Am Samstag, 29. November 2008 07:30:03 schrieb Harry Putnam:
> Can anyone tell me if there is a desktop pager that can be run
> regardless of window manager?
>
> Browsing through portage, It appears there is not such a critter.
xterm -e less
otherwise: eix pager
HTH...
Dirk
Can anyone tell me if there is a desktop pager that can be run
regardless of window manager?
I suspect the kde (kpager) might do it but I'm not willing to fuss
with the kdelibs and qt-3.3 pkgs required to install it.
Browsing through portage, It appears there is not such a critter.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Florian Philipp
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As for my photos, I can back all the collection to a single DVD (and
>> to a second one, since I keep hearing that DVD-Rs are unreliable), and
>> since I don't take new photos every week, this solution is fine.
>>
>
> A
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Daniel Troeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 26.11.2008, 15:26 +0100 schrieb Florian Philipp:
>> > As for my photos, I can back all the collection to a single DVD (and
>> > to a second one, since I keep hearing that DVD-Rs are unreliable), and
>> >
Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> For some reason my Gentoo rsa public key is not liked by 3.9p1-11.el4_7 sshd,
> which is running on a CentOS server. On the Gentoo machine I am running
> net-misc/openssh-5.1_p1-r1. This is what it shows:
> ===
> debug1:
True it is. I have a simple 128-bit WEP setup presently - I use to have a
system that couldn't handle WPA so I didn't set it up for WPA; I think I could
now, but I don't have the time quite at the moment. Any how...wpa_supplicant
didn't like the key (see below); thus my original e-mail.
network
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Dale!
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:14:42AM -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>
>
>> I have a pretty old install tho I have moved it from one drive to
>> another once, using cp -av. It got to big for the old hard drive.
>> Anyway, the install is about 5
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
[...] what would be the best way to defrag it?
>>> By not defragging it.
>>>
>>> It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation
>>> is a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystems are a steaming
>>> mess
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:29, Florian Philipp
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iain Buchanan schrieb:
>>
>> R C Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>> I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I
>>> decided
>>> to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
>>
>> ah, who says Ubuntu
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IFIFY?
>
> $ wtf IFIFY
> IFIFY: nothing appropriate
"I fixed it for you", indicating that the quoted text has been
altered. More common IME is "IFYPFY", for "I fixed your post for you",
but that's also unknown to wtf.
Hmm, "IME
Hi All,
For some reason my Gentoo rsa public key is not liked by 3.9p1-11.el4_7 sshd,
which is running on a CentOS server. On the Gentoo machine I am running
net-misc/openssh-5.1_p1-r1. This is what it shows:
===
debug1: fd 3 clearing O_NONBLOCK
Stroller wrote:
On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:56, Iain Buchanan wrote:
R C Mitchell wrote:
I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard
disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for
evaluation ... I'm in complete denial over this blatant
non-specific hardware fault ...
On Friday 28 November 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Friday 28 November 2008, Grant wrote:
> >> I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
> >> the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
> >> 6000+ comes with a
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008, Grant wrote:
I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster
speed is pretty loud.
On 28 Nov 2008, at 19:27, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
...
I don't buy into that argument and never did. Every few months I
copy the
whole HD to another one and then back to counter fragmentation
(ext3) and
the system becomes noticeably faster after doing it (speed increase
in
emer
On 28 Nov 2008, at 16:31, Florian Philipp wrote:
...
I'm wondering, why is Windows that bad in this regard? Of course,
FAT* is bad, but what's about NTFS? It is at least as modern as most
Linux FS and has some nice features. Surely MS should be capable of
implementing the same allocation a
On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:56, Iain Buchanan wrote:
R C Mitchell wrote:
I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk
I decided
to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
...
I'm in complete denial over this blatant non-specific hardware
fault ...
IFIFY.
hm,
On Friday 28 November 2008, Grant wrote:
> I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
> the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
> 6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster
> speed is pretty loud. Can I get the fan to
Limit your 6000+ cpu frequency using cpufreq (so it would become 4000+ and
fan would not spin up). :)
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
> the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it w
on 11/28/2008 09:27 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote the following:
Thanasis wrote:
on 11/28/2008 07:59 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote the following:
Thanasis wrote:
The question is:
Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable?
>From a security point of view, you're supposed
Hi, Dale!
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:14:42AM -0600, Dale wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have a pretty old install tho I have moved it from one drive to
> another once, using cp -av. It got to big for the old hard drive.
> Anyway, the install is about 5 years old or so and about 3 years since
> it got m
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:
[...] what would be the best way to defrag it?
