RE: was [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 now old nvidia drivers

2009-05-17 Thread Adam Carter
> > For you guys with older hardware/drivers, have you tried > turning on CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS and recompiling the kernel > to see if its helps? (Kernel hacking -> Enable > unused/obsolete exported symbols). > That is a good find. I can't say that it is the problem but > it was not > enabled on

Re: was [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 now old nvidia drivers

2009-05-17 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > For you guys with older hardware/drivers, have you tried turning on > CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS and recompiling the kernel to see if its helps? (Kernel > hacking -> Enable unused/obsolete exported symbols). > > I use it to support vmware server 1.x and ati flgrx drivers (with 2.6

was [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 now old nvidia drivers

2009-05-17 Thread Adam Carter
For you guys with older hardware/drivers, have you tried turning on CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS and recompiling the kernel to see if its helps? (Kernel hacking -> Enable unused/obsolete exported symbols). I use it to support vmware server 1.x and ati flgrx drivers (with 2.6.26 or later kernels). IIRC

Re: [gentoo-user] [solved] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 May 2009 01:49:54 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: > Yes, that's it. Strange, I was under the impression that bdeps was "yes" > by default. Only when using --depclean. -- Neil Bothwick To boldly go where I surely don't belong. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Iliev
My mistake, not a bug. I'm glad I asked here before wasting devs' time with invalid reports. Thanks, guys! :) -- Best regards, Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] [solved] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Dale
Daniel Iliev wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2009 00:36:56 +0200 > Peter Alfredsen wrote: > > >> On Mon, 18 May 2009 01:16:24 +0300 >> Daniel Iliev wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file >>> a report with B.G.O? >>> >>> >>> % emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] [solved] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Mon, 18 May 2009 00:36:56 +0200 Peter Alfredsen wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2009 01:16:24 +0300 > Daniel Iliev wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file > > a report with B.G.O? > > > > > > % emerge -C dev-perl/yaml > [...] > > %

Re: [gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Nick Fortino
Daniel Iliev wrote: > Hi, > > > Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file a > report with B.G.O? > > > % emerge -C dev-perl/yaml > > % emerge --depclean -p > > [-snip-] > > Calculating dependencies... done! > * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to > * t

Re: [gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:30:47 -0400 Jason Weisberger wrote: > From what I see, update newuse deep world is NOT pulling it back in. > That's the bug. > Exactly. -- Best regards, Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Jason Weisberger schrieb am 18.05.2009 00:30: > From what I see, update newuse deep world is NOT pulling it back in. That's > the bug. Okay i should read more carefully. Tried the --with-bdeps option? -- Daniel Pielmeier signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Mon, 18 May 2009 01:16:24 +0300 Daniel Iliev wrote: > > Hi, > > > Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file a > report with B.G.O? > > > % emerge -C dev-perl/yaml [...] > % emerge --update --newuse --deep world > Calculating dependencies... done! > >>> Auto-cl

Re: [gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Jason Weisberger
>From what I see, update newuse deep world is NOT pulling it back in. That's the bug. On May 17, 2009 6:26 PM, "Daniel Pielmeier" wrote: Daniel Iliev schrieb am 18.05.2009 00:16: > Hi, > > > Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file a > report with B What is the p

Re: [gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Daniel Iliev schrieb am 18.05.2009 00:16: > Hi, > > > Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file a > report with B.G.O? > > > % emerge -C dev-perl/yaml > > % emerge --depclean -p > > [-snip-] > > Calculating dependencies... done! > * Dependencies could not be comp

[gentoo-user] portage bug?

2009-05-17 Thread Daniel Iliev
Hi, Would anybody, please, confirm the following behavior before I file a report with B.G.O? % emerge -C dev-perl/yaml % emerge --depclean -p [-snip-] Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not being ins

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 17 Mai 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 03:33:22 pk wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > As I see it, at the bottom of the stack you have a kernel and at the > > > top a user space app (the X server will do for an example). Plug in a > > > USB device that the app can u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > Dale, >As far as I can tell I'm not having any problems. This machine was > using a 2.6.28 kernel up until yesterday when I updated to 2.6.29-r4. > The point I'm trying to make is that this old driver and all the > kernels I have used up to now have all worked. > >I n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote: >>> Dale ha scritto: > I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user > friend

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > >> On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote: >> >>> Dale ha scritto: >>> I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user friendly". I'm about to make a fresh backup and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Dale
bn wrote: > Dale ha scritto: > > >> I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user >> friendly". I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have >> upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia won't >> compile with anything newer that I

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > >> 'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help: >> it's just a list of "Do you want to ... ?" which you can't save easily. >> > > Of course there;s help. Most options give a choice of y/n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote: >> Dale ha scritto: >> > I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user >> > friendly".  I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again.  I have >> > upgraded my kernel to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread bn
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: > On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote: >> Dale ha scritto: >>> I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user >>> friendly". I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have >>> upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. S

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 17 May 2009 19:10:05 bn wrote: > Dale ha scritto: > > I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user > > friendly". I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have > > upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia won't > > compil

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > 'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help: > it's just a list of "Do you want to ... ?" which you can't save easily. Of course there;s help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?. Guess what happens when you press?

