[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:31:20 +0100 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > over the course of the years the x86 (and other architectures as well) > has given away permissions to maintainers/teams to mark packages > stable themselves. As there never was a definitive list what > exceptions exist, I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Slacker arches

2011-01-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:38:03 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Every arch teams should stabilise OR write out reason why they can't do > so to stable bug in 90 days. If any arch team fails to do so the > maintainer can decide to drop their keywords to testing. Given depgraph > breakages the maintainer

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:30:12 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:19:51 -0600 > Jeremy Olexa wrote: > > Probably OT, sorry. Isn't it time we gained this concept of "noarch" > > for packages that only install text files or packages that don't > > compile anything... > > No, s

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Removing profiles/use.local.desc file from CVS on 2011-02-11

2011-02-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:04:03 +0100 Luca Longinotti wrote: > On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:50:20 -0600 > Jeremy Olexa wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > The CVS->RSYNC service has moved hosts and now we generate the > > use.local.desc file via egencache. > > Hi, could any of this cause a (kinda) full res

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Removing profiles/use.local.desc file from CVS on 2011-02-11

2011-02-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:09:30 +0100 Luca Longinotti wrote: > On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:47:55 +0100 > Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > > > Le dimanche 06 février 2011 à 23:52 -0600, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : > > > As for the "re-syncing all files thing" - I can't reproduce that, > > > though I've seen mul

[gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.13 news item?

2011-02-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:52:55 +0100 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > It seems that with glibc-2.13 there are some serious compatibility > issues. There are good warnings on the planet > (http://psykil.livejournal.com/340806.html), but not every ~arch user > reads the planet, so how about creating news

[gentoo-dev] Re: Policy for conflicting USE flags

2011-02-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:29:11 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > EAPI 4 introduced the REQUIRED_USE variable, which allows to impose > restrictions on the allowed USE flag combinations for an ebuild. > > On the other hand, according to the devmanual, our policy on > conflicting USE flags is as follows:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Policy for conflicting USE flags

2011-02-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:04:11 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Maybe we also need a guideline that whenever possible, ebuilds should > accept the default USE flags from our profiles as a valid combination? > Or, in the exceptional case when that isn't possible, a package.use > entry should be added to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: app-pda/libopensync and reverse dependencies

2011-02-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:23:08 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > # Samuli Suominen (10 Feb 2011) > # Unmaintained and completely broken wrt bugs > # 185475, 211262, 247268, 276220, 287751, 293501, 298109, > # 301729, 308801, 311763, 311765, 328691, 340605, 348483, > # 352506, 237366, 250054 > # Remov

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: app-pda/libopensync and reverse dependencies

2011-02-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:49:53 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno gio, 10/02/2011 alle 14.08 -0600, Ryan Hill ha scritto: > > Hey, here's an idea. Before you go making big masks like this for > > packages > > several people depend on, maybe try looking for a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Downgrading glibc?

2011-02-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:24:14 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 14.23 +0100, Michael Haubenwallner ha > scritto: > > > > But both that document as well as uncountable lines of source code are > > rather old. > > While the source code isn't that large a problem for G

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: app-pda/libopensync and reverse dependencies

2011-02-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:40:53 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 02/10/2011 11:03 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > I'm not sure if you understand opensync then, there's 3-4 series in tree > and mostly not compatible with each other: > 0.22, 0.36, 0.39 and latest being live . 0.39 is fixed. 0.3

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:37:27 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > Have you thought about doing something like what was done for wxwidgets ? > > - an eselect module for out of portage builds > - an eclass creating symlinks for libpng.pc/.so in $T and setting the correct > -L flag for the linker and PKG

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/libva: ChangeLog libva-1.0.10.ebuild

2011-03-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:23:03 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > 1) it has freedesktop web page, and we should preffer fdo alternatives > anyway > 2) it has existing git repo (could not find repo for the va you use) > 3) debian/archlinux/fedora use this one I commited, not former one. > 4) the bug was re

[gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla - New Default Status Workflow

2011-03-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 04:52:19 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:06:54 +0100 > Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: > > > > Status = NEW && Assignee = bug-wranglers -> Status = UNCONFIRMED > > > Status = NEW && Assignee = [maintainer] -> Status = CONFIRMED > > > > Who confirms the bug?

