Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 21-07-2013 a las 13:57 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: [...] > 5. I have doubts about 'emerge -1vDtu @world' speed. It is very > subjective feeling but I feel like reiserfs was actually faster in this > regard. However, space savings would surely benefit our users. > I also feel it faster (

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2013-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 21-07-2013 a las 16:46 +0200, justin escribió: > On 7/21/13 4:26 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > > On 07/21/2013 01:42 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> Would be possible to generate and provide squashed files at the > >> same time tarballs with portage tree snapshots are

Re: [gentoo-dev] vserver herd is empty

2013-07-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 24-07-2013 a las 12:44 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: > В Вс, 21/07/2013 в 10:23 +0200, Pacho Ramos пишет: > > Will remove the herd if nobody joins in a week. > > I talked to hollow and we think it's worth to remove this herd. > > Actually only openvz and vserver

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH systemd.eclass] Introduce systemd_is_booted().

2013-07-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 24-07-2013 a las 11:34 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > On 24/07/13 10:33 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > > > Runtime warnings would require non-trivial patching of the > > packages in question, so it's not a realistic alternative. > > > > It should be done anyways, though, unless

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: toolchain-r1.eclass

2013-07-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 25-07-2013 a las 22:30 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:26:48 -0700 > ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > > > About one month ago I've filed > > about modernizing > > toolchain.eclass by creating new toolchain-r1.eclass and mi

[gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello As discussed at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-apps/udev is currently reverting that commit downstream (even if upstream says some problems could appear in the future as nobody is taking care of static stuff there).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 29-07-2013 a las 17:13 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Grepping in the tree, looks like only some old genkernel versions are > > depending on it. Apart of that, what is requiring static libs in > > cryptsetu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 29-07-2013 a las 21:07 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Dustin C. Hatch > wrote: > > I think the point is that users may have an initramfs (that they built > > manually or using some tool besides dracut or genkernel) that makes use of > > cryptsetup/lvm2 bu

[gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 29/07/13 23:57, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > As discussed at: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 > > > > Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-ap

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages > > providing files under a directory. Does any exist? > > portageq owners / /path/to/directory

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 15:19 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > >> On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> > I would like to know if there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
entoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478110#c33 Looks like the static stuff isn't needed (that would allow us to not need to keep static stuff in sys-apps/udev) > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:07:39PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 22:32 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: > On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify > > features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. > > > > If Robin wants to support USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 01-08-2013 a las 18:11 +0200, Luca Barbato escribió: > On 01/08/13 17:36, Michał Górny wrote: > > So esystemd and ekmod now? > > You know my stance on systemd, for me it is a jumble of bad and > interesting ideas not so soundly implemented, I do not have much time or > will to play with th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 01-08-2013 a las 14:05 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió: [...] > Some cluster things in lvm does not work in mine setup with shared > builds. Only USE="static static-libs" is only working combination. > Something related with cluster file locking library - it does not load > if it is build shar

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 21:34 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 15:19 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > > >> On 07/31/20

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 07-08-2013 a las 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber escribió: > Greetings, > > Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires > systemd. > > What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this > restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 11:40 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: [...] > That makes a lot of sense, and on that basis keeping gnome-3.8+ in > ~arch is probably not warranted. HOWEVER, part of keeping things > stable is also a stable upgrade path, and -at least at this point- it > is -not- trivial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 12:02 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > It may be pertinent for this reason (a "smoother" upgrade path) and > > this reason alone, to stabilize gnome-3.6 first -- just to get into > > gnome3 (and get gnome-2 remove

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 12:20 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: [...] > Somewhat related question -- a new(?) profile was mentioned as being > required for gnome-3 ; if this is definitely happening, would it be a > good idea to mask gnome in the other profiles? Would that help with > the migratio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 18:36 +0200, hasufell escribió: [...] > I am only talking about stabilization here, maybe that wasn't clear enough? > > The virtual is in @system and the default pre-installed implementation > is INCOMPATIBLE with gnome-3.8. Until that is solved (in what way I > don't care

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 18:52 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 08/08/2013 06:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 18:36 +0200, hasufell escribió: > > [...] > >> I am only talking about stabilization here, maybe that wasn't clear enough? > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 08-08-2013 a las 21:40 +0100, Mike Auty escribió: [...] > Ok, > > So there's lots of people that don't want systemd. Can't we group > together and have some kind of an affect on upstream? Upstream > appears to be suffering the same split we found with portage, in that > the specification

