Mark Loeser wrote:
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
On Sunday 30 March 2008, Mark Loeser wrote:
Actually, I'd say this should just be removed. If a user wants to apply
a patch, they can put their own ebuild into an overlay and do it
themselves (presumably if they want to patch somethin
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
Dear ebuild maintainers,
thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds last
non-keywording change while in the tree and the usual call for
stabilisation. If you cannot find a pressing reason to push
stabilisation forward, then don't ask. In the las
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:09:24 -0700
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti:
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:49 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds
last
It is the norm. It is not a requirement. In fact,
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Hi,
Hi Enrico, long time no see!
b) Marking that two related implementations are mutually incompatible at
runtime because they both provide the same binary.
Classical example: MTA's:
Traditionally they tend to provide an
roblems comes from ebuilds
or upstream ;-o
If you don't know why the blocks nned to be there then why comment on that?
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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
* Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Hi,
Hi Enrico, long time no see!
b) Marking that two related implementations are mutually incompatible at
runtime because they both provide the same binary.
Classical example: MTA's:
Traditionally they tend to provide an
d newline
before the message but I can't think of a use for it myself.
The question is how to name the switch :) "-n" could be confusing as
"echo -n" has the opposite effect. Maybe "-b" for "blank"?
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especially outside of g.o domain
is not the best thing durability-wise :)
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r should be preferred by tools"
++ I suppose you want people to read the package-specific information
and not e.g. fill bug reports caused by wrong assumptions about the
flag's meaning.
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use this processing only for the elog post-processing system
(which I personally think matters more), and during the build itself
emit the newlines immediatelly so that non-elog output is not tied too
closely to ends of elog blocks.
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Łukasz Damentko wrote:
Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be
open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008).
I'd like to nominate:
armin76 (Raúl Porcel)
opfer (Christian Faulhammer)
zmedico (Zac Medico)
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Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:33, Joe Peterson wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote:
Check if exists a line EAPI=*$, if does and the rest of the string
matches an understood eapi, go on sourcing, otherwise ignore/mask it...
And placing it out-of-band (like "# EAPI=...") avoids any so
Apparently, setting USE=x86 in make.conf on amd64 arch can have funny
consequences such as [1]. And I can imagine even more subtle and hard to
detect errors due to this.
I think it's better to prevent this rather than waste time with bug
reports like that. I asked Zac on IRC whether portage could
David Leverton wrote:
> On Saturday 20 September 2008 18:15:27 Alexis Ballier wrote:
>> I can think of checks like:
>> - foo is a dep/rdep of bar
>> - foo has a "plugin like" architecture
>> - bar will "work" with minimal foo
>> - most people will expect some features in bar that come with foo's
>>
Ben de Groot wrote:
> Roy Bamford wrote:
>> It's that time of the month again, time for another BugDay on Saturday
>> 4th September.
>> Read all about it http://bugday.gentoo.org/
>
> Maybe it would be a good idea to update that bugday page? Maybe devs
> could propose some bugs to be looked at?
A
Thomas Sachau wrote:
> I see many ebuild that still use "econf || die", also econf should die by
> itself. Are there any
> specific reasons for this? Some cases where econf does not die also it fails?
> Or some other reason
> for this?
My guess is that due to the general lack of consistency in w
Richard Freeman wrote:
> Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't it make much more sense to package move ksudoku then?
>>
>
> I was thinking the same thing - this is a stable package, so ideally it
> shouldn't be "replaced" with an unstable one. Why not keep -0.4 in the
> tree for stable users?
+
Petteri Räty wrote:
> Now with the right address. Original was CCed to pr already so this is not.
>
> -- Forwarded Message --
>
> Subject: News item: Generation 1 deprecation
> Date: Monday 23 February 2009
> From: Petteri Räty
> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
>
> We are gett
dev-java/ant-tasks was a meta ebuild that is no longer used in 1.7.1 so
it's going away completely
# Vlastimil Babka (30 Apr 2009)
# masked for removal, bug #261563
=dev-java/ant-core-1.7.0*
=dev-java/ant-antlr-1.7.0*
=dev-java/ant-apache-bcel-1.7.0*
=dev-java/ant-apache-bsf-1.7.0*
=dev-jav
Peter Faraday Weller wrote:
On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of
management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more
likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming
nigh-on impossible to keep track of things.
