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On Wednesday 04 February 2009 09:27:31 Christopher Walters wrote:
> I will mention that the performance optimizations for Gentoo mainly lie in
> the kernel configuration (the binary distributions compile just about
> everything you can imagine into their kernels), and in fine tuning the USE
> flags
Hi,
having had some problems with recent xorg version my question is
what are the benefits (if any) of building packages with the 'hal'
use flag (i.e. adding 'hal' to US='...' in /etc/make.conf)
Many thanks for your sharing your experience,
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische
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Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:48:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> So all in all, I agree. Using Gentoo is nowadays not so much a matter
>> of performance optimization but of better control of how to build the
> I also get si
On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:48:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> So all in all, I agree. Using Gentoo is nowadays not so much a matter
> of performance optimization but of better control of how to build the
> packages and the rolling release nature (I'm tired of major updates
> every 6 months in
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Dirk Uys wrote:
> Hi
>
> Have anyone else successfully built kde4.2?
>
> Regards
> Dirk
Hi Dirk,
I was able to compile KDE 4.2 successfully with no problems, without using
anything outside of Portage.
What arch are you using? Did you use the ne
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
> Today succesfully installed kde4.2 on amd64.
> I first removed my old KDE completely and then installed it on a clean system.
>
> Only reinstalling the old kde libs for programs that have not yet been ported
> to kde4.2.
>
> Not run into any
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2009-02-04, James wrote:
>> Grant Edwards visi.com> writes:
>>
>>> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's described as a system
>>> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
>>> The main benefit claimed for this app
On 2009-02-04, James wrote:
> Grant Edwards visi.com> writes:
>
>> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's described as a system
>> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
>> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
>> better performance because all execut
On 3 Feb 2009, at 18:35, Momesso Andrea wrote:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:13PM +, Stroller wrote:
On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote:
...
What happens if I decide to switch to the "router" configuration?
If I
have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
>>> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
>>> once in awhile.
>>>
>> Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of package
Hung Dang gmail.com> writes:
Thanks for all of the input!
I got plenty of good information, to
make several purchases.
Googling, I did read about some problems with the
latest drives from plextor, (not verified by me though).
ciao,
James
Grant Edwards visi.com> writes:
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimized for
> exactly th
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Mike Kazantsev wrote:
>
>> And I hate to re-emerge same gcc every time some minor bug (which I
>> didn't happen to reproduce) is fixed.
>
> IKWYM but I think, on balance, this one would have benefited from a bump
> as the effec
Mike Kazantsev wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:21:17 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I can't say I understood what you said, but the majority of ISPs give
clients v4 IPs? Mine for example right now (it's dynamic) is
79.123.149.101. That's the only way to reach me from WAN.
Not quite what I've
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:21:17 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > There is plenty of address space on IPv6. One can set up a tunnel, if
> > ISP doesn't provide it yet.
> > After that, it's as simple as enabling forwarding in kernel and opening
> > a FORWARD chain, and you can have 64+ bits of real
Mike Kazantsev wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:36:55 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Since your ISP offers you the option to have two different IP, yes that
the best choice. Over here I would have to pay quite some money to get
an extra IP. So you're lucky I guess.
There is plenty of address
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:36:55 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Since your ISP offers you the option to have two different IP, yes that
> the best choice. Over here I would have to pay quite some money to get
> an extra IP. So you're lucky I guess.
There is plenty of address space on IPv6. One
Saphirus Sage wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
>> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
>> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
>> better performance because all executables are optimize
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> James wrote:
>> Hello
>> SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit).
>>
>> Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
>> the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
>> would recommend?
>>
>> Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo?
>
> Instead of recommending what I have,
Grant Edwards wrote:
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
better performance because all executables are optimized for
exactly the right instruction se
>> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
>> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
>> once in awhile.
>>
> Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
> that don't need t0 be changed. They won't b
Momesso Andrea wrote:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:13PM +, Stroller wrote:
On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote:
...
What happens if I decide to switch to the "router" configuration? If I
have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone from the
outside will try to c
James wrote:
Hello
SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit).
Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
would recommend?
Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo?
Instead of recommending what I have, I'll recommend what disc burning
lunatics reco
> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
> once in awhile.
>
Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
that don't need t0 be changed. They won't be used
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Dale wrote:
> Grant wrote:
When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
--with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
once in awhile.
>>> Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
Grant Edwards wrote:
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
better performance because all executables are optimized for
exactly the right instruction se
It is not just about higher performance.
The same way you can have higher performance, the same way you can use
less flags and less optimizations for a solid/stable system.
You are just not bounded (most of the times) to fixed choices others
doing for you.
Grant wrote:
>>> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
>>> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
>>> once in awhile.
>>>
>> Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
>> that don't need t0 be changed. They won't
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimized f
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
>>> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
>>> once in awhile.
>>
>> Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
>> that don't need
2009/2/3 Grant Edwards :
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimized for
> exactly the right in
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimiz
Grant Edwards wrote:
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimized for
> exactly the right instru
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> AFAICT, the "performance" benefit due to compiler optimization
> is practically nil in real-world usage.
