird. The db is probably less than 100M. It's pr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 18/11/2010, at 3:59am, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-11-18, Stroller wrote: >> >> On 18/11/2010, at 1:46am, Grant Edwards wrote: ... Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. >>> >>> Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 18/11/2010, at 12:43am, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:00:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > >> If you then mentioned that their defaults broke Dale's setup, they'd >> likely answer "Who's Dale?" followed shortly by "None of us have >> hardware like Dale to test. Sorry 'bout t

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends "emerge" text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 18/11/2010, at 12:20am, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:41:45PM +, Stroller wrote > >> It's probably fixed in one of the updates! Why are you posting before >> you checked that!?!? > > It started happening suddenly And yes, I did search bugzilla, > although I admit my se

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread Dale
James wrote: so what does new fstab using disk labels look like? << SNIP>> Discussion, corrections or caveats are most welcome. This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 LABEL=root /reiserfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-18, Stroller wrote: On 18/11/2010, at 1:46am, Grant Edwards wrote: ... Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the devs do. Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Yes, i

[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-18, Stroller wrote: > > On 18/11/2010, at 1:46am, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> ... >>> Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what >>> the >>> devs do. >> >> Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? > > Yes, if you're patient he'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 18/11/2010, at 1:46am, Grant Edwards wrote: >> ... >> Looks like the *actual* problem is non-application of OYFEAL[1],not what the >> devs do. > > Google doesn't seem to know what OYFEAL means. Do we get any hints? Yes, if you're patient he'll give you [1].

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread Xi Shen
You better try the liveCD or liveDVD. They have more drivers, better chance to hit. Regards, David Shen On Nov 17, 2010, at 17:25, Joseph wrote: > On 11/17/10 16:37, walt wrote: > [snip] >>> OK I've tried as you suggested, http://www.sysresccd.org/ and it works OK. >>> When I boot I have netwo

[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-18, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 02:43 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Walter > Dnes did opine thusly: > >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:00:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote >> >> > If you then mentioned that their defaults broke Dale's setup, they'd >> > likely an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread Joseph
On 11/17/10 16:37, walt wrote: [snip] OK I've tried as you suggested, http://www.sysresccd.org/ and it works OK. When I boot I have network eth0 and it loads driver forcedeth I've compiled the same driver into my current kernel but there is no eth0 Does dmesg say anything about forcedeth or et

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:43 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:00:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > > If you then mentioned that their defaults broke Dale's setup, they'd > > likely answer "Who's Dale?" followed shortly by "None o

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends "emerge" text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:20 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: > Because I don't want a repeat of the ipv6 fiasco where I had an almost > non-functional browser, mediaplayer (for internet files), etc, etc. And > I also had to run "emerge --newuse --update wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:00:48AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > If you then mentioned that their defaults broke Dale's setup, they'd > likely answer "Who's Dale?" followed shortly by "None of us have > hardware like Dale to test. Sorry 'bout that. Set USE=-hal" Of course the USE flag advice is

[gentoo-user] Re: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread walt
On 11/17/2010 09:35 AM, Joseph wrote: On 11/17/10 13:57, Stroller wrote: http://www.sysresccd.org/ I've tried Gentoo ISO first. I've downloaded the latest minimal AMD64 ISO and they will not boot my AMD Athlon 64 processor 3800 (the below ISO boot my other box OK). The other box has a dif

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends "emerge" text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-17 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 01:41:45PM +, Stroller wrote > It's probably fixed in one of the updates! Why are you posting before > you checked that!?!? It started happening suddenly And yes, I did search bugzilla, although I admit my searches aren't always perfect. And if "emerge --sync" out

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:03 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Adam Carter did opine thusly: > > > find /patch -name something -exec -ls -lS + > > > which runs ls -lS once against all the files that find finds (added as > > > additional arguments), and therefore Sort works. > > > > Almost r

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications

2010-11-17 Thread BRM
- Original Message > From: Florian Philipp > To: Gentoo User List > Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 5:08:33 PM > Subject: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications > > Hi list! > > Today, KDE nearly killed a presentation I held and now I want to > understand what's goi

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Adam Carter
> > find /patch -name something -exec -ls -lS + > > which runs ls -lS once against all the files that find finds (added as > > additional arguments), and therefore Sort works. > > Almost right. > > -exec + will not append all filenames found and run one command, > > it will append the maximum numbe

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:49 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Adam Carter did opine thusly: > I wasnt familiar with + but it changes the default behavior of this; > find /path -name something -exec ls -lS {} \; > which will run ls -lS once for each file, and therefore Sort doesnt work as >

