Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-10 Thread Todd M. Hébert
RAID 4. (Widely used in SAN appliances such as NetApp's StoreVault line.) --Todd JD Gray wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM, "Todd M. Hébert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The major difference between 4 & 5 is being able to resize the RAID set on the fly. (adding drives to the RAID pool witho

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-09 Thread JD Gray
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:29 AM, "Todd M. Hébert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The major difference between 4 & 5 is being able to resize the RAID set on > the fly. (adding drives to the RAID pool without having to completely > rebuild it.) Which can have disks added on the fly without rebuilding

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-09 Thread kashani
A. Khattri wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2008, Michelangelo wrote: Besides, RAID 5 is not always a good choice: I got 2 adaptec and 3ware cards that got them bioses/nvram messed up thanks to power spikes during the big italian blackout back in 2003. And yes, they were behind online APC ups We use

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-09 Thread Todd M. Hébert
Whether the RAID is toast due to the loss of two drives depends on how many drives you're striping the data across and how many parity drives you have. With RAID 5, if you have 9 drives you end up with one dedicated for parity, and the system should keep running with a loss of 2 drives without

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-09 Thread RijilV
2008/6/9 "Todd M. Hébert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We use RAID 1 on servers that are not file servers, RAID 4 or 5 on > file-servers (depending on how much need for redundancy we have on a Doesn't RAID 4 and 5 offer the same level of protection? I thought the only difference was RAID4 had a dedica

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-09 Thread Todd M. Hébert
We use RAID 1 on servers that are not file servers, RAID 4 or 5 on file-servers (depending on how much need for redundancy we have on a particular filer) and back up the RAID4/5 partitions to tape daily. (with the RAID 1's backed up to the RAID 4/5's before those are backed-up to tape.) Tapes a

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-06-06 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 24 May 2008, Michelangelo wrote: Besides, RAID 5 is not always a good choice: I got 2 adaptec and 3ware cards that got them bioses/nvram messed up thanks to power spikes during the big italian blackout back in 2003. And yes, they were behind online APC ups We use RAID 1 but generally

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-24 Thread Michelangelo
Summing it up, IMHO. - NTFS is not a choice, really, you wanna stay in linux land. Besides, you would have to find some tool|workaround for defragmenting it :/ - reiserfs is not that manageable: as others said, it does not allow recovery from filesystem damage (let alone from hd failure). Reiserfs

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-24 Thread RijilV
2008/5/24 A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Technical arguments aside, if you're serious about data loss and/or > performance, you would be using hardware RAID anyway. 3ware cards are pretty > cheap and the extra money is well worth it for peace of mind. +1 for 3ware. Also, the initial problem w

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 20 May 2008, Wendall Cada wrote: Oli is correct. If reiser dies, the data is completely lost. It writes to the journal first, then writes the data. That, and when it decides to completely kill your B-Trees, you're screwed. After three unrecoverable reiserfs issues, I moved over to ext3

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Christian Bricart
widyachacra wrote: what is the best filesystem for a server Take http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 for some facts. Christian -- gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Wendall Cada
Oliver Schad wrote: Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb mir Edward Muller: reiserfs, purely from the recovery angle. Yeah, if you have fuck up in the B-Trees, it's the best filesystem purely from the rubbish heap's angle. regards Oli Oli is correct. If reiser dies, the data is co

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Oliver Schad
Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 schrieb mir Edward Muller: > reiserfs, purely from the recovery angle. Yeah, if you have fuck up in the B-Trees, it's the best filesystem purely from the rubbish heap's angle. regards Oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Edward Muller
reiserfs, purely from the recovery angle. Its also decently fast and really good with lots of small files. On May 18, 2008, at 7:41 PM, widyachacra wrote: what is the best filesystem for a server -- --- PS: This is my private email address. Budu saranay! Sadaham Phitay! Sangha Rekawaranay! {

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread gregorcy
Thilo Bangert wrote: "Tomasz Lutelmowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: NTFS is the best one but unfortunately not fully supported by linux :/ last time i checked, NTFS (by default) cant create files named 'aux' or 'con'... go figure! that is the reason why i dislike it (apart from the one yo

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Thilo Bangert
"Tomasz Lutelmowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > NTFS is the best one but unfortunately not fully supported by linux :/ last time i checked, NTFS (by default) cant create files named 'aux' or 'con'... go figure! that is the reason why i dislike it (apart from the one you mention). YMMV. why do

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Gunnar Mann
Assuming you speak about linux servers: Ext3 is not the bleeding edge in speed when handling a lot of small files (rather take xfs here) but fast for normal data structures, is rock solid and it's journaling feature works great. I never had any file system crash for years now, even when cold-h

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-20 Thread Tomasz Lutelmowski
NTFS is the best one but unfortunately not fully supported by linux :/ On Mon, 19 May 2008 08:11:17 +0530, widyachacra wrote > what is the best filesystem for a server > > -- > --- > PS: This is my private email address. > > Budu saranay! Sadaham Phitay! Sangha Rekawaranay! {Theruwan Saranay!}

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-18 Thread Aaron Clark
widyachacra wrote: what is the best filesystem for a server As others have said, it really depends on what you want. e.g. For a file server you likely want XFS. Most servers probably still run ext3, the reason for this being that it's very well understood and any tool for dealing with file

Re: [gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-18 Thread deface
widyachacra wrote: what is the best filesystem for a server depends .. if your going to be housing alot (hundreds of thousands) of smaller files, reiser would be good. ext3 is sufficient though. -- gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-server] what is the best filesystem for a server

2008-05-18 Thread widyachacra
what is the best filesystem for a server -- --- PS: This is my private email address. Budu saranay! Sadaham Phitay! Sangha Rekawaranay! {Theruwan Saranay!} - Widyachacra Rajapaksha - -- gentoo-server@lists.gentoo.org mailing list