[gentoo-dev] Re: Quantity of open bugs

2011-03-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:25:10 + "Kevin F. Quinn" wrote: > I would guess these old untouched bugs aren't actually going to be > touched, ever - a lot simply won't be relevant any more for one reason > or another. All they're doing is cluttering up bugzilla. I never understand this argument.

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-p2p/bittorrent

2011-03-11 Thread Ryan Hill
# Ryan Hill (12 Mar 2011) # Mask net-p2p/bittorrent for removal 20110412 (#336166) # Dead upstream. Requires wxpython-2.6 which is being removed. # Doesn't build with python-2.6. Doesn't start. net-p2p/bittorrent -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it make

[gentoo-dev] Re: virtualx eclass possible issue

2011-03-12 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:37:28 +0100 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > Shouldn't that last line look more like this (notice $retval instead of $?): > > [[ $retval -ne 0 ]] && die "${FUNCNAME}: the ${VIRTALX_COMMAND} failed." Sure looks like it to me. -- fonts, gcc-porting, it m

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-p2p/bittorrent

2011-03-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:27:21 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill (12 Mar 2011) > # Mask net-p2p/bittorrent for removal 20110412 (#336166) > # Dead upstream. Requires wxpython-2.6 which is being removed. > # Doesn't build with python-2.6. Doesn't start. > net-p2p/b

[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES=test, sys-devel/gcc ignored test failures

2011-03-21 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:07:33 +0100 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > sys-devel/gcc runs tests, but the results are ignored and I remember the > tests fail most of the time. s/most/all > Because the tests take long time to run and fail anyway (I understand > it's non-trivial to fix those on Gentoo s

[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES=test, sys-devel/gcc ignored test failures

2011-03-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:09:46 +0100 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 3/21/11 11:02 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > It does to me, I use them all the time. ;) The important part is that we > > install the test results, which can then be used for regression testing when > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: git-2.eclass final review

2011-03-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:08:53 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > rsync -rlpgo . "${EGIT_SOURCEDIR}" \ > > this means you need to have DEPEND="net-misc/rsync". why not just use > `cp -pPR` instead ? i vaguely recall rsync being slower than a > straight cp too ... not much point of doing a rsync wh

[gentoo-dev] Re: git-2.eclass final review

2011-03-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:41:27 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:08:53 -0400 > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > rsync -rlpgo . "${EGIT_SOURCEDIR}" \ > > > > this means you need to have DEPEND="net-misc/rsync". why not just use

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml

2011-03-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:09:09 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 01:17:46PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > >> I propose that we should be more aggressive about package.masking (for > >> removal) all maintainer-nee

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/PyZilla: PyZilla-0.1.0.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml

2011-03-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:55:14 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > The current problem is burnt-out or semi-active devs who commit > occasionally, but aren't able to help with any herd-related work > because they're out of touch. As such, their presence in the team > gives a false indication of strengt

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: postgresql.eselect

2011-03-29 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:05:01 -0400 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > > - Suppressing stdout of commands like "do_action env update" is fine, > > but why suppress stderr? > > > Because 'ls' would complain that files didn't exist, such as lib*.dylib > when on a Linux system. It doesn't matter. But, us

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: postgresql.eselect

2011-03-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:00:21 -0400 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > As for the lib_dir(), I'm unsure if that's a good way to handle things. > Or, if it's really the best way, even though it's ugly. There's nothing > preventing me from making it a user configurable...it's just that at > some point I do

