Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 08:19:47 Graham Murray wrote: > Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > First of all I believe most people (including myself) very much prefer > > colors over no colors (no I cannot qualify with any numbers..). That does > > not, however, mean that the pipe det

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Graham Murray
Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > First of all I believe most people (including myself) very much prefer colors > over no colors (no I cannot qualify with any numbers..). That does not, > however, mean that the pipe detection and --color switch etc. shouldn't be > honoured. It sh

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 07:48:51 Roy Wright wrote: > echo "Syncing overlays..." > layman -S > > produces email message containing: > > Syncing overlays... > svn: Working copy '/usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise' locked > svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for > detail

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Roy Wright
Dale wrote: > I thought I was the only one that had to copy and paste it to Kwrite to > read it. Sorry to say I'm not alone here. :-( He seems, well, . . . > pissed. :/ > > The beryl negate feature is good for interactive viewing of these insane color schemes (using both bright yellow and d

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 07:13:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have to copy and paste into an editor just to read the error messages. > > > > Easier to just pipe the output into less. > > Doesn't always work. Whatever generates the color ignores TERM and > --nocolor and color=n, and doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread felix
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 06:29:45AM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 06:17:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? > [SNIP] > > I am so tired of this crap. Even editing /usr/bin/emerge to always > > set output.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Dale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? > > Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre > colors scattered all over my screen? > > What bozo thought all those colors were legible on every frikking > terminal and checkin

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 06:17:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? [SNIP] > I am so tired of this crap. Even editing /usr/bin/emerge to always > set output.havecolor to 0 doesn't disable color. I have to copy and > paste into an edit

[gentoo-user] Why are gentoo people so in love with colorized output?!?

2007-04-03 Thread felix
Why do --nocolor and --color=n not work (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.3)? Why does the damned thing default to thinking I want blaring bizarre colors scattered all over my screen? What bozo thought all those colors were legible on every frikking terminal and checking for --nocolor was unnecesary? I am

Re: [gentoo-user] eclean doesn't clean

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 02 April 2007 02:43:50 Adrian wrote: > Problem with eclean. I have gentoolkit0.2.2 installed. > > eclean will not actually clean anything. I've let it run for hours and > eventually have to ctrl-c to kill it. error messages as follows. Is it still slow after following Zac Medicos sugg

Re: [gentoo-user] eclean doesn't clean

2007-04-03 Thread Nico
2007/4/2, Adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Problem with eclean. I have gentoolkit0.2.2 installed. eclean will not actually clean anything. I've let it run for hours and eventually have to ctrl-c to kill it. error messages as follows. Maybe Yacleaner could help you ? See http://forums.gentoo.o

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT DNS] common way to discover nameservers for an IP

2007-04-03 Thread reader
"Adam Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I know I've once known and used a command that listed the nameservers >> serving a given IP. >> >> I don't remember if it was nslookup, host, dig or what but not finding >> it in those various man pages. > > I have made a different assumtion about what

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT DNS] common way to discover nameservers for an IP

2007-04-03 Thread reader
Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 02 April 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I know I've once known and used a command that listed the nameservers >> > serving a given IP. >> >> What do you with that? There's no such thing - any nameserver _

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT DNS] common way to discover nameservers for an IP

2007-04-03 Thread reader
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I know I've once known and used a command that listed the nameservers >> serving a given IP. > > What do you with that? There's no such thing - any nameserver _can_ > return any IP. > >> I know there ar

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resolve policy conflicts?

2007-04-03 Thread Steve L.
Also having said developers take their point of view (properly referenced and footnoted of course) to their blogs to vent about it and then being syndicated in the "Planet Gentoo" feed is probably not a good solution either. It leaked out of various clandestine lists and some published lists to t

Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Daniel Daniel Iliev wrote on 03/04/07 05:13: > Unfortunately I had no luck. Clean kernel, the latest patch-o-matic, the > latest iptables and the same result. Obviously gentoo-sources is > incompatible with tar pit module. ;-( I just tried your update process and ended up with the same failure

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resolve policy conflicts?