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 02:26 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > - openBSD is simply supplying the "semibroken" Gnome stuff running with > > their setup (without multiseat working, neither power management, gdm > > service ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 02:25 +0200, Michael Weber escribió: > Citing from Pachos blog, > > "[...] we are now forcing people to *run* systemd to be able to properly > run Gnome 3.8, otherwise power management and multiseat support are > lost, [...]" [1]. > Pacho, would you accept patches and USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
a.com/pacho/blog/2013/07/24/gnome-3-8-requiring-systemd-on-gentoo > > > > > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242750 > > Quoting: > > "Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2008-10-19 15:13:07 EEST > > Currently, I am mainly (there are other apps that I prefer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 11:26 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > >> If OpenBSD can do it, then Gentoo can do it, too. So would you accept > >> ebuild > >> patches that make it possible to install Gnome 3.8 without systemd again? &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 12:22 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn escribió: [...] > Ok so we have these options: > > 1. keep systemd as hard dependency (current) > 2. IUSE="+systemd" or "openrc-force" with ewarn when set to unsupported state > 3. #2 + systemd in package.use.force, can be unforced

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 19:39 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: > On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > > >> You just removed the upgrade path for users. > > > > The upgrade path is to install systemd or to implement openrc s

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Upgraded" Developer Joachim Bartosik (jbartosik)

2013-08-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 15:47 +0200, Justin escribió: > Hi, > > I would like to announce that Joachim Bartosik (jbartosik) just joined > the team as a "full" dev. > > He contributed as a staffer before and would like to help now various > areas, among others in the gnome project. > > Please giv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 11-08-2013 a las 08:41 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 09/08/13 12:51, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El vie, 09-08-2013 a las 11:26 +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > > escribió: > >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: > >>>> If OpenBSD can do it, then Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 15-08-2013 a las 07:42 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: > On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: > >> > >>> And their lack of time (to be polite) should not block general > >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 14-08-2013 a las 23:53 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: [...] > Well, it should reflect reality. > > PMS is still broken as much as it does not reflect the state of portage > before PMS was written, and we've had to patch it up a few times to make > it coherent, plus it is still lacking half

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 14-08-2013 a las 15:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:32 +0400 > Sergey Popov wrote: > > I am all for the standarts, but as we did not brought sets to PMS > > yet(when we updated it for EAPI changes), my question is: 'why?'. It > > is one of the long-standing

[gentoo-dev] Regarding "consolekit" meaning in some ebuilds

2013-08-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
I have seen some ebuilds (just seen bluez one) that are using "consolekit" USE flag to not force plugdev group usage (as it's not used on consolekit/logind setups). The problem is that this is common with systemd/logind then, people merging bluez, will want this "consolekit" USE flag enabled. Shou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding "consolekit" meaning in some ebuilds

2013-08-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 19-08-2013 a las 10:30 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > On 19/08/13 08:49 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I have seen some ebuilds (just seen bluez one) that are using > > "consolekit" USE flag to not force plugdev group usage (as it's not > > used on co

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 20-08-2013 a las 12:26 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > Hello, fellow developers. > > I've added a few new fancy features for Gentoo developers to portage > git. Sadly, since Zac isn't planning another release until 2.2.0 goes > stable, you need to switch to - to use them. But I say to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 20-08-2013 a las 14:58 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > Dnia 2013-08-20, o godz. 13:42:38 > Pacho Ramos napisał(a): > > > El mar, 20-08-2013 a las 12:26 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > [...] > > > 2. FEATURES=network-sandbox > > [...] > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 18:08 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: > On 21/08/2013 17:54, Sergey Popov wrote: > > Why we should bring new half-stable, half-testing keyword for this? I > > think that this is no way to go. We should improve current situation > > with arches by some other ways(e.g., rec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 11:52 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > Dnia 2013-08-20, o godz. 13:01:34 > Michał Górny napisał(a): > > > Hello, > > > > Due to the widespread breakage in the tree noted in bug #480892 [1], > > and mis-design of multilib-minimal.eclass, we'd like to put some more > > work

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 11:16 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: [...] > That's not what I am suggesting. > > It is not about bringing in new versions, but about getting rid of > OLD versions which LIKELY contain MORE security problems than you > imagine. Keeping them around for too long time isn't rea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 10:57 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:22:39 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Regarding the kernel... well, I don't think having a 3.8.x kernel as > > stable one is so old, what are current kernel versions in stable &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 12:04 +0100, Markos Chandras escribió: [...] > If I get enough positive feedback on this, I will propose this in the > next Council's agenda. > + :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 13:45 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 08/20/2013 01:01 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Due to the widespread breakage in the tree noted in bug #480892 > > [1], and mis-design of multilib-minimal.eclass, we'd like to put > > some more work into getting einstalldoc

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 14:25 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: [...] > > 2) recruit more arch testers/arch team members; > > Same point as before, let's see if that will be enough. > Well, ago has being doing a great work getting more Arch Testers (at least for amd64), maybe some of them could give

Re: [gentoo-dev] Staging 'einstalldocs' for EAPI 6

2013-08-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-08-2013 a las 14:35 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: > >>>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Could appending to DOCS be allowed? I have seen a lot of time of me > > needing to install all docs "manually" only to add a doc file ove

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with people who use internal eclass functions?

