Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/dvdrip

2005-12-08 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 08 December 2005 20:23, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 08 December 2005 21:10, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > so the video herd policy is to remove packages until you're left with > > a small enough subset of packages you can handle ? > > No, it's to remove the packages that

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Roy Marples
uld love to get resolved before > 2006.0's release, and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12 > isn't exactly the best plan for this. Got bug numbers? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stepping aside...

2005-12-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 23 December 2005 20:17, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Friday 23 December 2005 16:44, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > It is with deep regret that I want to inform you about my decision to > > step down from the position of Gentoo Documentation lead. > > May I with this email thank you for the marve

[gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Roy Marples
s we can't. So instead of start-stop-daemon --stop -s HUP -p /var/run/dnsmasq.pid we need to write kill -s HUP $(< /var/run/dnsmasq.pid) Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 January 2006 12:40, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:32:32PM +0000, Roy Marples wrote: > > So, the question now must be, do we allow start-stop-daemon to defy > > calling logic and NOT stop a daemon? How do we know we're not supposed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 January 2006 14:22, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 09 January 2006 07:32, Roy Marples wrote: > > It's been brought to my attention that dnsmasq and acpid use > > start-stop-daemon to send custom signals such as HUP. While this works > > with baselayout-1

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout 1.12 and runlevel changes Was: init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 08:19, Duncan wrote: > Roy Marples posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > > below, on Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:32:32 +: > > baelayout-1.12 is a bit more strict about things. If you ask something to > > --stop it stops regardless. > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: baselayout 1.12 and runlevel changes Was: init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 17:11, Duncan wrote: > So that means don't bother filing a bug, then, as you are already working > on it? The fix is already comitted to our svn repo. File a bug if it still doesn't work when baselayout-1.12.0_pre14 hits portage. Thanks -- Roy

Re: [gentoo-dev] init scripts and custom signals

2006-01-10 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 January 2006 14:22, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 09 January 2006 07:32, Roy Marples wrote: > > It's been brought to my attention that dnsmasq and acpid use > > start-stop-daemon to send custom signals such as HUP. While this works > > with baselayout-1

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to turn off hardened gcc flags reliably?

2006-03-01 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 01 March 2006 17:41, solar wrote: > On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 17:17 +, Duncan Coutts wrote: > > I presume it's a gentoo patch to gcc-4 to add back in > > -fno-stack-protector? > > For the 4.0.x it should be just a dummy call. > For 4.1 it is included. What does change and is really unc

[gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Roy Marples
olvconf allows each package to inject dns setup without being reliant on baselayout. So baselayout-1.12.0_pre17 will be a fair bit lighter! Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Roy Marples
und. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: who renamed adsl-start to pppoe-start and why

2006-03-31 Thread Roy Marples
On Saturday 01 April 2006 02:56, Philip Webb wrote: > 060331 Jakub Moc wrote: > > Sven Köhler wrote: > >> I don't when the init.d-script disappeared from the ebuilds: > >> i still used it and didn't know about the baselayout-support for pppoe. > > > > May I suggest reading the fine handbook? > > ht

[gentoo-dev] SIGTERM vs SIGINT

2006-04-04 Thread Roy Marples
has no adverse effects so far. So .. thoughts? Good or bad idea? Reasons and explanations welcome :) -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

2006-04-07 Thread Roy Marples
there can chime in with > their experiences (i almost got rajiv to ride piggy back ... maybe next > year) -mike Sounds like you had a blast! How about a nice writeup for GWN? Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux Developer -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
t;yes|no|net.wlan !net.*" The reason I'm asking is that the last baselayout patch I did changed from yes|no to a pure list match, RC_COLDPLUG="*" and I'm not sure if I like it or not. Thanks for your thoughts :) -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 10:37, Jakub Moc wrote: > Roy Marples wrote: > > RC_HOTPLUG="yes|no" > > RC_COLDPLUG="yes|no" > > RC_PLUG_SERVICES="net.wlan !net.*" > > > > or > > > > RC_HOTPLUG="yes|no|net.wlan !net.