I see a number of i
Hi,
it was brought up by ulm that the news item
'2009-04-18-java-config-wrapper-0.16' has an illegal name because it
contains a dot. As it was me who named and commited it, I am sorry for
this mistake. The file name in -dev review mail was called
'generation1-deprecation' and I probably shoul
.conf variable for allowed
licenses and block based on that?
+1
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ough those can't be deemed the mandatory ones because
they're not directly in python.
So if both MD5 and SHA1 are now insecure but one of them needs to be the
mandatory one, the question is, is it still harder to crack SHA1 than
MD5? If yes, then just forget MD5.
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tched distfile yourself, and compare that with upstream :)
Of course, if you want to verify digests of random packages without
wanting to actually download and use them, then you would miss MD5 in
the manifest, but how likely is that?
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w bout changing this flag to "aoss" and making it new default instead
of oss? mozilla-launcher already has an aoss flag.
Or wait for per-package USE defaults and use it for oss in alsa-driver
as an exception.
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o "system" wouldn't help those people.
This reminded me of this bug [1] we once got about OSX having only 2.59,
not sure if that still holds.
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139899
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Although RESTRICT="non-interactive" sounds weird too, and introducing
new variable would be bloating.
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as well, "reply" is intended to mean "reply to author",
>> and there is a separate "reply to list" function which works on
>> gentoo-core and gentoo-dev just the same.
>
> Well, there's no "reply to list" function in Thunderbird [1], an
Christian Heim wrote:
Please welcome Christian as a new fellow developer among us (and a new minion
for the x86-monkeys)!
Welcome onboard, Opfer :) Glad to see you made it to full dev.
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was arts
flag removed and you know the ebuild didn't actually need/use it, remove
it from IUSE, and possibly USE) and --newuse won't trigger no more.
It's a bit of hack, but works, for user it's the same amount of work as
editing some newuse.mask file, for portage developers it&#
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Marijn Schouten wrote:
> Alexandru Mincu wrote:
> Okay :) flame away
>
Please, not here.
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re totally broken. the gentoo devs of
course claim evrytings perfect ;-o
Care to elaborate and give evidence? For both first and second part of
this statement?
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t" or something, for the
unconditional violations?
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>
> Nice to see yet another guy from Czechoslovakia :). We should really
> meet and go out for a beer...
>
> Cheers,
> -jkt
>
That's right. Too bad he's left Prague already... but Beroun is pretty
close :)
Welcome, fordfrog :)
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the tons of pointless duplicates, non-responsive
> bugzilla and both users' and developers' complaints on IRC. It's wasting
> everyone's time.
>
+1
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Could you take this conversation off the list, please?
Also, for requesting ebuilds there's http://bugs.gentoo.org
Thanks,
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-unsupported arches anyway.
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have not revoked it except in dire circumstances.
>
> Then why are there public archives?
>
Note the subtle difference between "receiving" and "reading in public
archives". Some people may prefer their mail client.
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Steve Long wrote:
I wonder if the CoC should also mention such things (remember also
Enrico Weigelt's mails) as unacceptable behaviour. Or is it already
covered by one of the descriptions although I don't see it?
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o wiki.
Not entirely true, project overlays on overlays.g.o can use the wiki on
trac there. And at least we (Java) use it to hash out new stuff (that's
exactly "content that is likely to change over a short period of time"),
that can be later converted to guidexml (FAQs etc).
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events continue, instead of trying to force any specific
> issue?
Yeah, I don't think it's now helpful to hear that portage sux and
paludis can do $x and $y and $z, over and over again. Someone's little
too early for an election campaign?
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. But I see slot deps without limits only
half of a feature.
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t;> version limit, to make it worth EAPI bump.
>
> Please have a look at the slot dep format proposal. AFAIK none of the
> P{aludis,kgcore,ortage} devs disagreed on that.
Sorry, I thought it was only about what's already implemented in portage
and that's AFAIK only =cat/pac
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> Much to the joy of many I am now retiring from Gentoo.
This sucks.
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uld be added to the respective bugs. Then you (the maintainer)
can easily create (and save) an advanced search that will filter them
out, while still being able to check them in a different search. Might
be also useful for arch teams to separate stabling and keywording bugs?
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public anyway
But it was already said that cross-posting -dev and -core is bad so let
this be the last mail that goes to both, and any further only to -dev.