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Markus Markus Schönhaber wrote on 03/04/07 13:15: >> Recently there has been a lot of unpleasant noise about conflicts and >> disagreements among the Gentoo developers. I hope that they will resolve >> their (mainly political) problems soon. The stories have not been good >> for the image of G

Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu

2007-04-03 Thread Bayrouni
Sylvain Chouleur a écrit : 1) I'm sorry but don't understand what 'top post' means When you reply don't write your message at the top but at the bottom. just at the bottom. In other words, write at the last line. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu

2007-04-03 Thread Sylvain Chouleur
1) I'm sorry but don't understand what 'top post' means 2) It's not the temperature itself which is my problem, but the fan which rotate very quickly and I want to have a very clean system _ Personnalisez votre Messenger avec Live

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 15:26 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Montag, 2. April 2007 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon: > > > The OP has an interesting problem here, as root can cd into any > > directory even if all permissions are removed. > > root can, but user "fcron" can't: > well spotted - I missed

Re: [gentoo-user] netfilter tarpit target

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Daniel Daniel Iliev wrote on 03/04/07 05:13: > test ~ # cd /usr/src > test src # rm -rf linu* > test src # emerge -C gentoo-sources ; emerge gentoo-sources > test src # svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/iptables > test iptables # cd iptables > test iptables # svn update > At revi

Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu

2007-04-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, "Sylvain Chouleur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu': > I have found the source of my problem: 1) Don't top post. 2) 65 C isn't a problem. My laptop regularly runs 85+ C under load. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT (ish): What are the average requirements of a small business server?

2007-04-03 Thread Pongrácz István
2007. 04. 3, kedd keltezéssel 17.34-kor Joel Merrick ezt írta: > Hello list!! > . > Anyway, here is some of the list that we are thinking about implementing: > Thanks! > Joel and Mark Hi, Probably you should like to give a try to my livecd. With that livecd I try to build up a wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu

2007-04-03 Thread Sylvain Chouleur
Hello! I have found the source of my problem: I've not a wifi card integrated in my laptop and so I'm using a usb dongle with ndiswrapper driver. And it's when this usb key is plugged that the acpi temperature is growing and it don't happens if it's a classic usb key (storage for example) which

[gentoo-user] OT (ish): What are the average requirements of a small business server?

2007-04-03 Thread Joel Merrick
Hello list!! With the advent of Vista and all the bells and whistles that it provides, one can't help think that a lot of this functionality is grossly overkill for a small business environment. I've not actually checked how SBS2003 will develop, but I'm sure that it will continue to tow the glit

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > # ll /usr/bin/fcrontab > -rwsr-sr-x 1 fcron fcron 47612 19. Mär 14:15 /usr/bin/fcrontab* Ah, there's the problem. I saw earlier that the fcron directory is suid root, which is redundant as it has no effect. I didn't check the actual binary though

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on HP HP Pavilion dv6305us

2007-04-03 Thread Fabio
Hello Adrian, I have installed Gentoo on a HP Pavilion 6258SE. Maybe some of the instructions apply to your box, too. There is no need to be so strict about the model and specifications; most guidelines for the dv6000 series will apply to your machine. Also, be the first to post the dv6305us re

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 2. April 2007 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon: > The OP has an interesting problem here, as root can cd into any > directory even if all permissions are removed. root can, but user "fcron" can't: # ll /usr/bin/fcrontab -rwsr-sr-x 1 fcron fcron 47612 19. Mär 14:15 /usr/bin/fcrontab* > Bill,

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 14:49 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2007, W.Kenworthy wrote: > > Havnt rebooted though > > Most unlikely to make any difference whatsoever. You'll probably sit > with exactly the same situation after the reboot as before, this ain't > windows > > al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 14:23:28 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I used to deal with --si or -H when using df as an example. By default, > size unit is byte, but when you want to understand the numbers with no > mental extra operation, It is quite good to print the more suitable > unit. > > Let'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread galevsky
Great !! Thanks guys, I was out of business since I am launching emerge --sync and emerge helper does not provide -h option. I need more readings on Portage I think. Gal' 2007/4/3, Heinz Hombergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Am Dienstag, 3. April 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > emerge --sync makes

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, W.Kenworthy wrote: > Havnt rebooted though Most unlikely to make any difference whatsoever. You'll probably sit with exactly the same situation after the reboot as before, this ain't windows alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Heinz Hombergs
Am Dienstag, 3. April 2007 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > emerge --sync makes a call to rsync program ? I did not take the time > yet to learn more about Gentoo specific softwares, but I will do that > soon. Look at the sizes format in bytes. Today it often happens -well, > most of the time- several

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 14:23:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > emerge --sync makes a call to rsync program ? I did not take the time > yet to learn more about Gentoo specific softwares, but I will do that > soon. Look at the sizes format in bytes. Today it often happens -well, > most of the time- sev

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread galevsky
emerge --sync makes a call to rsync program ? I did not take the time yet to learn more about Gentoo specific softwares, but I will do that soon. Look at the sizes format in bytes. Today it often happens -well, most of the time- several Mo of download, so the byte unit is not very useful but Kb/Mb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 14:05:14 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Hello Alexander Skwar, > > > > You can (I hope) change the command > > > to sync portage, so you can add some flags. > > > > No, you cannot; at least not through some configuration. You can > > of course "hack" /usr/bin/emerge. > > Yes you c