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 10:33, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:13:58AM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > RC_HOTPLUG="yes|no" > > RC_COLDPLUG="yes|no" > > RC_PLUG_SERVICES="net.wlan !net.*" > > I like this idea mu

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:57, Roy Marples wrote: > Attached is a patch to pre19-r1 that does this. Of course, everyone spotted the obvious mistake where RC_HOTPLUG="no" didn't work with that patch. This should - heh. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
m, maybe you don't understand then :) If coldplug adds net services to the boot runlevel then the firewall script needs to be in the boot runlevel. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 13:35, Jakub Moc wrote: > I do understand, however ignoring runlevels settings is in itself a > coldplug bug. :) So don't use coldplug then! RC_COLDPLUG="no" unless you're on pre19-r1 where it's "!*" -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PR

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Roy Marples
so if anyone can think of a better name for baselayout to use instead of RC_COLDPLUG and RC_HOTPLUG now is a good time to speak. I kinda like them myself though as they make sense to me :) -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-04 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 19:27, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:22:39PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 12:26, Jakub Moc wrote: > > > Well, it should not be loaded first of all... Hence why I want to have > > > an ability to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-10 Thread Roy Marples
essary'. Please > discuss it first. Surely you don't include package.mask, use.local.dec in that list do you? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion

2006-05-11 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 11 May 2006 12:45, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 11 May 2006 06:44, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > or because reading GLEP 42 is boooring > > s/42 /s/ s/is/are/ -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Roy Marples
rating an externally > written package manager we have no influence on whatsoever - otherwise > it would just be fair to do everything any other Gentoo based > distribution demands from us as well. Tell you what, you figure out the internals of baselayout or we'll remove it from the tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding Request

2006-05-18 Thread Roy Marples
solution is all that future proof :P -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Roy Marples
e baselayout as such because we rely on bash and they rely on busybox. But last time I checked it was still Gentoo. Or are you saying that SUSE is RedHat as they use RPM? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-19 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 18 May 2006 20:35, Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Thursday 18 May 2006 20:43, Roy Marples wrote: > > Yes, part of it. baselayout is another part - and yet it's possible to > > run Gentoo on other variants like initng, daemontools and no doubt > > others. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-19 Thread Roy Marples
ou that their goal is to replace baselayout in Gentoo. OMFG - lets rip initng from the tree as it's going to replace my lovely baselayout -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-19 Thread Roy Marples
scripts used by ifplugd and netplug with init-ng support in the tree right now. I guess that means that init-ng has some level of support right? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-19 Thread Roy Marples
as it isn't the Gentoo default. You heard it guys - rip the djb stuff out of portage until the devs write scripts for baselayout. They have scripts for daemontools, but apparently it's not the Gentoo default. Or should we make an exception like you did for embedded? -- Roy Marples <

Re: [gentoo-dev] last call for xml2 (#116346)

2006-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:03, Mike Frysinger wrote: > you guys have had plenty of time to do this ... so last call before i scrub > xml2 from use.desc and repoman starts complaining :P > -mike Stable samba-3.0.22 has both xml and xml2 still. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] last call for xml2 (#116346)

2006-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 08 June 2006 11:00, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 08 June 2006 02:58, Roy Marples wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 June 2006 12:03, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > you guys have had plenty of time to do this ... so last call before i > > > scrub xml2 from

[gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Roy Marples
ey samhain bacula boxbackup Interestingly, many packages have a server USE flag but not a client one - maybe make both a global USE flag? Good idea? Bad idea? Thoughts? Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 09 June 2006 14:10, Roy Marples wrote: > Some packages provide both a client and a server. As such, users usually > only want one or the other - and rarely both. > Thanks to wolf31o2 for pointing out that current policy dictates that we install both by default and the minimal

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 09 June 2006 20:04, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 17:43 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > On Friday 09 June 2006 14:10, Roy Marples wrote: > > > Some packages provide both a client and a server. As such, users > > > usually only want one or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] client/server policy for ebuilds

2006-06-09 Thread Roy Marples
# build server fi How does portage stop us from doing that now? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] client/server policy for ebuilds

2006-06-09 Thread Roy Marples
ither then db was used, otherwise the flagged db was used. Problems problems - soltutions that work with existing installs or do we just bite the bullet and do ! use client && ! use server && die "must select either client or server" Which kinda defeats the purpose of a clean install. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] client/server policy for ebuilds

2006-06-10 Thread Roy Marples
ime, existing package depedencies > can be reduced from dhcp to dhcp-client or dhcp-server as appropriate. I doubt any package will ever depend on a dhcp server as such so that helps the one ebuild argument. I think I'll keep it as it now is - minimal use flag stops server installat

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.15-r3 testing for stable

2006-06-18 Thread Roy Marples
their machine cannot boot > -mike Are you implying that there are bugs with baselayout-1.12.1 that stop the machine booting? If so, please give me some bug numbers to look at. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC & baselayout-2 meets Gentoo