Re: [gentoo-user] Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:13:27 +0200, Peter Alfredsen wrote: > As you can see, there are post_ and pre_ phases for all phase functions > which can be used to do fancy stuff like this. Neat! > I prefer /etc/portage/bashrc for this, since these hacks are usually > only needed for a short time, so h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread bn
Dale ha scritto: > I hope someone wins the debate soon and gets this to work and be "user > friendly". I'm about to make a fresh backup and try this again. I have > upgraded my kernel to a really new version, 2.6.25. Sorry, nvidia won't > compile with anything newer that I have tried. Uh? las

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-17 Thread Philip Webb
090517 bn wrote: > What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of > when upgrading to latest kernel? I resume this thread > because I read of things like "/dev/sr0 has disappeared" >> & "You need to enable this to make CONFIG_PATA_JMICRON visible. >> ... THAT's what happened to it !! T

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-17 Thread Sean
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 16:46 +0100, bn wrote: > So, what kind of traps like that should I expect? I expect things like that to have potentially changed with every point release of the 2.6 kernel, since the numbering scheme is practically useless now. Every 2.6.XX release has the potential for majo

Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from kernel 2.6.24-rc6 to latest kernel

2009-05-17 Thread bn
bn ha scritto: > 2) What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of when upgrading > to latest kernel? I confess that reading CHANGELOGs didn't help me too > much, quite confusing. I resume this thread because I read ofthings like that ("/dev/sr0 has disappeared" thread): "> You need to ena

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 17 May 2009 14:15:31 pk wrote: > > But you have that in the current setup. Hal (for better or worse) is the > > daemon. dbus is simply a message transport and can be omitted from the > > conceptual diagram > > Why is dbus needed? Why can't the user space apps talk to the user space > daem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Copying encrypted files from a DVD

2009-05-17 Thread Grant
>> >>> There are still a lot of DVD-Video media that don't use CSS. >> >> >> >> I have certainly cloned region-protected DVDs on a number of >> >> occasions >> >> using `dd`. These disks have given no read errors, and the subsequent >> >> encrypted .iso image has produced perfectly fine rips. >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread pk
Alan McKinnon wrote: > - only Linux has udev. Other OSes may not need, want or be willing to touch > udev with a bargepole. Yes, udev is linux only. Replace udev with whatever is available on other platforms in that diagram. I just used linux as an example... Sorry for not making it clear. > Bu

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with compiling kernel

2009-05-17 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Mick schrieb: Last time this happened to me (more than once), it was because I had selected something in the kernel that I shouldn't have. I had to retrace my steps, removed the offending module and then it compiled and installed fine. I think you are right. Yesterday I had some time to look

Re: [gentoo-user] How to IPSEC "M$oft" VPN client setup

2009-05-17 Thread Mick
On Sunday 17 May 2009, Mick wrote: > Thanks Graham, > > On Saturday 16 May 2009, Graham Murray wrote: > > Here are some samples. > > > > /etc/racoon/racoon.conf > > > > /etc/racoon/psk.txt > > > > /etc/ipsec.conf > > Do I need a /etc/setkey.conf file? How do I create it? > > When I run '/etc/init.

[gentoo-user] Re: Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:42:20 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: I think you can redefine ebuild functions in /etc/portage/env/cat/pkg, so you could out a custom src_unpack() in there. It should work if the ebuild has no src_unoack, so you could do something like src_unpack() {

Re: [gentoo-user] Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:42:20 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > I think you can redefine ebuild functions > in /etc/portage/env/cat/pkg, so you could out a custom src_unpack() > in there. It should work if the ebuild has no src_unoack, so you > could do something like > > src_unpack() { > unpack

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 17 May 2009 03:33:22 pk wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > As I see it, at the bottom of the stack you have a kernel and at the top > > a user space app (the X server will do for an example). Plug in a USB > > device that the app can use, and the kernel needs to make a node in /dev > > for

Re: [gentoo-user] Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:44:19 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Does anyone think that a mechanism of applying patches to a package > without the need to modify the ebuild of that package would be a useful > feature? There are cases of useful patches that are not accepted by > the maintainers of

Re: [gentoo-user] Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Graham Murray
Nikos Chantziaras writes: > What if we could just specify patches to be applied in, say, > /etc/portage/packages.patch with something like: > > media-video/smplayer j-random-hack.patch > > and portage would apply that patch automatically? That way, the > hassle of updating the ebuild of a pack

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 17 May 2009 10:20:33 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> What if we could just specify patches to be applied in, say, > >> /etc/portage/packages.patch with something like: > >> > >> media-video/smplayer j-random-hack.patch ... > >> Can someone think of a way to set up something like thi

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sr0 has disappeared: solved

2009-05-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009 09:18:52 schrieb Philip Webb: > > However, I can't even find it in menuconfig. > > > >> # CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG is not set > > > > As written before: No SG, no write (to CD). > > No, I didn't have it in 2.6.25 & have just blanked a CD without it. > The kernel help recommends 'N

[gentoo-user] Re: Applying patches without needing overlays and modifying ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Does anyone think that a mechanism of applying patches to a package without the need to modify the ebuild of that package would be a useful feature? There are cases of useful patches that are not accepted by the maintainers of the ebuild (because th

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sr0 has disappeared: solved

2009-05-17 Thread Philip Webb
090516 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Samstag, 16. Mai 2009 11:55:18 schrieb Philip Webb: >> I have got 2.6.25 to work again after enabling 'evdev' > evdev is completely unrelated to CD writing. Yes, I know that: it was necessary in order to resurrect 2.6.25 after the big change in Xorg recently: I me