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other VCS, it would destroy the beauty of atomic commits...
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to the
license's path as provided by elog. For this and other small changes you
should remerge it if you previously had it from java-experimental.
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+# Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (28 Apr 2007)
+# Still generation 1 and stale upstream, library that
+# nothing in tree uses so it's not needed. Will be
+# removed around 28 May. Generation 2 revision is in
+# the java-overlay.
+dev-
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# Stale upstream, library that nothing in tree uses
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# Generation 2 revision is in the java-overlay.
dev-java/jmbus
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+# Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (28 Apr 2007)
+# Unused generation-1 fetch restricted binary libraries.
+# Will be moved to junkyard around 28 May.
+dev-java/sun-connector-bin
+dev-java/sun-dsml-bin
+dev-java/sun-ejb-spec
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less someone cares about this package, needs it,
> uses it, and/or is willing to updated it.
Recalled and unmasked at user's request.
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+# Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (30 Apr 2007)
+# Stale upstream (since 2002), -bin library that nothing in tree uses
+# so it's not needed. Will be removed into java junkyard around 30 May.
+dev-java/dbconnectionbroker-bin
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+# Fetch-restricted binary library that nothing in tree uses, upstream
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nable tests
>> - don't run tests at all
>> Again, is that list comprehensive?
>>
>
> Don't forget tests that have heavy requirements to run. Many gnome
> tests, for example, need a virtual X to run, which puts a new set of
> DEPENDS requirements on your
ement for elog? I thought news were
supposed to be delivered before upgrading. Also "You should update your
configuration files after upgrading." sounds like something one would
read before upgrade...
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24. How likely is that someone has had such
version previously, then uninstalled paludis completely leaving config
files around, and now installs >=0.24? So likely it's worth that future
fresh installs of say 0.50 will display this news too?
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-BEG
_post() feature, not GLEP 42.
glep 42:
Checks for new news messages should be displayed:
* After an emerge sync
* After an emerge --pretend
* Before an emerge (which may also include a red warning
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>
> I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how you justify calling Java a
> dead language.
>
It's not C++ nor Ruby.
Anyway, offtopic :)
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>
> Now, how can we do this? Could we start changing the profiles right now?
> (I guess people on ~arch will need to unmask it to not downgrade).
That can be avoided if you make an artifical revbump that won't change
anything, just have stable ke
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Jim Ramsay wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 07:39 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
>>> Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Or maybe implement new bugzilla keywords, like STABLEREQ and
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> On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:23:56PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Bug was fixed yesterday, keywords added, so to let you know. I would of
>> course love to go now and add these keywords to all my (java) curr
e key is installed by ebuild). Trialware otherwise. You can
request such license for any FOSS project.
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where a user can work on.
> I think a keyword might be more useful, as at least with my bugs, I'd
> like to keep them open myself - if the user doesn't provide a patch,
> it's still something that I'd get around to doing eventually.
>
> I specifically want my
ported by
package AND enabled by user? Some of those local flag descriptions
suggest that USE="firefox xulrunner" results in using xulrunner (so it
has higher priority). So is that recommended, and how about seamonkey?
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Kumba wrote:
> And maybe a dev who
> secretly dabbles in another OSlike Wind...err, Ubuntu!
I thought this position has been already filled :)
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to be?
>
> Isn't this the reason it was approved by the previous Council?
Well the difference is that AFAIK Sunrise is just for maintainer-wanted
stuff that's not in the tree yet, but Michael talks about (rev)bumps of
stuff that's already in tree.
Personally I think that pr
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> Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Raúl Porcel wrote:
>>> Agreed from mozilla.
>>> firefox and seamonkey already have the global use-flag
>> Is there any guideline from mozilla team about what to do when th
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+# Outdated version, proprietary binary package, library that nothing in
tree
+# uses. Still generation-1. Assuming nobody needs it as there was never a
+# version bump request. Will be r
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+# Outdated version, proprietary binary package, library that nothing in
tree
+# uses. Still generation-1. Assuming nobody needs it as there was never a
+# version bump request. Will be r
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> +# Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jun 2007)
> +# Outdated version, proprietary binary package, library that nothing in
> tree
> +# uses. Still generation-1. Assuming nobody needs it as there was ne
en filling bugs for
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Thilo Bangert wrote:
> I want a gentoo-kindergarten list, where useless discussions like this
> (sub)thread can be directed to.