2008-03-20 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 20 March 2008 06:59:24 Josh Saddler wrote: > I'll be working on the migration guide with Cardoe (and possibly Roy, if > we can tag-team him into submission). As much of a pain as migration > will be, we'll definitely need a howto. Fun, fun. I already provide documentation with commands

[gentoo-dev] Testing to see if services have crashed on hardened

2008-03-21 Thread Roy Marples
Hi List. I've just removed the code to check for euid when running services and instead relying on permissions of the service state dir and testing errno. This is a good thing, but it does have one side effect. OpenRC can track daemons by how they were started. So every time you run rc-status

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing to see if services have crashed on hardened

2008-03-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 21 March 2008 10:37:11 Fabian Groffen wrote: > Assuming you would use libkvm, on Darwin this means as unprivileged user > (not using suid) you can't see any processes at all. That's different from FreeBSD and NetBSD then. > > > This isn't really an easy answer, as we could have installe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing to see if services have crashed on hardened

2008-03-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 21 March 2008 10:44:12 Natanael Copa wrote: > err... run rc-status as root? > > I mean if you are not supposed to see if a process is running or not as > normal user, then hardned is doin it's job when does not allow rc-status > to show this info to the unprivileged user. > > if (!HARDENE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing to see if services have crashed on hardened

2008-03-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 21 March 2008 12:39:48 Natanael Copa wrote: > /* pid 1 is most likely owned by root */ > hardened = pid_is_running(1); > if (!hardened || (hardened && euid==0) { OK, we'll go with that for the time being. Thanks Roy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC & baselayout-2 meets Gentoo

2008-03-25 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 24 March 2008 22:03:48 Mike Frysinger wrote: > we're going to need to extend the syntax anyways to allow for > per-version-per-module arguments. unless openrc does that now ... Roy ? It now supports per module per kernel version arguments. Thanks Roy -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org ma

[gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

2008-04-23 Thread Roy Marples
OK, it seems that hard lines in multipart configs seem to be an issue, so I'm doing this now. For a summary of why we're using hard lines you can read this thread http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/45756/focus=45765 Basically, just using whitespace to seperate configs is nice and s

Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

2008-04-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 19:46:35 Joe Peterson wrote: > Roy Marples wrote: > > config_eth0="1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > 5.6.7.8 netmask 255.255.0.0" > > routes_eth0="1.2.4.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 1.2.3.6 > > 5.6.7.9 gw 5.6.7.10 > > defa

Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

2008-04-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 21:46:18 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:21:27PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > OK, it seems that hard lines in multipart configs seem to be an issue, so > > I'm doing this now. > > > > For a summary of why we'

Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

2008-04-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 24 April 2008 00:01:01 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The problem in this is that you cannot set the properties for each > address or route. Please don't take us back to the stoneage of writing > the advanced networking configuration manually. > > As an example of an ip address line with pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

2008-04-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 23:01:38 Graham Murray wrote: > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wednesday 23 April 2008 21:46:18 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> See my attached example from work, we use a lot of the various options > >> on stuff. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Roy Marples
On Saturday 31 May 2008 00:16:31 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Ok, then everything in the tree is covered and we can move to having > > --as-needed as default. > > Is the next version of everything in the tree covered? Have you made > sure that software isn't merely working by fluke? We interupt thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 09 June 2008 09:06:24 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > So how, specifically, is PMS "wrongly written", and why hasn't anyone > who thinks so bothered to provide details? Probably because you have such a long history of saying "it's broken" without providing any details. Even when asked you some

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-11 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 19:00:16 David Leverton wrote: > On Thursday 12 June 2008 02:46:03 Jim Ramsay wrote: > > David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Since at least one ebuild has already been modified specifically to > > > work around the bug, I'd say it's pretty real. > > > > For tho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-12 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 13 June 2008 02:13:19 David Leverton wrote: > The pkgcore was (or should have been) highly obvious to anyone who had > so much glanced at the offending code. Good behaviour Hey - I found this bug in your code. Here's a patch! Bad behaviour Hey guys - stop using Foo as it has a highly ob

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-19 Thread Roy Marples
On Thursday 19 June 2008 02:43:12 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Nope. What I see as a problem is that the primary author and current > de facto maintainer is so much of an asshole that he was forcibly > removed from the Gentoo project, which PMS is supposed to be written > for, and has ostracized (at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-23 Thread Roy Marples
Alin Năstac wrote: > Doug Goldstein wrote: >> The only reason why OpenRC has not come up for stabilization by it's >> maintainers is the fact that everytime there's a new version readied >> for release, on the horizon there's new incompatible changes being >> planned for the next version. The OpenR