2013-08-26 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 26-08-2013 a las 09:38 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > Hello, all. > > I've noticed that some people are using internal eclass functions > in their ebuilds. I mean, functions that are explicitly marked > @INTERNAL and that start with an underscore. What should I do to them? > > I would ex

[gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello I would like to let you know dotnet team is needed of help. I am taking care of some of its packages but mostly banshee and whatever it requires. I don't have much time to invest on their packages and, then, there are some pending bumps, some of them needing some work (like gtk-sharp, gnome-

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 08:10 +0400, Heather escribió: [...] > > Hello. > > > I used to mail you two times about it... > I have no developer status but I need to know if you mind to take me > on the board. > > My recruitment bug is #461458. > Maybe I missed them for some reason :O, let me ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 16:13 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:34:00 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Hello > > > > I would like to let you know dotnet team is needed of help. I am > > taking care of some of its packages but mostly banshe

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 16:46 +0200, hasufell escribió: > On 08/27/2013 02:34 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > I would like to let you know dotnet team is needed of help. I am > > taking care of some of its packages but mostly banshee and whatever > > it

Re: [gentoo-dev] dotnet team needs your help

2013-08-29 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 28-08-2013 a las 21:14 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: > On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:14:35 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > If you are talking about Heather, looks like for some reason I was > > missing some of his mails (I was losing them), I am reviewing that > > p

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-08-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 31-08-2013 a las 12:37 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina escribió: [...] > I know we are a little OT here but the fifth type of recruit is someone > who is very excited, very dedicated, and completely unable to find a > mentor. That is where I was for a long time, no one seemed to have the >

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-irc/ezbounce, app-misc/gpsdrive, sys-fs/cdfs, =dev-cpp/libxmlpp-1.0*, app-arch/xarchiver

2013-09-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos (07 Sep 2013) # Fails to build with gcc-4.7, no release since 2009, # nothing in the tree needs it. Removal in a month. net-irc/ezbounce # Pacho Ramos (07 Sep 2013) # Upstream looks dead, lots of unattended bugs needing # patches (#369007, #444135, #446424, #458856). # Removal in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improve the security of the default profile

2013-09-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 07-09-2013 a las 14:37 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Martin Vaeth > wrote: > > Ryan Hill wrote: > >> > >> * -fstack-protector{-all} > >> No thank you. -fstack-protector has very limited coverage > > > > I'd say it covers most cases where bugs can be made

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH systemd.eclass] Introduce systemd_install_serviced().

2013-09-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-09-2013 a las 17:14 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue escribió: > Le dimanche 08 septembre 2013 à 13:12 +0200, Michał Górny a écrit : > > This function can be used to install service configuration templates. > > Usage: > > > > systemd_install_serviced "${FILESDIR}"/foo.service.conf > > >

[gentoo-dev] gnome2-utils.eclass: Add support new gtk-query-immodules handling introduced in gtk+-2.24.20

2013-09-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
We need to handle this in a different way for gtk+-2.24.20 and newer as explained at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476100 The patch is here: https://476100.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=358136 If you have any problems with it, please tell me so. Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-09-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 11-09-2013 a las 11:41 +0200, Olav Vitters escribió: [...] > > * We maintain networkmanager and bluetooth support optional, and this > > has been the case since 3.2 iirc even though upstream flat out refuses > > to merge our perfectly fine patches > > Feel free to cc release-t...@gnome.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 14-09-2013 a las 11:35 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:47:04AM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 22:48 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 09:04:06PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > > > app-admin/openrc-sett

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 14-09-2013 a las 18:07 -0500, William Hubbs escribió: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:59:57PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > openrc-settings will need to be kept if we ever want to implement: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480336 > > There may be other re

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: m68k, s390, and sh are dropping stable keywords

2013-09-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
What should we do with pending stabilization bugs having this arches CCed? unCC them?