>
> kids, grow up!
right
s/gentoo-//
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Gustavo Felisberto wrote:
> Any alternatives?
Drop it from stable completely, possibly package.mask or move to
overlay. Why should this closed-source rootkit be in stable?
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h() via einfo, telling users they either find the distfile
themselves (might have it on another computer, or get from a friend or
just maybe have luck with google) or use the ~arch 1.4. This won't
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Abhay Kedia wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 Jun 2007 10:11:24 pm Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> Drop it from stable completely, possibly package.mask or move to
>> overlay. Why should this closed-source rootkit be in stable?
>>
> If close
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Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 6/14/07, Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Also, ion3 was IIRC removed recently also for upstream trying to force
>> new versions against our stable policy. And that was opensource.
ll be back. Love the distro, but Jesus the
> politics and the bitching gets out.
Just unsubscribe the list and you won't see it :)
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on is, does this make sense? Is something like this
> planned for some EAPI>0? Would it be appropriate for me (a non-dev) to
> file a bug and link it to SpanKy's "EAPI-1 tracker" bug?
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e loops were already solved in some recent version?
Now it spits some error about conflicting deps that cause that.
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rly tested yet.
>
> Users will see that stuff that used to work for them is broken now.
> That's a regression that could have been avoided if Skype wasn't marked
> stable.
>
> It could be interesting to evaluate a new rule "fetch/mirror restricted
> package can'
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for dev-java/ibm-jdk-bin-1.5.0.5 ...
[ ok ]
* Packages now in '/usr/portage-packages':
* dev-java/ibm-jdk-bin-1.5.0.5: 50.9M
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ing package for dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r5 ...[ ok
>> ]
>>
>> * Packages now in '/usr/portage/packages':
>> * dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r5: 188K
>> -mike
>
> Please do the same for qpkg.c
> tia.
And for emerge -b/-B/FEATURES=buildpkg.
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*ies4linux-2.0.5 (21 Jun 2007)
21 Jun 2007; Jurek Bartuszek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Initial version (closing bug #143798), credit goes Mathieu Bonnet
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it's forgotten again?
Or do we need a GLEP and/or council approval?
(just kidding)
((hopefully))
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Ryan Hill wrote:
> Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
>> Vieri Di Paola wrote:
>>> The two software packages depend at run-time.
>> then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The package manager should do the
>> right thing.
>
> It doesn't. See freetype
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Raúl Porcel wrote:
> good, now my nick is armin79 :D
Lies! No way your karma would go up! Cheater!
armin79--
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You're good now.
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nondevs from bugzilla then? Close
#gentoo, disband PR, etc? Not sure if we can keep any sponsors then...
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ong as the temperature is somewhere in the middle of
linear scale between freezing water and average healthy human body
temperature. And not higher than the latter, as nowadays!
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Comme
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Steve Long wrote:
> And no, I don't like being lumped in with Mr McCreesh.
Why would anyone do that? His trolling is sophisticated, but you're just
an annoying spammer.
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rlay bumps and bugzilla reports on
version bump that just renaming the ebuild works?). OTOH, while this
might be useful for more than few packages (I can also think of some),
it's not too many to clutter the tree significantly.
> Or am I missing something?
>
> Cheers,
> -jkt
&g
r-set -mtune then? Since AFAIK -march
implies -mtune, will also the default -march override user-set -mtune?
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[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186156
>
> Thanks
As you wish! [1] :)
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_activity.cgi?id=186156
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hus it would cause circular deps. PDEPEND is a way to
relax this for such cases.
If this is what you call RDEPEND conceptually broken, then sorry for
useles try to explain it :) Maybe package manager could be smart enough
and relax the RDEPEND in such cases itself, maybe it's better to sa
check whether the file has simply been moved, by either correcting the
path or removing the filename from the dodoc call.
dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before
commiting a bump, IMHO
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Alec Warner wrote:
>> perhaps it'd be useful to introduce an "anal_die". developers run anal
>> tests,
>> users get sane tests.
>> -mike
>>
>>
>
> Anal ftw
>
> -Alec
Also known a
indication that I should use it locally pr. package.
Right, as mentioned above, there is no relation, although the
"global/local" notion may suggest it. One might even ask why we have
separate use.desc and use.local.desc then. Good question :) IMHO it's
mostly administrative thing so people
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