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-23 Thread Roy Marples
Roy Marples wrote: > One side effect of this is that daemons such was wpa_supplicant and PPP > are now init scripts proper - this is good. The only downside is that > you lose the ability to control each interface via init.d. Instead I > propose you control this via ifconfig. Uh, s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-24 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Auty wrote: > Roy Marples wrote: >> Attached is the new conf.d/net sample. > > Sorry, I missed those. Did lists.g.o remove them, or were they not > attached? > >> As such, a side project I've started is a new ifconfig tool >> [1] to handle everything f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-24 Thread Roy Marples
# Assign static IP addresses and run custom scripts per interface. # Seperate commands with ; # Prefix with ! to run a shell script. # Use \$int to represent the interface #ifconfig_eth0="192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0" # You also have ifup_eth0 and ifdown_eth0 to run other commands when # et

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-25 Thread Roy Marples
Robert Buchholz wrote: > On Saturday 23 May 2009, Roy Marples wrote: >> Basically as Doug said, each OpenRC version comes with a few big >> chances. Well not massive as in "your box will break now", but just a >> different spin on how things should work. OpenRC-0.5 w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-07 Thread Roy Marples
Josh Saddler wrote: Also, if OpenRC/baselayout is dropping support for things like PPP or ADSL[1], and will not guarantee a "stable" configuration (i.e. as "final" as baselayout-1 has been, not needing constant user-side updates)[2] . . . then we need to find some other solution for our users.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-07 Thread Roy Marples
Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 12:02:44AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Robin H Johnson wrote: 2. Right now, every init.d script that needs to detection should revbump and change to the following: [[ -f /lib/librc.so -o -f /etc/init.d/sysfs -o -f /libex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 12:00:59AM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: Roy: [[ or [? Entirely depends on system. OpenRC uses /bin/sh to process the actual init script. We rely on /bin/sh claiming POSIX compat [1]. On Gentoo Linux systems, this is normally a link to bash, so you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 June 2009 15:59:50 Robin H. Johnson wrote: 1. OpenRC will provide /libexec/rc/version, a text file containing the version (possible including a git ID) of the release. that requires us to actually utilize /libexec/ which is not a Linux convention on any s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 June 2009 06:12:04 Roy Marples wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 June 2009 15:59:50 Robin H. Johnson wrote: 1. OpenRC will provide /libexec/rc/version, a text file containing the version (possible including a git ID) of the release. that requires

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Joe Peterson wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: maybe, but since we arent going to use /libexec/ at this time, that means /etc is the next best place How about /usr/share/openrc/version? The only dirs that are guaranteed to be available at boot are /dev /etc /lib /bin /sbin Plus these OS specifi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 June 2009 06:35:37 Roy Marples wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 June 2009 06:12:04 Roy Marples wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 June 2009 15:59:50 Robin H. Johnson wrote: 1. OpenRC will provide /libexec/rc/version, a text file containing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: the original discussion made it sound like /etc/openrc-version always existed independent of libexec That is incorrect. Thanks Roy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: i didnt see any real discussion of /sbin/functions.sh ... i dont recall there being a reason historically for not checking for this file to detect baselayout-1 vs openrc, and no one has complained about its usage in mdadm ... That works as a baselayout-1 vs openrc test. H

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: if openrc versions are causing a level of incompatibility, then it should itself be setting up an env var for init.d scripts to key off of rather than having to figure out what's going on via the filesystem. the point of this thread is to detect baselayout-1 vs openrc onl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-08 Thread Roy Marples
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 June 2009 09:09:43 Roy Marples wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: if openrc versions are causing a level of incompatibility, then it should itself be setting up an env var for init.d scripts to key off of rather than having to figure out what's going on vi

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Roy Marples
quot;/etc/init.d/foo status" we check to see if all the binaries are still running. If not then we do an "/etc/init.d/foo stop" behind the scenes. But some init scripts don't use start-stop-daemon, like sshd. These scripts will need to be re-working around start-stop-daemon.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hiatus

2006-07-19 Thread Roy Marples
red to is a PITA. Any other madwifi users want to step up and take these? I know there are a few of you ;) -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-19 Thread Roy Marples
u down when i get back from China :) I think I'll accept the nomination. Have a good time in China. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event

2006-07-25 Thread Roy Marples
- do you know if they have larger rooms? Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] RT2X00_DEVICE USE_EXPAND

2006-08-02 Thread Roy Marples
me effect. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RT2X00_DEVICE USE_EXPAND