By not defragging it.
It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation
is a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystems are a steaming
mess of [EMAIL PROTECTED] that do littl
Thanasis wrote:
on 11/28/2008 07:59 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote the following:
Thanasis wrote:
The question is:
Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable?
>From a security point of view, you're supposed to upgrade the kernel
as soon as a release is made upstream.
>>> [...] what would be the best way to defrag it?
>>
>> By not defragging it.
>>
>> It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation
>> is a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystems are a steaming
>> mess of [EMAIL PROTECTED] that do little right and most t
>> I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
>> the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
>> 6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster
>> speed is pretty loud. Can I get the fan to never increase to the
>> higher speed
on 11/28/2008 07:59 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote the following:
Thanasis wrote:
The question is:
Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable?
>From a security point of view, you're supposed to upgrade the kernel
as soon as a release is made upstream. When a security f
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Grant wrote:
>> I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
>> the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
>> 6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster
>> speed is pretty loud. Can I get the fan
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
By not defragging it.
It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation is
a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystem
Joshua Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Given my experience with XFS, I won't be switching anytime soon. I used
>> that once on a in-laws system. After each crash, power failure, I had
>> to reinstall. Let's just say it left a bad taste in
Grant wrote:
I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster
speed is pretty loud. Can I get the fan to never increase to the
higher speed
Thanasis wrote:
The question is:
Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable?
From a security point of view, you're supposed to upgrade the kernel as
soon as a release is made upstream. When a security fix is made
upstream, the vulnerability in question has been dis
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Murphy wrote:
>> While not trying to incite flames here... xfs isn't general purpose?
>> xfs_fsr defrags xfs partitions while they're mounted and is designed
>> to be used from cron (it's in xfsdump, not xfsprogs). File
>> f
I just upgraded my AMD X2 4000+ to a 6000+. The fan that came with
the 4000+ always sounded like it had one speed and it was quiet. The
6000+ comes with a fan that seems to have two speeds and the faster
speed is pretty loud. Can I get the fan to never increase to the
higher speed?
- Grant
Joshua Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
>>
>>> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
>>>
>> By not defragging it.
>>
>> It's not Windows. Windows
Florian Philipp wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>
>> I have said myself that Linux does not generally need to be defraged. I
>> have never seen a Linux file system get anything near as bad as
>> windoze. While I don't run windoze I do have family and friends that do
>> so I know how bad it can be. I have
Dale schrieb:
I have said myself that Linux does not generally need to be defraged. I
have never seen a Linux file system get anything near as bad as
windoze. While I don't run windoze I do have family and friends that do
so I know how bad it can be. I have seen a lot of windoze be at 40 and
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
>> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
>
> By not defragging it.
>
> It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation
On Friday 28 November 2008 12:29:23 Florian Philipp wrote:
> By the way: Can you post some parameters of your system (CPU, age, ...)
> and tell us, whether you use 64bit or 32bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo?
I had the box built for me a year ago.
Processor is ADM Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Proces
Florian Philipp wrote:
> Alan McKinnon schrieb:
> [...]
>> Reiser tends to self-balance itself out. What is especially
>> noteworthy is that none of the general purpose Linux filesystems
>> provide a defrag utility. Theodore 'Tso and Hans Reiser are both
>> exceptional programmers, if there was a n
On Friday 28 November 2008 12:55:06 Andrea Momesso wrote:
> An easy way to find out if this is a gentoo related problem is to
> avoid using the livecd.
> You can easily chroot into the gentoo drive from your ubuntu
> installation and try to emerge
> gentoo-sources from there.
Ok, I've done this.
On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:46, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
By not defragging it.
It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because
fragmentation is
a huge problem in itself, b
On Friday 28 November 2008 11:56:52 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying
> a real distribution :)
Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore...
> Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using
> for years... anyhoo wel
Am Freitag 28 November 2008 13:48:15 schrieb ext Thanasis:
> Am I supposed/ should I upgrade when a new source tree becomes stable?
I'd say no, but that's a question that you can only answer yourself, it depend
solely on your needs.
Bye...