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Adam Carter
I wasnt familiar with + but it changes the default behavior of this; find /path -name something -exec ls -lS {} \; which will run ls -lS once for each file, and therefore Sort doesnt work as its only sorting a single file find /patch -name something -exec -ls -lS + which runs ls -lS once against a

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:26 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: > > Conclusions: > > > > > > 1. mlocate is slow at building it's db from scratch - about 250% as long > > as slocate on the same task. > > 2. mlocate is faster at reindexing a largely-unchanged fs - it doe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:18 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Grant Edwards did opine thusly: > > No, but they generally set the USE defaults to give the same settings > > as running ./configure with none. In other words, they are following > > the upstream defaults. > > We seem to be goi

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications

2010-11-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 17.11.2010 23:26, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > Apparently, though unproven, at 00:08 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Florian > Philipp did opine thusly: > >> Hi list! >> >> Today, KDE nearly killed a presentation I held and now I want to >> understand what's going on: >> >> Following setup: One lapt

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 17.11.2010 22:59, schrieb James: > Hello, > > I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T > Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. > [...] > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 16405514481317 HPFS

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 21:55:28 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:00 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Paul > > Hartman did opine thusly: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Mick wrote: > > > Why is the second time so much faster? The size of the derived db was > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:08 on Thursday 18 November 2010, Florian Philipp did opine thusly: > Hi list! > > Today, KDE nearly killed a presentation I held and now I want to > understand what's going on: > > Following setup: One laptop, two outputs (internal display + projector). > > N

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James did opine thusly: > Hello, > > I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T > Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. > > old disk: > > Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes > 255 heads, 63

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 17.11.2010 23:14, schrieb John Campbell: On 11/17/2010 05:13 AM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 17.11.2010 13:54, schrieb Albert Hopkins: On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:52 +0100, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Joerg Schilling: This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years.

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread John Campbell
On 11/17/2010 05:13 AM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 17.11.2010 13:54, schrieb Albert Hopkins: >> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:52 +0100, Sebastian Beßler wrote: >>> Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Joerg Schilling: >>> This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. >>> >>> Could you enlighten me abou

[gentoo-user] KDE-4 multi-monitor + fullscreen applications

2010-11-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! Today, KDE nearly killed a presentation I held and now I want to understand what's going on: Following setup: One laptop, two outputs (internal display + projector). Now I configure KDE to expand the desktop on both (instead of simple cloning). So far, so good. First question: How does

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Dale
Gary Golden wrote: On 11/17/2010 02:19 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:25:02 +0500, Gary Golden wrote: When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 How I can install pppd 2.4

[gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-17 Thread James
Hello, I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. old disk: Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 5

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:00 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Mick wrote: > > Why is the second time so much faster? The size of the derived db was > > the same on both occasions. > > I guess caching like Volker said to

[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:48:30 +, David W Noon wrote: > >> >Surely what `./configure` does if I don't make any choice about its >> >compilation option is to be considered a "default"? >> >> Gentoo ebuilds do not run ./configure without options, unless the

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 20:10:54 Yohan Pereira wrote: > On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 1:17:09 am Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Let's compare then. My system is 4 minutes to re-index everything from > > scratch. How long does your take and how big is your filesystem? > > time updatedb > real1m35.163

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 17 November 2010, Yohan Pereira wrote: > On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 1:17:09 am Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Let's compare then. My system is 4 minutes to re-index everything from > > scratch. How long does your take and how big is your filesystem? > > time updatedb > real1m35.163s > user

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:10 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Yohan Pereira did opine thusly: > On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 1:17:09 am Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Let's compare then. My system is 4 minutes to re-index everything from > > scratch. How long does your take and how big is your filesy

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 20:10:54 Yohan Pereira wrote: >> On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 1:17:09 am Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > Let's compare then. My system is 4 minutes to re-index everything from >> > scratch. How long does your take and how big is you

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 2:05:55 am Mick wrote: > Why is the second time so much faster? The size of the derived db was the > same on both occasions. ok as Volker it uses cache. try deleting mlocate.db .. reboot and then run updatedb it will take as long as it did the first time. -- - Yohan P

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 17 November 2010, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 20:10:54 Yohan Pereira wrote: > > On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 1:17:09 am Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Let's compare then. My system is 4 minutes to re-index everything from > > > scratch. How long does your take and how big is you