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.6.0

2011-04-02 Thread Ryan Hill
I just added 4.6.0 to the tree. We probably won't be unmasking it any time soon (after 4.6.1 for sure), but please start testing your packages now so we can get things rolling. http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.6/changes.html For general testing you may want to add the gcc-porting overlay to avoid known

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.6.0

2011-04-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 05:50:32 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Ryan Hill posted on Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:11:12 -0600 as excerpted: > > > You may also want to test your packages with the new -Ofast option to > > be sure it doesn't have any hardcod

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - app-text/gnochm

2011-04-23 Thread Ryan Hill
Masked for removal in 30 days. The last release was 2007 and there better alternatives for every toolkit (chmsee (gtk), kchmviewer (qt), xchm (wxGTK)). -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it makes no sense toolchain, wxwidgets but i'll take it

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:31:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > I am quite getting annoyed by bugzilla attached outputs in various > interesting languages like Portugalese or French. I can read Russian so > that is at least bit ok :) > > I can

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:57:06 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Alternatively, portage could alert the user to submit bug reports only > with a C or English locale if a different one is detected. +1 -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it makes no sense toolc

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:02:37 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:05:03 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > You want to force English on all our users because you can't be > > bothered to ask a reporter to repost an error message using LC_ALL=C? > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:26:02 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:47:46 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > Are you saying you are setting up the tree-wide project that > > > automatically translates LC_MESSAGES? Round of applause! > > > > N

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-28 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:00:23 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:10:55 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > See, you're thinking primarily in terms of bugzilla. Like the only > > reason someone would want to see this stuff is to paste it to a bug > > r

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/nspluginwrapper: ChangeLog nspluginwrapper-1.4.4-r1.ebuild nspluginwrapper-1.3.0.ebuild

2011-07-12 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:00:41 + (UTC) "Patrick McLean (chutzpah)" wrote: > chutzpah11/07/11 15:00:41 > > Modified: ChangeLog > Added:nspluginwrapper-1.4.4-r1.ebuild > Removed: nspluginwrapper-1.3.0.ebuild > Log: > Revision bump, workaroun

[gentoo-dev] Re: recent change in wxwidgets.eclass potentially breaks packages

2011-07-17 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:19:31 +0200 justin wrote: > On 17/07/11 11:16, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:05:39 +0200 > > justin wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> the following change has some bad effects on packages in the tree. I > >> found it with a package having this inherit lin

[gentoo-dev] Re: removing ebuilds

2011-07-31 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 05:29:52 -0400 Michael Sterrett wrote: > Just as a reminder - you can't break the stable tree by removing > ebuilds even if there's a big scary security bug. Well it wasn't done on purpose. > I restored the latest stable ebuild until the arch teams do their > thing for bu

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.6 unmasking

2011-09-23 Thread Ryan Hill
Now that I finally have some time for Gentoo.I'd like to get GCC 4.6 unmasked sometime in the next month. Thanks to everyone but me, we only have a few bugs remaining on the tracker. None of them I consider critical except maybe mplayer (I'd like someone from media-video to look at applying that

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.6 unmasking

2011-09-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:10:13 +0200 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno ven, 23/09/2011 alle 20.38 -0600, Ryan Hill ha scritto: > > If you have any issues with 4.6 itself or patches you need applied, > > now is > > the time to speak up. > > There should be alread

[gentoo-dev] Re: Candidates for global USE flags

2011-10-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:19:26 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >17 tools > > 9 utils > > tools, and utils, what's the difference? perhaps pick one and unify them > into global USE flag Saying what? "Install optional tools or utilities." That's pretty useless as far as descriptions go

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:33:07 + Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Hi guys > > There is some FUD regarding GCC upgrades and I don't have the proper > knowledge to write a correct document on GCC upgrades. As you are currently > aware, we have a GCC upgrade guide [1], but it has seen its last update in >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:41:15 +0100 Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 10/08/11 22:45, Matt Turner wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras > > wrote: > >> On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > >>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:33:15 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > It's not like fastened lastriting hasn't happened before. I question > your motives in picking this particular one. It's not like I expected > cookies for the time I've put into this porting effort, but not this > "attack" either. Then