It used to make a difference, but not anymore with today microprocessors.
> In my experience the huge benefit of source-based distros s
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimized for
> exactly the right instruction set.
More ofte
>> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
>> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
>> once in awhile.
>
> Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
> that don't need t0 be changed. They won't be used again until the
>
Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
better performance because all executables are optimized for
exactly the right instruction set.
Where did that bit
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:32:15 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> When this was asked a few weeks ago someone then asked why
> --with-bdeps Y isn't the default? This seems to burn nearly everyone
> once in awhile.
Because using --with-bdeps y causes unnecessary compilation of packages
that don't need t0 be
Hi had to rebuild all perl related packages as they were compiled with
486 CHOST (not sure how it happenend, maybe wrong stage?¿?)
I found packages:
equery belongs /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i486-linux/
HTH to otehr with same problem... but maybe is better to check wiki for
doc how to change CHOST fl
2009/2/3 James :
> Hello
>
> SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit).
>
> Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
> the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
> would recommend?
>
> Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo?
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
Hi James!
I use LG burners for every pc and I'
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Grant wrote:
> My Gentoo router's wireless network is encrypted via WPA and doesn't
> DHCP. I'd like to take this a step further in case my WPA key gets
> hacked. Can I issue only certain IPs to certain MAC addresses?
>
> Does WPA2 require ha
James wrote:
> SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit).
Does Linux support ATAPI for your SATA interface?
> Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
> the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
> would recommend?
>
> Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo?
How abot looking for well known
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 00:26:19 Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?
Have a look at "worldofpadman", not seen any blood in there :)
You fight with paintguns and such like and it all looks cartoony.
http://worldofpadman.com/
--
Joost
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:53:22 Dirk Uys wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0
> ebuild fails:
>
>
> I have the latest version of libXi (1.2.0). I tried searching the net,
> but the only answer I got was that some guy on the kde forums had the
> s
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote:
>>
>>> Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'?
>>
>> Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case the
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote:
>
>> Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'?
>
> Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case they'll only be
> picked up when you use --with-bdeps y.
>
> T
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote:
>
>> Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'?
>
> Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case they'll only be
> picked up when you use --with-bdeps y.
>
> Th
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:29:01 -0800, Grant wrote:
> Is portage supposed to pick up on this with 'emerge -avDuN world'?
Not if these are build-time dependencies, in which case they'll only be
picked up when you use --with-bdeps y.
This is becoming a VFAQ.
--
Neil Bothwick
If weather bureaus wer
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:04 PM, James wrote:
> Hello
>
> SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit).
>
> Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
> the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
> would recommend?
>
> Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo?
I think they should mostly be the same t
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:37 + (UTC), James wrote:
> Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
> the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
> would recommend?
I have an Optimax SATA DVD-RW/DVD+RW/DVD-RAM drive that cost about £18 a
year ago.
--
Neil Bothwick
Nymphomania-- an illness you hear
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:52:13 +, Stroller wrote:
> No, they will all reach the router's IP address. It will have an
> option for "port forwarding" so that you can forward port 80 to the
> webserver and ports 25 & 110 to the mail server. If you have two
> webservers behind the router then y
Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> Ups.. He-he... :-) I have thought it is "frame per second" - is related to
> "3D
> reality reconstruction", where GL, *fps* and such are needed, used, told
> about. Fine! Probably there are not-FPS :-) beauty ("rich 3D") games for
> little boy, are not they?
Well, if
In a recent upgrade to my laptop EHCI supported was added to my
kernel, I thought that this would be a good thing because I have a USB
2.0 external harddrive that I connect to my laptop for additional
storage and media. I also use a Logitech Quickcam Deluxe for Notebooks
which is a USB 1.1 device a
I do a daily 'emerge -avDuN world' to keep everything up to date, but
I've noticed it doesn't always find everything. As an example:
# emerge -avDuN world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
Nothing to
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 01:47:00PM -0500, Saphirus Sage wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Momesso Andrea
> wrote:
>
>> I have a home server running gentoo for personal use (irc, home
>> entertainment, file server etc.).
>>
>> It is reachable from the internet using a dyamic dns service
>>
Marcin Nis'kiewicz wrote:
Hello
I'm testing mail server with mysql backend. Generally it works quite
well. But from time to time during testing, single mails can't be send
because of smtp errors:
in mail.log
Feb 3 13:47:37 mail postfix/smtpd[28339]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
unknown[ip]: 4
Hello
SATA or Eide on DVD rw choices (internal unit).
Any cheap DVD rw that have success writing to
the many forms of rw DVDS, that one
would recommend?
Any bands (plextor?) to avoid on gentoo?
James
On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Momesso Andrea
wrote:
I have a home server running gentoo for personal use (irc, home
entertainment, file server etc.).
It is reachable from the internet using a dyamic dns service
(dyndns.org).
I also have another machine (running gentoo too) that I use as a
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:13PM +, Stroller wrote:
>
> On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote:
>> ...