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Thursday 18 Nov 2010 1:17:09 am Alan McKinnon wrote: > Let's compare then. My system is 4 minutes to re-index everything from > scratch. How long does your take and how big is your filesystem? time updatedb real1m35.163s user0m0.815s sys 0m2.454s this was the first time i ran it

Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:12 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Philip Webb did opine thusly: > Some time ago, I removed Hal from my system with no problems. > While adding 'mlocate' to /etc/group today, > I noticed that many entries still have 'haldaemon' included. > Is it safe to delete

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:48:30 +, David W Noon wrote: > >Surely what `./configure` does if I don't make any choice about its > >compilation option is to be considered a "default"? > > Gentoo ebuilds do not run ./configure without options, unless there are > no options available. No, but they

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:00:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > However Mick and myself were expressing surprise at the speed of > > mlocate's *first* run, when no mlocate.db would be existent. It took ten minutes on a first run on the one box I timed it on. > unmerging slocate does not remove sl

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:55 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: > On 17/11/2010, at 6:00pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > ... > > unmerging slocate does not remove slocate.db as he build didn't put it > > there. When mlocate first runs, it might be checking so slocate.d

[gentoo-user] haldaemon

2010-11-17 Thread Philip Webb
Some time ago, I removed Hal from my system with no problems. While adding 'mlocate' to /etc/group today, I noticed that many entries still have 'haldaemon' included. Is it safe to delete these ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 6:00pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: > ... > unmerging slocate does not remove slocate.db as he build didn't put it there. > When mlocate first runs, it might be checking so slocate.db if mlocate.db > doesn't exist, and use that for the initial db. I deleted everything slocate related

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread Joseph
On 11/17/10 00:56, Dale wrote: It appears udev is renaming the network card so I would check the udev rules. They are usually in /etc/udev/rules.d and I think it starts from the higher numbers and works its way down. I'm not much of a expert on udev. Dale :-) :-) You are correct previous

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:44 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, walt did opine thusly: > On 11/16/2010 04:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 01:20 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, walt > > did > > > > opine thusly: > >> On 11/16/2010 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:29 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: > On 17/11/2010, at 3:07pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> ... > >> Just ran updatedb with mlocate and it was blindingly fast! Is that > >> normal or did it not run and tricked me! ;-) > > > > /usr/share

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread Joseph
On 11/17/10 13:57, Stroller wrote: On 17/11/2010, at 6:56am, Dale wrote: ... So now system boots but I can not seem to the network card going. On the "lspci -k" I think you mean lspci -nn (there is no switch -k) ... The man page shows a -k switch here so maybe what you are booting has a older

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X crashing

2010-11-17 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 17/11/2010 18:07, walt a écrit : On 11/17/2010 07:17 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I use an astronomical open source imaging software (http://www.audela.org/) which works fine except when launching a tcl photometry script (Calaphot). X crashes with the error message : X Error of fai

[gentoo-user] Re: X crashing

2010-11-17 Thread walt
On 11/17/2010 07:17 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I use an astronomical open source imaging software (http://www.audela.org/) which works fine except when launching a tcl photometry script (Calaphot). X crashes with the error message : X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid paramete

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:00:01 +0100, Stroller wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: [snip] >Surely what `./configure` does if I don't make any choice about its >compilation option is to be considered a "default"? Gentoo ebuilds do not run ./configure

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:40:02 +0100, Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?: >On 2010-11-16, David W Noon wrote: > >> Again, the defaults are chosen for stability with Gentoo first; >> secondly, there are no fixed defaults -- or "out-of-box"

[gentoo-user] Re: bind-9.7.1_p2 does not want to stop...

2010-11-17 Thread walt
On 11/16/2010 04:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:20 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, walt did opine thusly: On 11/16/2010 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > ... For an auth server, powerdns is very good... By 'auth' do you mean something like DNSSEC? If not, w

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 3:07pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> ... >> Just ran updatedb with mlocate and it was blindingly fast! Is that >> normal or did it not run and tricked me! ;-) > > /usr/share/doc/mlocate-0.23.1/README.bz2 > > Why do so many people ask questions without reading the docs FIRST? I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] X crashing

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 3:33pm, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> I use an astronomical open source imaging software > just a shot in the dark: O˛O

Re: [gentoo-user] X crashing

2010-11-17 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 17/11/2010 16:33, meino.cra...@gmx.de a écrit : > Jacques Montier [10-11-17 16:20]: >> Hi all, >> >> I use an astronomical open source imaging software (http://www.audela.org/) >> which works fine except when launching a tcl photometry script (Calaphot). >> X crashes with the error message : >>