[gentoo-dev] sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources up for grabs

2013-09-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
I don't have time for it for a long time (since I switched to official suspend time ago and moved back to gentoo-sources then), updated patches are periodically generated and put at: http://tuxonice.nigelcunningham.com.au/downloads/all/?C=M&O=D Feel free to get it if you want

[gentoo-dev] Re: sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources up for grabs

2013-09-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 21-09-2013 a las 14:42 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > I don't have time for it for a long time (since I switched to official > suspend time ago and moved back to gentoo-sources then), updated patches > are periodically generated and put at: > http://tuxonice.nigel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 24-09-2013 a las 22:38 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > Am Dienstag, 24. September 2013, 21:07:26 schrieb Markos Chandras: > > On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > > On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: > > >> (unless of course you want to increase your number of

[gentoo-dev] Addition of systemd subprofiles

2013-10-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello This comes from: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481920 as we would like to set some saner (for systemd usage) defaults in a subprofile, that way people could switch to it to inherit the changes more easily). For now, it masks consolekit USE flag, enables "systemd" one and masks sta

[gentoo-dev] Re: Addition of systemd subprofiles

2013-10-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 01-10-2013 a las 21:10 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > Hello > > This comes from: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481920 > > as we would like to set some saner (for systemd usage) defaults in a > subprofile, that way people could switch to it to inherit the

Re: [gentoo-dev] afterstep herd is empty

2013-10-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 04-10-2013 a las 10:23 +0200, Bernard Cafarelli escribió: > I just removed myself from this herd (not enough time and I have not > used Afterstep for a long long time), feel free to join if you are an > Afterstep user! > > Open bugs currently include fixing some ignored LDFLAGS, a compil

Re: [gentoo-dev] afterstep herd is empty

2013-10-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-10-2013 a las 20:34 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: [...] > > Will proceed to move its packages to maintainer-needed in a week if it > > keeps being empty then > > Move the x11-wm/afterstep package to desktop-wm@ and x11-plugins/ ones > to desktop-dock@ > Ditto for net-mail/asmail whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] afterstep herd is empty

2013-10-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 09-10-2013 a las 20:54 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: [...] > I meant that for long as desktop-wm@ herd is there, it should be used > > But you have a very good point, the desktop-wm@ herd has been quiet for > years and it's one of those herds that doesn't make sense because no > maint

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due pebenito retirement: dev-libs/ustr

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due rajiv retirement: net-dns/dnstop net-misc/ser2net

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: =dev-cpp/libgdamm-4.1.3, >=gnome-extra/gnome-utils-3.4

2013-10-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos (12 Oct 2013) # No package is needing it but it still needs obsolete # and unmaintained libda:4 slot (#482910). Removal in a month. =dev-cpp/libgdamm-4.1.3 # Pacho Ramos (12 Oct 2013) # This meta is no longer needed, bug #480612 # Removal in a month. >=gnome-extra/gnome-ut

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: converting /etc/mtab to a symlink

2013-10-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 14-10-2013 a las 09:58 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió: > В Вс, 13/10/2013 в 14:13 -0700, Matt Turner пишет: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > from what I'm seeing, we should look into converting /etc/mtab to a > > > symlink to /proc/self/mounts [1]. > > > Is t

Re: [gentoo-dev] about inactive project members/leaders

2013-10-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 15-10-2013 a las 22:53 +0200, hasufell escribió: [...] > I have read that and that is why I propose that undertakers do also > check projects for their internal activity patterns. > > I don't really think that is a job for the council. I think it's a job for the other project members, the

[gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
tem. I attach one based in latest one from the times of 2.32 :D It only points to Gnome 3.8 upgrade guide as that guide is already pointing to Systemd guide for migrating (and explaining the Systemd need) Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8 Author: Pacho Ramos Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-10-19 Re

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due afterstep and desktop-wm herds removal: net-mail/asmail x11-plugins/asapm x11-plugins/asclock x11-plugins/ascpu x11-plugins/asmem x11-plugins/asmon x11-plugins/astime x11-wm/afterstep -> looks that was proxy-maintained sys-libs/libixp x11-misc/bbappconf x11-misc/bbcd x11-misc/bbdate x11-misc/bb

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due vserver herd removal: sys-cluster/util-vserver sys-fs/vzquota sys-kernel/vserver-sources

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 19-10-2013 a las 10:32 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > Well, even if the stabilization is still waiting for two blocking bugs: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474128 -> for Orca 3.8 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486278 -> for getting a lvm2 > versi

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 22-10-2013 a las 08:34 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: > >>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > We are pleased to announce the stabilization of GNOME-3.8. Users are > > strongly encouraged to read the GNOME 3.8 Upgrade Guide to avoid any &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-10-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 22-10-2013 a las 08:02 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > >> Lets compare it with the 2.32 one that looks to were valid in the > >>