>> What happens if I decide to switch to the "router" configuration? If I
>> have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone from the
>> outside will try to connect to
On 3 Feb 2009, at 17:43, Momesso Andrea wrote:
...
What happens if I decide to switch to the "router" configuration? If I
have a single IP for all the machines in the LAN, when someone from
the
outside will try to connect to homeserver.foo or to webserver.bar,
will
they be routed to the cor
I have a home server running gentoo for personal use (irc, home
entertainment, file server etc.).
It is reachable from the internet using a dyamic dns service
(dyndns.org).
I also have another machine (running gentoo too) that I use as a web
server. This machine uses dyndns.org, with a different
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:23:17 +0500, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
> And I hate to re-emerge same gcc every time some minor bug (which I
> didn't happen to reproduce) is fixed.
IKWYM but I think, on balance, this one would have benefited from a bump
as the effects of the breakage were quite widespread. It
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:03:00 +0100 (CET)
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> I do love this !!!
And I hate to re-emerge same gcc every time some minor bug (which I
didn't happen to reproduce) is fixed.
--
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Hi all,
I know that there is a bug open at http://bugs.gentoo.org/232511 regarding
fcdsl and current kernels 2.6.2*, but please let me ask whether some of you
might have figured out how to make fcdsl work with the current kernels.
Thanks,
Hans
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On 3 Feb, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Re-emerge gcc-4.3.3 - this was fixed without a revision bump.
^^^
I do love this !!!
Many thanks,
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aach
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:34:02 +0300
Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> My country isn't included in paypal list, so, I'm going to stick to the
> portage tree :-)
Judging by network/domain whois and your name, I assume you're from the
same country as I am, and paypal works perfectly for me with both visa
an
Hello all,
I have solved the problem now. It was due to a missing library issue in HAL.
A ln -s /var/lib64/libvolume_id.so.0 /lib64/libvolume_id.so.0 fixed it.
Greetings,
Niklas
reQuiem23 wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable
> media.
Andrew Gaydenko gaydenko.com> writes:
>
> Has ~amd64 portage such games for my 7 years old son?
BZflag.org is very cool 3D tank game, where you play
others across the net. No blood and cursing by players
get's you booted.
My kids all love it!
hth,
James
Dale writes:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Harry Putnam writes:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone else have trouble accessing cups documentation?
>>>
>>> Here using http://localhost:631 just fails with standard message
>>> unable to connect to server at 631.
>>>
>>> The html stuff under /usr/share/cups/html/
>>>
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 07:53:22 Dirk Uys wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0
> ebuild fails:
>
>
> Have anyone else successfully built kde4.2?
Three systems so far, one x86, two amd64. Every single one failed to emerge
kde 4.2 cleanly in a sin
Hello
I'm testing mail server with mysql backend. Generally it works quite well.
But from time to time during testing, single mails can't be send because of
smtp errors:
in mail.log
Feb 3 13:47:37 mail postfix/smtpd[28339]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
unknown[ip]: 451 4.3.0 : Temporary
lookup fai
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:15:55 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
> like
> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
>
> The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path
> /usr/
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 12:53:22 am Dirk Uys wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm trying to emerge kde-4.2, but the kde-base/systemsettings-4.2.0
> ebuild fails:
>
> Scanning dependencies of target kdeinit_kxkb
> [ 23%] Building CXX object
> kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kdeinit_kxkb.dir/kdeinit_kxkb_automoc.o
> [ 2
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
On 3 Feb, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
like
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
The problem is that I have u
Helmut Jarausch schrieb:
> On 3 Feb, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
>>
>>> since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
>>> like
>>> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
>>>
>>> The
On Dienstag 03 Februar 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
> like
> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
>
> The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path
> /usr/lib/gcc
On 3 Feb, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
>
>> since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
>> like
>> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
>>
>> The problem is that I have upgraded t
Am Dienstag, 3. Februar 2009 13:15:55 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
> since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
> like
> /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
>
> The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path
> /usr/lib
Hi,
since a short time many (not all) packages fail to build with a message
like
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.la
The problem is that I have upgraded to gcc-4.3.3 so there is no path
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2
anymore.
I have rebuilt libtool, sourced
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:37:51 +0200, Dimitris Kavadas wrote:
>
>> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "=x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3".
>> (dependency required by
>> "net-wireless/kdebluetooth-1.0_beta1-r2" [installed]) (dependency
>> required by "wo
Mick wrote:
> > > I want to save the backup on a USB drive on /media/sda1. Therefore I ran
> > > star as root like this:
> > >
> > > # cd /dev/sda1
> > > # star -xattr -H=exustar -c -f hda5_root1.star /media/hda5 -C /media/sda1
> >
> > This is a useless command line as -C /media/sda1 is executed
On 3 Feb 2009, at 03:39, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 06:24:40 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Difficult to find an FPS without violence. Even in Consoles and MS
Windows. Why? FPS = First Person *Shooter*. Shooter = guns and
kills ;)
You're making me wish for a FPS in whi
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