2006-08-02 Thread Roy Marples
c drivers from the rt2x00 package (rt2400, rt2500pci+usb, rt61, rt73 + rfkill support). I very much doubt that anything outside of rt2x00 would ever use those flags. Other network drivers appear to have one tarball for each device, whereas rt2x00 is an all-in-one type approach. -- Roy M

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)

2006-08-02 Thread Roy Marples
because no-one wants to maintain > it. Sunrise could help here, by accepting properly written ebuilds that do > however not get maintenance. How does that help? User goes to bugzilla or User goes to sunrise User still has to go somewhere outside of the tree. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-08-08 Thread Roy Marples
vs 1 ebuild was a bad idea. Yes we would need 3 due to the way that the dhcp builds and installs. The minimal flag currently controls this anyway - you always get the client but the server is optional. And it's easier this way I think as it also mirrors upstream which is something we stri

Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Roy Marples
ftpd init scripts as they allow multiplexing, which I think is what you are after. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] java and start-stop-daemon [repost]

2006-08-22 Thread Roy Marples
for shell scripts that call daemons. See the courier-imap fiasco for details on this. For hints on what we do, checkout /lib/rcscripts/sh/rc-daemon.sh Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] I'm concerned about a bug (#121142, imagemagick)

2006-09-05 Thread Roy Marples
day and ask for feedback. Some of which are now over a year old without any feedback from the reporter. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Why you use Gentoo

2006-09-08 Thread Roy Marples
On Friday 08 September 2006 04:08, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 07 September 2006 20:31, Chris White wrote: > >> So, wondering why people use Gentoo. > > > > penis envy > > -mike > > So are we suppose to admire yours? He m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-09 Thread Roy Marples
ays. Unless anyone else steps up, I'll take it as I use Drupal for my home site. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-09 Thread Roy Marples
hemes for it suck. Just install the main drupal build and let users handle the rest until webapp-config allows installs in same dir for different ebuilds. Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-11 Thread Roy Marples
to take Drupal instead of me :) However, is there any reason that the main drupal ebuild cannot stay in portage? Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.12.5 sucks

2006-09-25 Thread Roy Marples
LUG/HOTPLUG on everything but net services - it's used for fine tuning if you like. This is also documented in /etc/conf.d/rc Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] How default route should be set by pppd

2006-09-30 Thread Roy Marples
ay of setting > the default route. > Any objections? If it's p.masked then none :) Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Roy Marples
people using VIA C3 class chips which are i586 in their home servers because they are cheap, but more importantly very quiet as they don't require CPU fans. -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.18 going stable in 1 week

2006-10-20 Thread Roy Marples
erlands now in the shape of Gentoo/FreeBSD on x86 and sparc64. So should "vanilla-sources" be renamed to "linux-sources" so it's more accurate? FWIW, baselayout 1.13 can use either GNU or BSD userland - hopefully one day portage (or package manager of choice) can

[gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-21 Thread Roy Marples
anyone think of any reasons why I cannot punt it? Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
On Sunday 22 October 2006 03:08, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:05, Roy Marples wrote: > > baselayout-1.13 now handles multiple provides. That means that you have > > can 3 or more services that provide "logger" and baselayout will pick the >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
de mysql. > Is there an environment variable usable in depend() that tell if this > functionality is present? Nope. Why would you need to know this? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
ight? Bingo. Although it would be better to work the other way - mysqld provides mysql. Just my 2c though :) -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux/FreeBSD Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
On Sunday 22 October 2006 19:38, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Roy Marples ha scritto: > > On Sunday 22 October 2006 13:01, Francesco Riosa wrote: > >> This is a nice thing for mysql since it can use two init scripts "mysql" > >> and "mysqlmanager". B

Re: [gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
I hate replying to myself as it's the first sign of madness, but ... On Sunday 22 October 2006 12:52, Roy Marples wrote: > no - net is up if any interface except for lo is up > This is the tricky one as we have effectively lost it Not exactly true. If we stop net.lo from providing

Re: [gentoo-dev] RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING or the net dependency

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
rvices to fail because net.eth[01] failed to start at boot > > thus RC_STRICT_NET_CHECKING=lo gave me the perfect behavior And by default you'll get that behaviour. Infact we support none, lo and yes options without you having to set anything as that's all default :) -- Ro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: why is net.eth0 started, even though it's not in any runlevel?

2006-10-22 Thread Roy Marples
u think that you cannot achieve that with these variables from conf.d/rc RC_COLDPLUG RC_HOTPLUG RC_PLUG_SERVICES ? -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux/FreeBSD Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

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