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:06 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Trevor Forbes wrote: > > W.Kenworthy wrote: ... > > [Bug 171998] sys-process/fcron-3.0.2-r1 - root can't list/edit > > cronjobs. > > Getting a little OT here, but I find that a very interesting bug report. > It se

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread W.Kenworthy
Thanks - I searched before this was raised. At least I dont feel so lonely now :) BillK On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 17:01 +0930, Trevor Forbes wrote: > W.Kenworthy wrote: > > Cant believe I am the only one who has this - 3 systems I have checked > > so far are all the same - root cant access its cront

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Alexander Skwar, > > You can (I hope) change the command > > to sync portage, so you can add some flags. > > No, you cannot; at least not through some configuration. You can > of course "hack" /usr/bin/emerge. Yes you can, by setting PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS in /etc/make.conf, but rsync

Re: [gentoo-user] How to resolve policy conflicts?

2007-04-03 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Dave Jones wrote: > I'm sure that the Gentoo developers are doing their best to resolve the > issues. I don't doubt that either. > Unfortunately, I'm not talented enough myself to be able to > contribute to a speedier solution to the problem. Neither am I. Anyway: however this will be resolved

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
Michal 'vorner' Vaner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can (I hope) change the command > to sync portage, so you can add some flags. No, you cannot; at least not through some configuration. You can of course "hack" /usr/bin/emerge. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.': > It could be much more convenient to have this kind of information more > readable : That's the output of rsync, not emerge. > but I see no human readable formatting option. Any trick ? Oddly

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:40:49PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is there a way to have human readable format with emerge ? > > It could be much more convenient to have this kind of information more > readable : > > Number of files: 122567 > Number of files transferred: 675 > Total file size:

[gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.

2007-04-03 Thread galevsky
Is there a way to have human readable format with emerge ? It could be much more convenient to have this kind of information more readable : Number of files: 122567 Number of files transferred: 675 Total file size: 159275947 bytes Total transferred file size: 3030220 bytes Literal data: 3030220

[gentoo-user] mplayer output - funny characters on the terminal

2007-04-03 Thread Mick
Hi All, I think that I might have asked this before. When I launch mplayer some characters are not legible on the terminal that it was launched from. Any idea why this happens and how to fix it? = MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team CPU: Inte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?

2007-04-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 03:11:48 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /etc, /var, /usr, /bin and so on I can see the (potential) problems. > > But just /root ? It is a must to have it does not contain important > > tuned up files, does it ? It is just an ac

Re: [gentoo-user] Thermal cpu

2007-04-03 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:05:09 +0200 "Sylvain Chouleur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to install and use lm_sensors but it don't detect any sensors. Since there are really lots of drivers, I just guess you didn't compile the right ones when building your kernel. > Moreover, I think it'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?

2007-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > /etc, /var, /usr, /bin and so on I can see the (potential) problems. > But just /root ? It is a must to have it does not contain important > tuned up files, does it ? It is just an account that root use for > admin task, so is there a known probl

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, Trevor Forbes wrote: > W.Kenworthy wrote: > > Cant believe I am the only one who has this - 3 systems I have > > checked so far are all the same - root cant access its crontab. > > Ive tried rebuilding one without pam (fcron only), but no change. > > [Bug 171998] sys-proc

Re: [gentoo-user] k3b, konqueror DCOP error on start

2007-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Jed R. Mallen, > DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, > reason : Non DCOPServer self-test failed. > kdeinit: DCOPServer could not be started, aborting. > ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication. > === The only time I've seen this,

[gentoo-user] Re: Can I share my /boot and swap partitions with other Linux installs?

2007-04-03 Thread galevsky
/etc, /var, /usr, /bin and so on I can see the (potential) problems. But just /root ? It is a must to have it does not contain important tuned up files, does it ? It is just an account that root use for admin task, so is there a known problem to share it ? I used to mount /root aside from /. Gal

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Daniel Iliev, > Actually I'd be glad to read some results from a "Fake RAID-0 vs LVM" > tests. My bet would be that RAID-0 w/o LVM would give the best speeds Omitting LVM isn't an option, I'd lose all the flexibility that LVM offers. I don't see why RAID-0 should be necessarily more efficie

Re: [gentoo-user] fcron

2007-04-03 Thread Trevor Forbes
W.Kenworthy wrote: > Cant believe I am the only one who has this - 3 systems I have checked > so far are all the same - root cant access its crontab. Ive tried > rebuilding one without pam (fcron only), but no change. > > [Bug 171998] sys-process/fcron-3.0.2-r1 - root can't list/edit cronjobs.