Re: [gentoo-user] X crashing

2010-11-17 Thread meino . cramer
Jacques Montier [10-11-17 16:20]: > Hi all, > > I use an astronomical open source imaging software (http://www.audela.org/) > which works fine except when launching a tcl photometry script (Calaphot). > X crashes with the error message : > > X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid paramete

[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-16, David W Noon wrote: > Again, the defaults are chosen for stability with Gentoo first; > secondly, there are no fixed defaults -- or "out-of-box" configuration > -- from upstream, If that's true, then it is the developers rather than "upstream" that decided to use HAL for Xorg conf

[gentoo-user] X crashing

2010-11-17 Thread Jacques Montier
Hi all, I use an astronomical open source imaging software (http://www.audela.org/) which works fine except when launching a tcl photometry script (Calaphot). X crashes with the error message : X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request:

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:44 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: > On 17 November 2010 14:00, Stroller wrote: > > On 17/11/2010, at 11:31am, Eric Chatellier wrote: > >> Le 17/11/2010 12:30, Jacques Montier a écrit : > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> slocate is now masked and

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 2:44pm, Mick wrote: >> ... >> I did this the other day. It fixes the large files problem on 32-bit. :D >> >> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/183485 >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280620 >> >> :D > > Just ran updatedb with mlocate and it was blindin

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Mick
On 17 November 2010 14:00, Stroller wrote: > > On 17/11/2010, at 11:31am, Eric Chatellier wrote: >> Le 17/11/2010 12:30, Jacques Montier a écrit : >>> Hi all, >>> >>> slocate is now masked and will be removed. >>> As i often used locate to easily find packages, what else could i run ? >>> Thank yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread Joseph
On 11/17/10 13:57, Stroller wrote: On 17/11/2010, at 6:56am, Dale wrote: ... So now system boots but I can not seem to the network card going. On the "lspci -k" I think you mean lspci -nn (there is no switch -k) ... The man page shows a -k switch here so maybe what you are booting has a older

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 12:58am, Grant wrote: > I was having trouble getting g-cpan to work with a Bundle of CPAN perl > modules and I got frustrated and started to install it with perl > -MCPAN -e instead. The state of g-cpan really is a shame. :( When I bought a lottery ticket the other week, I det

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 1:13pm, Sebastian Beßler wrote: This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. >>> >>> Could you enlighten me about this? >>> I look into man find but it says nothing about -exec + or a + operator >>> at all. Also adding + to the command doesn't work either. >> >> Which m

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:13 +0100, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 17.11.2010 13:54, schrieb Albert Hopkins: > > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:52 +0100, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > >> Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Joerg Schilling: > >> > >>> This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. > >> > >> Could you

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 11:31am, Eric Chatellier wrote: > Le 17/11/2010 12:30, Jacques Montier a écrit : >> Hi all, >> >> slocate is now masked and will be removed. >> As i often used locate to easily find packages, what else could i run ? >> Thank you for your answers > Just read mask message : > "No

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block (0,0)

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 6:56am, Dale wrote: >> ... >> So now system boots but I can not seem to the network card going. >> On the "lspci -k" I think you mean lspci -nn (there is no switch -k) > ... > The man page shows a -k switch here so maybe what you are booting has a older > version or something.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 16/11/2010, at 10:28pm, David W Noon wrote: > ... > Again, the defaults are chosen for stability with Gentoo first; > secondly, there are no fixed defaults -- or "out-of-box" configuration > -- from upstream, as the USE flags are simply parameterizing > the ./configure script via autotools. I'

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends "emerge" text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-17 Thread Stroller
On 17/11/2010, at 12:25am, Walter Dnes wrote: > I have a main machine and a backup machine. The main machine is 64-bit > and the backup is 32-bit, but otherwise very similar setup. I > haven't updated the backup (32-bit machine) for a while, > ... there are > 151 lines of output in file x and

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 17.11.2010 13:54, schrieb Albert Hopkins: On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:52 +0100, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Joerg Schilling: This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. Could you enlighten me about this? I look into man find but it says nothing about -exec + or a

Re: [gentoo-user] why portage downgrade?

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:30 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: > I currently am using unstable gentoo and have 2.2.0_alpha1. Now if I > obey instructions, portage will be downgraded to 2.1.9.24. I really > prefer the 2.2 series unless something has

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 13:52 +0100, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Joerg Schilling: > > > This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. > > Could you enlighten me about this? > I look into man find but it says nothing about -exec + or a + operator > at all. Also adding +

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Joerg Schilling: This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. Could you enlighten me about this? I look into man find but it says nothing about -exec + or a + operator at all. Also adding + to the command doesn't work either. Greetings Sebastian Beßler

Re: [gentoo-user] why portage downgrade?