Dirk
--
Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (
Am Freitag 28 November 2008 13:47:48 schrieb ext Thanasis:
> OK, I'm not acquainted with git... :-\ , but that's another subject. :-)
I only mentioned it because I find it most convinient for kernel source
update. Only one source directory around (no cleanup of old source package
needed), easy
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM, R C Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided
> to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
>
> Using the handbook documentation for AMD64 I burned a basic installation CD,
> boo
on 11/28/2008 11:54 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following:
On Friday 28 November 2008 10:41:55 Thanasis wrote:
Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
which is the best way to go:
1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean the
sources
on 11/28/2008 10:53 AM Dirk Heinrichs wrote the following:
Am Freitag 28 November 2008 09:41:55 schrieb ext Thanasis:
Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
which is the best way to go:
1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean the
on 11/28/2008 01:19 PM Dale wrote the following:
Thanasis wrote:
Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of
security, which is the best way to go:
1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean
the sources would be upgraded whenever portage marks a ne
on 11/28/2008 12:31 PM Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote the following:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Thanasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
which is the best way to go:
1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/worl
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:29, Florian Philipp
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iain Buchanan schrieb:
>>
>> R C Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>> I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I
>>> decided
>>> to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
>>
>> ah, who says Ubuntu
Iain Buchanan schrieb:
R C Mitchell wrote:
I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I
decided
to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying
a real distribution :)
Typically now you'
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 11:36 +, R C Mitchell wrote:
[SNIP]
> I emerged gentoo-sources, and it ran fine for
> about five minutes, and then (choosing the moment when I decided all was well
> to go and make a pot of tea, the system rebooted itself. I booted up the
> disk again and went throug
Alan McKinnon schrieb:
[...]
Reiser tends to self-balance itself out. What is especially noteworthy is that
none of the general purpose Linux filesystems provide a defrag utility.
Theodore 'Tso and Hans Reiser are both exceptional programmers, if there was
a need for such a tool they would assu
on 11/28/2008 11:14 AM Justin wrote the following:
Thanasis schrieb:
Yesterday, I tried upgrading from gentoo-sources-2.6.25-r9 to
2.6.26-r3, but the new kernel can not mount the root filesystem,
because it's on a RAID1 on an SIL680 controller.
In the previous kernel I had CONFIG_PATA_SIL680=y
R C Mitchell wrote:
I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided
to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying
a real distribution :)
Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say
On Friday 28 November 2008 13:14:42 Dale wrote:
> If this is a little high, what would be the best way to defrag it?
By not defragging it.
It's not Windows. Windows boxes needs defragging not because fragmentation is
a huge problem in itself, but because windows filesystems are a steaming mess
I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided
to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation
Using the handbook documentation for AMD64 I burned a basic installation CD,
booted it up, and followed the instructions for installation on the spare
drive. Eve
Thanasis wrote:
> Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of
> security, which is the best way to go:
> 1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean
> the sources would be upgraded whenever portage marks a newer version
> as stable (provided someone follo
Hi folks,
I have a pretty old install tho I have moved it from one drive to
another once, using cp -av. It got to big for the old hard drive.
Anyway, the install is about 5 years old or so and about 3 years since
it got moved. I have Gentoo on it naturally, a ship load of pictures
and a few oth
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Thanasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
> which is the best way to go:
> 1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean the
> sources would be upgraded whenever portage mark
On Friday 28 November 2008 10:41:55 Thanasis wrote:
> Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
> which is the best way to go:
> 1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean the
> sources would be upgraded whenever portage marks a newer version
Thanasis schrieb:
Yesterday, I tried upgrading from gentoo-sources-2.6.25-r9 to
2.6.26-r3, but the new kernel can not mount the root filesystem,
because it's on a RAID1 on an SIL680 controller.
In the previous kernel I had CONFIG_PATA_SIL680=y , but in the new
.config I cannot find any PATA.
Am Freitag 28 November 2008 09:41:55 schrieb ext Thanasis:
> Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
> which is the best way to go:
> 1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean the
> sources would be upgraded whenever portage marks a newer
Regarding kernel maintenance, mostly from the point of view of security,
which is the best way to go:
1) Having gentoo-sources in /var/lib/portage/world, which would mean the
sources would be upgraded whenever portage marks a newer version as
stable (provided someone follows stable)?
2) Not havi
on 11/27/2008 08:47 PM Thanasis wrote the following:
Yesterday, I tried upgrading from gentoo-sources-2.6.25-r9 to
2.6.26-r3, but the new kernel can not mount the root filesystem,
because it's on a RAID1 on an SIL680 controller.
In the previous kernel I had CONFIG_PATA_SIL680=y , but in the new
on 11/28/2008 12:33 AM Neil Bothwick wrote the following:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:47:24 +0200, Thanasis wrote:
Yesterday, I tried upgrading from gentoo-sources-2.6.25-r9 to
2.6.26-r3, but the new kernel can not mount the root filesystem,
because it's on a RAID1 on an SIL680 controller.
In the pr
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