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:27:04 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > The problem generally occurs when I decided I've waited long enough for a > long released upstream gcc (4.x.1 and often 4.x.2 are released already!) > to get unmasked even to ~arch. Of course, having been thru this

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:52:42 +0100 Markos Chandras wrote: > Seems like none of you ever bothered to read the bug about pngcrush > and what was discussed there. It is getting a little bit of a habit to > escalate minor problems to flames in Gentoo. So feel free to > write/say/do whatever you want(

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:09:21 +0100 Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 10/11/11 04:00, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:33:15 +0300 Samuli Suominen > > wrote: > > > >> It's not like f

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:41:21 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > > Isn't this the same situation with gcc stabilizations? Once the > > timeframe for fixing broken packages with e.g gcc-4.5 is passed, the > > remaining broken packages will be gone. > > Absolutely not. They a

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:01:50 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Title: Upgrade to libpng15 > Author: Samuli Suominen > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2011-10-14 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Installed: > After upgrading from libpng14 to libpng15 it's important that you reb

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:01:50 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Title: Upgrade to libpng15 > Author: Samuli Suominen > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2011-10-14 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Installed: > After upgrading from libpng14 to libpng15 it's important that you reb

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:17:17 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Ocne you have identified the broken files, you can either delete them, ^ > edit them in place and replace png14 with png15, or re-emerge the packages Otherwise good. -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it

[gentoo-dev] Re: Moving more hardening features to default?

2011-10-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:40:43 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > USE=hardened refers to only toolchain hardening. The problems there are > mostly packages which break with PIE because they (ab)use assembly. > Things like virtualbox and some codecs. This can become a thorny mess. > > It would p

[gentoo-dev] Re: Building hardened gcc specs always, just not enabling them by default

2011-10-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:26:01 +0200 ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > On 10/24/11 12:58 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > Well not totally on their own, they'd report it and we'd have to see > > what we want to do on an ad hoc basis. > > Fair enough, that's why I suggested to make the hardened spec >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Council] ChangeLog generation within Gentoo

2011-10-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:33:56 +0200 Bruno wrote: > Is there some guideline about old entries in the ChangeLog? > > Over the past months ChangeLogs represent a big part of the tree, some > of them being pretty big and going back many changes (hundreds of them) > and years (even for actively mainta

[gentoo-dev] Re: hardened glibc and gcc dependencies

2011-10-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:03:12 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > So, I honestly see no reason why toolchain should not start using EAPI 2. I await your patch to toolchain.eclass. :P -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it makes no sense toolchain, wxwidgets

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sed script redundancy

2011-10-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 20 May 2011 17:39:22 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > for a while now I've been wondering if all those sed scripts in all > those ebuilds are really effective. > > To find out, I've tried a couple of angles on a sed hook that basically > dissects the sed command line provided, divides every

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.6 unmasking

2011-10-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:38:32 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > Now that I finally have some time for Gentoo.I'd like to get GCC 4.6 unmasked > sometime in the next month. Thanks to everyone but me, we only have a few > bugs remaining on the tracker. None of them I consider critica

[gentoo-dev] Re: hardened glibc and gcc dependencies

2011-10-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:24:12 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > On 28.10.2011 2.50, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 01:47, Ryan Hill wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:03:12 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > >>> So, I honestly see no reason why toolchain

[gentoo-dev] Re: Old changelogs / eclass dir

2011-10-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:46:30 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > Dear all, > > two small suggestions regarding ChangeLogs: > > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory? > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical > reasons... Should we still start one?