2010-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 07:30:01 -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > I currently am using unstable gentoo and have 2.2.0_alpha1. Now if I > obey instructions, portage will be downgraded to 2.1.9.24. I really > prefer the 2.2 series unless something has gone very wrong, why is this > happening and

[gentoo-user] why portage downgrade?

2010-11-17 Thread covici
I currently am using unstable gentoo and have 2.2.0_alpha1. Now if I obey instructions, portage will be downgraded to 2.1.9.24. I really prefer the 2.2 series unless something has gone very wrong, why is this happening and how can I prevent this? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your

[gentoo-user] [OT] some two more rsync questions

2010-11-17 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I have two problems with rsync 1st) if I give both commandline options -u and -c it looks as if a file which is more recent but different on the destination is not updated, i.e. -u overrules -c Is that true? 2nd) There is a symlink A on which refers to a directory On th

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-17 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/17/10 00:01:15, Adam Carter wrote: > > I have an up-to-date ~amd64 GenToo installation with has been > > built on a current AMD64 (Phenom II) machine where I used > > -mtune=native in etc/make.conf since I didn't think of the case > > that I would need to port this system to a somewhat older

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Golden
On 11/17/2010 03:06 PM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:25:02 +0500, Gary Golden wrote: >> >> >>> When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: >>> Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version >>> 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 >>> >>> How I can insta

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Golden
On 11/17/2010 02:19 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:25:02 +0500, Gary Golden wrote: > >> When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: >> Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version >> 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 >> >> How I can install pppd 2.4.5 if portage h

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Golden
On 11/17/2010 01:52 PM, Dale wrote: > Gary Golden wrote: >> When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: >> Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version >> 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 >> >> How I can install pppd 2.4.5 if portage has only net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4 ? >> >> Thanks. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 17/11/2010 12:40, Alan McKinnon a gentiment tapote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Petri > Rosenström did opine thusly: > >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jacques Montier >> >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> slocate is now masked and will be removed. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, Petri Rosenström did opine thusly: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jacques Montier > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > slocate is now masked and will be removed. > > As i often used locate to easily find packages, what else cou

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Eric Chatellier
Le 17/11/2010 12:30, Jacques Montier a écrit : > Hi all, > > slocate is now masked and will be removed. > As i often used locate to easily find packages, what else could i run ? > Thank you for your answers Just read mask message : "No longer developed and replaced by sys-apps/mlocate" -- Éric T

Re: [gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Petri Rosenström
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jacques Montier wrote: > Hi all, > > slocate is now masked and will be removed. > As i often used locate to easily find packages, what else could i run ? > Thank you for your answers, > > cheers, > > > -- > Jacques > Site web

[gentoo-user] slocate masked

2010-11-17 Thread Jacques Montier
Hi all, slocate is now masked and will be removed. As i often used locate to easily find packages, what else could i run ? Thank you for your answers, cheers, -- Jacques Site web

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:25:02 +0500, Gary Golden wrote: When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 How I can install pppd 2.4.5 if portage has only net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4 ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Willie Wong wrote: > So to go through your system looking for all orphaned files, you do > something like > > find / -exec qfile -o '{}' \; > > ... which will produce a load of output that you don't want. So best This is why find -exec + exists since 20 years. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.is

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:25:02 +0500, Gary Golden wrote: > When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: > Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version > 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 > > How I can install pppd 2.4.5 if portage has only net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4 ? As Dale says, 2.4.5 i

Re: [gentoo-user] Crufted with perl modules?

2010-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:18:23 -0800, Grant wrote: > > find / -exec qfile -o  '{}' \; > Thanks Willie, that gave me a great list. Very cool command. Almost > all the orphaned stuff in /usr/lib/perl5 is either in: > > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.2 > > with corresponding but not orphaned conten

Re: [gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Dale
Gary Golden wrote: When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 How I can install pppd 2.4.5 if portage has only net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4 ? Thanks. r...@smoker / # equery list -p ppp * Searching for

[gentoo-user] pppd 2.4.5

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Golden
When trying to contact by VPN nm-applet says: Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.5/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so is for pppd version 2.4.5, this is 2.4.4 How I can install pppd 2.4.5 if portage has only net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4 ? Thanks. -- Gary Golden