[gentoo-dev] app-dicts herd is empty

2013-10-22 Thread Pacho Ramos
Looks like it's empty for some time. If nobody joins to it, I will proceed with dissolving the herd in a week or so Thanks

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due voip herd removal: dev-libs/jrtplib dev-libs/pwlib media-plugins/mediastreamer-amr media-plugins/mediastreamer-bcg729 media-plugins/mediastreamer-ilbc media-plugins/mediastreamer-silk media-plugins/mediastreamer-x264 net-libs/ccrtp net-libs/h323plus net-libs/libeXosip net-libs/libosip net-libs/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [IDEA] Enumerate solutions for blockers, to avoid tedious manual work.

2013-11-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 04-11-2013 a las 10:01 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon > > wrote: > > > >> On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat > >> common for (newish) users to not know what to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for review: python-exec package move

2013-11-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-11-2013 a las 18:20 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: > Dnia 2013-11-06, o godz. 18:14:57 > Dirkjan Ochtman napisał(a): > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Please review the following news item. I would prefer committing it > > > as soon as I get an ACK from al

[gentoo-dev] About preferred ntp provider

2013-11-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
Reading: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489044 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489040 I don't know what should be preferred, personally I use net-misc/ntp simply because I have always being using it, also looks like we don't have any virtual that could point me about the "preferre

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-11-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
New try: Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8 Author: Pacho Ramos Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-11-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/3.8-upgrade-guide

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item about Gnome 3.8

2013-11-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 14-11-2013 a las 22:22 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: > New try: > > Title: Upgrade to GNOME 3.8 > Author: Pacho Ramos > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2013-11-14 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Installed: Display-If-Installed: Displ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 15-11-2013 a las 23:39 +0100, Michał Górny escribió: > Dnia 2013-11-15, o godz. 14:53:00 > Ben de Groot napisał(a): > > > As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing > > solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a > > distro: > > > > 1: emul-*

Re: [gentoo-dev] About preferred ntp provider

2013-11-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 11-11-2013 a las 22:13 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: > Reading: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489044 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489040 > > I don't know what should be preferred, personally I use net-misc/ntp > simply because I have alwa

[gentoo-dev] Help needed on maintaining media-gfx/k3d

2013-11-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
media-gfx/k3d is not buildable for a long time in the tree due boost update (also in stable), it also has some important pending bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=k3d&list_id=2093406 Is anyone interested on it to try to solve some of the most important bugs? Thanks a lot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-12-2013 a las 18:19 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > Am Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2013, 17:56:12 schrieb Tom Wijsman: > > > > When our defaults force us down such path, that can't be good and it > > affects the quality of our Portage tree; so, this makes me wonder, can > > we change the

[gentoo-dev] About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase and pam_ssh Thanks for the info :)

[gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie forked it fixing some bugs :/ What do you think?

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-12-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due tove lack of time: dev-vcs/mr dev-vcs/vcsh www-apps/ikiwiki

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-12-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due ramereth lack of time: app-admin/cronolog app-admin/drush app-emulation/ganeti-instance-debian-etch app-emulation/ganeti-instance-image sys-process/cronutils www-apache/mod_fcgid

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-12-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due ford_prefect retirement: app-misc/flyte-download-manager media-libs/webrtc-audio-processing media-sound/dbmeasure sys-auth/rtkit (pulseaudio is now in "sound" herd domain, if someone is interested on it...)

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-dicts herd is empty

2014-01-05 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 22-10-2013 a las 21:38 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > Looks like it's empty for some time. If nobody joins to it, I will > proceed with dissolving the herd in a week or so > > Thanks > The following are now orphan: app-dicts/aspell-af app-dicts/aspell-be app-dicts

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] To enable ssp default in Gcc the toolchain.eclass need some changes.

2014-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 09-01-2014 a las 21:58 +0100, Magnus Granberg escribió: > Hi > > Some time ago we discussed that we should enable stack smashing > (-fstack-protector) by default. So we opened a bug to track this [1]. > The affected Gcc version will be 4.8.2 and newer. Only amd64, x86, mips, ppc, > pp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] To enable ssp default in Gcc the toolchain.eclass need some changes.

2014-01-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 09-01-2014 a las 17:06 -0500, Anthony G. Basile escribió: > On 01/09/2014 04:57 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 09-01-2014 a las 21:58 +0100, Magnus Granberg escribió: > >> Hi > >> > >> Some time ago we discussed that we should enable stack smashing

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