[gentoo-dev] Re: Old changelogs / eclass dir

2011-10-31 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:39:39 + Markos Chandras wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 10/31/2011 05:45 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:46:30 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" > > wrote: > > > >> Dea

[gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog in eclass dir (was: Old changelogs / eclass dir)

2011-11-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:11:46 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > Dear all, > > > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory? > > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical > > reasons... Should we still start one? > > as there was only positive feedback to

[gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog in eclass dir (was: Old changelogs / eclass dir)

2011-11-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:41:29 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > On Donnerstag 03 November 2011 01:42:44 Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:11:46 +0100 > > > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > > as there was only positive feedback to this

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] enable verbose build whenever it's possible

2011-11-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:58:00 +0100 Kacper Kowalik wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to ask that we enable verbose building by default. I have > cmake-utils.eclass in mind, because it's dead easy there, but there's a > lot of packages that support things like "make V=1" or "make VERBOSE=1" too. > > I've se

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] enable verbose build whenever it's possible

2011-11-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:00:32 +0100 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > I've seen too many bugs reports today that gave me cute, colorful > > build.logs and almost no information about underlaying bug... > > That's usually because users sometimes attach only "relevant" parts of build > log (well, relevan

[gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default

2011-11-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:56:22 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 10 November 2011 20:39:11 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 10 November 2011 19:09:28 Luca Barbato wrote: > > > That could be done, but I'd advise to make sure our users know that the > > > could have a quiet/silent output

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.6 unmasking

2011-11-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:22:17 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > 4.6.2 is now in the tree. It will be unmasked next weekend. Yeah I'm a tease. Looks like we have enough issues that I want to do another patchset. We also have showstopper bugs in grub:0 and libmpeg2 that need looking at. As al

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: =wxGTK-2.6* and =wxpython-2.6*

2011-11-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:33:40 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > # Samuli Suominen (12 Nov 2011) > # Masked for removal in 30 days wrt bug 330683. Use at least 2.8. > =dev-python/wxpython-2.6* > =dev-python/wxpython-docs-2.6* > =x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6* Thanks again. If anyone wants to take over mainta

[gentoo-dev] Re: conversion of USE=nocxx to USE=cxx

2011-11-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:42:39 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > www-client/google-chrome has RDEPEND=">=sys-devel/gcc-4.4.0[-nocxx]" to > ensure that we have a recent version of libstdc++. We basically need to > match Ubuntu LTS since that is what Google builds with. E. -- fonts, gcc-porting,

[gentoo-dev] Re: filter-mfpmath: has Gentoo out grown it ?

2011-12-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:36:16 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > I've never thought of -mfpmath=sse as a "ricer" flag. If anything, it > should make floating point calculations more consistent. Not really. It's it's extremely target processor dependent and generally the defaults are the best settings.

[gentoo-dev] Re: So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 04:50:00 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have > been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both > bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative > that every developer sh

[gentoo-dev] Re: So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:51:09 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:51:17 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > How many times have you needed to request build logs in english since > > the last time you brought this up? How many times have you had to > > req

[gentoo-dev] Re: So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:58:06 +0100 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > I too think it is sufficient to have > LC_MESSAGES=C > in the default make.conf (or somewhere else where the user can easily > change it), with a comment to leave it like this for build.log when > reporting bugs. Now that I

[gentoo-dev] Re: {bi,multi}arch support for all x86/amd64/ppc/sparc systems

2011-12-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:12:37 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > 2) What about grub-2, and while we're on it, is a switch to that expected > any time soon, and/or is there a grub-static-2 in the wings? With the > grub-1 gpt patches (and hopefully btrfs support at some point) I'm n

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2011-12-31 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 19:59:47 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > Udev, kmod (which is a replacement for module-init-tools which will be needed > by >=udev-176), systemd, and soon others, are advocating a major change > to the locations where binaries and libraries are stored on linux > systems. > > The

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.6 status

2012-01-03 Thread Ryan Hill
A bunch of users have been emailing me asking when 4.6 will be unmasked. I really want to get it out the door already but we have a (IMO) substantial blocker. A small number of users have reported that grub built with 4.6 fails to boot their systems. See the last half of bug #360513 for details.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sci-electronics/gtkwave: ChangeLog gtkwave-3.3.28.ebuild

2012-01-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 16:22:24 + (UTC) "Thomas Beierlein (tomjbe)" wrote: > tomjbe 12/01/08 16:22:24 > > Modified: ChangeLog > Added:gtkwave-3.3.28.ebuild > Log: > Strip flags (bug #377935). Version bump. Drop old unstable versions Please avoid doing t

[gentoo-dev] Keeping older versions around

2012-01-28 Thread Ryan Hill
I've run into this three times today, so I'm a little grumpy. When you bump to a new ~arch version, please consider keeping at least one previous ~arch version around, so if people run into major issues they can at lease try the previously installed version to determine if it's your package at fau

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping localepurge

2012-01-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:58:30 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > A question about LINGUAS settings, or the documentation thereof. The > URL you pointed to says "LINGUAS should then contain a space separated > list of two-letter codes, stating which languages are allowed.". But > "emerge -pv firefox"

[gentoo-dev] Re: The following USE changes are necessary to proceed - Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0800 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed: > #required by net-libs/gnutls-2.12.16[nettle], required by gnutls (argument) > >=dev-libs/nettle-2.4 gmp I've been tripped up by this in the past. Can we change the order of the lines

[gentoo-dev] Re: The following USE changes are necessary to proceed - Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:20:30 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 02/10/2012 06:17 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:50:39 -0800 > > Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > > > >> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed: > >> #required by net-libs/gnu

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global use flag: ayatana

2012-02-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:44:41 + Markos Chandras wrote: > Just a heads up. There are more than 5 packages using the 'ayatana' > use flag so I will add it to global use flags in 48 hours. Post the description so we can bikeshed it to death. -- fonts, gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets @ gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global use flag: ayatana

2012-02-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:47:01 + Markos Chandras wrote: > > Post the description so we can bikeshed it to death. > You got me. I did not post it on purpose to avoid all the bikeshedding > for no reason. The flag is now global so the description is: ;) > ayatana - Build in support for Ayatan

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages/build systems not honoring LINGUAS and a sane solution

2012-02-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:58:06 +0100 Piotr Szymaniak wrote: > localepurge will be removed from portage [1]. As I was (/am) heavy > user of it I found it funny that "linguas takes care of the proper > locale installation" [2]. Maybe it should, but there's some major > failure in lots of packages. I

[gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:34:14 +0100 Pacho Ramos wrote: > I don't know if this has been discussed before but, what issues are > preventing us from unmasking gcc-4.6 (and think on a near > stabilization)? > > I have read hardmask message but it simply explains that it's masked for > testing purpose

[gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:30:40 -0500 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 19:03 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > Grub is the only blocker. I don't want to unmask something that makes > > people's systems unbootable. > > > > I'm also out of

[gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:17:30 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 02/20/2012 05:03 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:34:14 +0100 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > >> I don't know if this has been discussed before but, what issues are > >> preventi

[gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:37:39 -0500 Richard Yao wrote: > Ryan, > > I took a look at the problem cited in your bug report. I suggest > compiling sys-boot/grub with CFLAGS="-O0 -ggdb3", attaching gdb to > grub-install and then watching what happens in the debugger. If you > compare runs with a GCC

[gentoo-dev] Re: About gcc-4.6 unmasking

2012-02-21 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:26:38 +0100 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El lun, 20-02-2012 a las 20:02 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:17:30 -0800 > > Zac Medico wrote: > > > > > On 02/20/2012 05:03 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 F

[gentoo-dev] Re: Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-19 Thread Ryan Hill
I just got this warning and had to do some digging to figure out where it came from and what it wanted me to do. Can you add a comment to the eclass (maybe a link to your mail which explained things well) and a pointer to the eclass in the message? -- Ryan Hillpsn: dirtye

[gentoo-dev] Re: Git Migration: go-live!

2015-08-09 Thread Ryan Hill
or the moment, they will re-open > tomorrow. So for someone who hasn't been following any of this, is there an idiot's guide on how make the Gentoo? -- Ryan Hillpsn: dirtyepic_sk gcc-porting/toolchain/wxwidgets @ gentoo.org 47C3 6D62 4864 0E49 8E9E 7F92 ED38 BD49 957A 8463 pgpgeqSe7dvLl.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: Git Migration: go-live!

2015-08-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 13:22:43 +0200 hasufell wrote: > On 08/09/2015 12:16 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 05:36:16 + > > "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 05:47:14PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >>&g

[gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git (WAS: Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: sci-libs/opencascade/)

2015-08-09 Thread Ryan Hill
. Bug number can be easily typed, URL has to be copied or > generated by some tool. > 3. Too many text, hard to read. Some bugs may refer to a dozen of > URLs. > 4. It is easier to copy a number, than selecting and copying whole > string. Not all terminals support running browser on

[gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git

2015-08-09 Thread Ryan Hill
s URL > > equivalent. > > > > So, would this replace the bug number reference in the summary? Should > we tell people to reference the bug only in the commit message description? > > Or do we say: > * bug number in summary optional > * bug number in description mand

[gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git

2015-08-10 Thread Ryan Hill
I would like to see this be more common: --- cat-pkg: Make the thingy work again. Gentoo-Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/504321 or 504321 Idon'tcarewhich If we're limiting the summary to 1 line, 70-75 chars, manditory cat/package and bug number there's not a lot of room to summari

[gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git (WAS: Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: sci-libs/opencascade/)

2015-08-10 Thread Ryan Hill
ognition. Try it out. > 3. A lot of duplicated and useless information consumes time and > space, irritating people. Arg, that is so irritating how I have easily-clickable machine-parsable links in my git log. Look at all the space we could have saved! How much time have I wasted readin

[gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git

2015-08-12 Thread Ryan Hill
d to https://bugs.gentoo.org/333531 (or whatever is decided on). That way everyone can use whatever they like best and it'll all come out consistent. -- Ryan Hillpsn: dirtyepic_sk gcc-porting/toolchain/wxwidgets @ gentoo.org 47C3 6D62 4864 0E49 8E9E 7F92 ED38 B

[gentoo-dev] Re: Referencing bug reports in git

2015-08-17 Thread Ryan Hill
't care. "Bug" gets the job done. I don't care that much either. We never had URLs in the changelogs before so it's not like we're losing anything. -- Ryan Hillpsn: dirtyepic_sk gcc-porting/toolchain/wxwidgets @ gentoo.org 47C3 6D62 48

[gentoo-dev] Re: how to add a new package with git?

2015-09-06 Thread Ryan Hill
ere, but what is this warning? A couple days ago I started seeing it every time I sync even though I've yet to push anything to git. -- Ryan Hillpsn: dirtyepic_sk gcc-porting/toolchain/wxwidgets @ gentoo.org 47C3 6D62 4864 0E49 8E9E 7F92 ED38 BD49 957A 8463 p

[gentoo-dev] Re: ALLARCHES and the maintainer action(s)

2015-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
> [0] I am pretty sure some arches will want to opt out of this > scheme, at least for some more critical packages. ALLARCHES shouldn't be used on critical packages. -- Ryan Hillpsn: dirtyepic_sk gcc-porting/toolchain/wxwidgets @ gentoo.org 47C3 6D62 4

[gentoo-dev] Re: moving gcc-5.2 to unstable

2015-10-02 Thread Ryan Hill
have to emerge -e @world after this one or they could have a bad time. FWIW I updated one system from 4.9 to 5.2 by rebuilding ~700 packages in random order just to see how bad the ABI breakage would be and only ran into it once. I may have just gotten lucky though. -- Ryan Hill

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