I filed bug 425330. Nothing special, I'm just a heavy user and
advocate of IPv6, and I figured I ought to file the bug locally so
that the Gentoo dev associated with it can run it up the flagpole to
upstream.
I just saw that it's now CC'd to "maintainer-needed". I don't like it
when packages I use
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, David Abbott wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> I filed bug 425330. Nothing special, I'm just a heavy user and
>> advocate of IPv6, and I figured I ought to file the bug locally so
>> that the Gentoo dev ass
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> It also seems like the current portage output is giving the user some
>>> contradictory and counterproductive advice. It seems like there are
>>> really only two
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> On 10 July 2012 11:03, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> You keep saying that, but do you have any actual data to back up
>> that claim? There is no doubt that Chromium is a mainstream and
>> p
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 11/07/12 06:40 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's no
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of work
>> into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for udev. There's
>> been a good de
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
>> > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface.
>>
>> I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a da
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote
>
>> I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon
>> which turns around and launches udev.
>
> A quicker-and-dirtier solution wou
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded
>> > device area? Udev, even without the systemd code,
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:48:55 -0400 as excerpted:
>
>> Giving it a little thought, the simplest tmpfs-based root would be one
>> that defines a tarball as a the root. The system would create a tmpfs,
>> extr
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> I don't mind the merge of /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin;
> moreover, I want an even more radical change:
>
> /usr -> /System
> /home -> /Users
> /etc -> /Config
This would be a terrible idea, IMO. If you can rationalize this, wh
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:40:12 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:35:58 -0500
>> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > All the arguments for keeping /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, and /usr/sbin
>> > separated are really instances of
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
[snip]
>> To me, it looks a lot like what once was / is now expected to be an
>> initramfs, which I find extraordinarily problematic, for the following
>> reasons:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> [snip]
>>> Debian uses initramfs-tools...
>>
>> AFAIK, neither genkernel nor dracut
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> AFAIK, neither genkernel nor dracut were expected to get tied to the
>> Gentoo update process. Has that changed?
>
> We don't even update kernels as part of
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 18,
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> AFAIK, neither genkernel nor dr
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 18/07/12 03:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Mi
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> William Hubbs wrote:
>> /etc/init.d/foo stop start
>>
>> would no longer work the way you might expect because there would be no
>> way to tell whether start is a command or an argument to stop.
>>
>> What are your thoughts about this change?
>
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> So your initramfs doesn't include network tools such as ping,
>> traceroute or wget. Fine. Fundamentally speaking, why shouldn't
>> someone else's?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 24-07-2012 07:20:31 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>> > I don't know about general consensus. In my opinion, it's plain spam to
>> > existing users. (And that would IMO be the xth n
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>> On 24-07-2012 08:01:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> 3) That news item about udev-181 and a unified /usr is still greeting
>>> new users...and it's sti
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>>> On 24-07-2012 14:52:43 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
This is a change that will break all new installs and expecting
experienced gentoo users to read
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 24/07/12 02:52 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>> On 07/24/2012 09:33 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>>> On 24-07-2012 09:24:03 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
I guess this is a matte
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
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> On 07/24/2012 04:19 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> Another user opinion...it would be a significant improvement to
>> the stage images and live discs to includ
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
wrote:
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> On 25-07-2012 13:29, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Aaron W. Swenson
>> wrote:
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> I've been messing around with namespaces and some of what systemd has
> been doing with them, and I have an idea for a portage feature.
>
> But before doing a brain dump of ideas, how useful would it be to have
> a FEATURE for portage to do a
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
>>
>> No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default.
>
> The defaults should be what's best for the most people, with a bias
> towards safety. Why don't we just take a survey
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400
> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
>> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
>> >
>> > No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default.
>>
>> The defaults should be what's best for the most p
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:50:29 -0400
> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
>> On 07/30/12 10:41, Michał Górny wrote:
>> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400
>> > Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
wrote:
> On 7/26/12 8:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> I've been messing around with namespaces and some of what systemd has
>> been doing with them, and I have an idea for a portage feature.
>>
>> But before doing a brain dump of ideas, how usefu
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 31/07/12 10:55 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
>> wrote:
>>> On 7/26/12 8:26 PM, Rich F
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:33:59 -0400
> Sylvain Alain wrote:
>
>> The KDE team seems to work on that too :
>> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=134052539215508&w=2
>
> it's actually worth it.
> more user-spread FUD or however you like to c
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 16:48:20 +0200
> "Jason A. Donenfeld" wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Michał Górny
>> wrote:
>> > Not everyone uses bash. Not everyone cares at all about
>> > bash-completion. What is your point?
>>
>> I'm not
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:27:37 +0200
> Peter Stuge wrote:
>
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
[snip]
>> > Systemd isn't a like-for-like replacement for traditional inits.
>> > It aims to be much more, so this is a bit of an apples-to-oranges
>> > comparis
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:27:41 -0400 as excerpted:
>
> > Right now having decent KDE and Gnome support with all the bells and
> > whistles[...] isn't that hard, [It] will likely get harder, which means
> > i
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:18:24 -0400
> Michael Mol wrote:
>> I've occasionally noticed portage tell me about circular dependencies,
>> where the most straight forward resolution is to emerge some package
>> in t
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Gregory M. Turner wrote:
> On 8/16/2012 4:59 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
[snip]
>
>
> tldr: I like, approve and otherwise +1 the idea of somehow paring down or
> eliminating @system but I think it's going to be fairly challenging, so more
> discussion on this topic
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> The limited-visibility build feature discussed a week or so ago would
>> go a long way in detecting unexpressed build dependencies.
>
> I can't say that is a
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
[snip]
>>
>> It is only useful for situations where people want to do something
>> unusual. Some would argue that this is the only situation where
>> Gentoo is useful. If I wanted a
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> Bootstrapping is an inherently curious problem. Most systems are built
>> upon the systems they themselves build, but getting to that
>> self-hosting state always
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Johannes Huber wrote:
[snip]
>> Developers have only a limited amount of time, and this will eat into
>> it. The result is likely to not be new shiny ebuilds that use the new
>> EAPIs, but rather old rusty ones that still use the old EAPI but also
>> which conta
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>
>> The primary benefit to the policy that dev's should bump EAPI when
>> bumping ebuilds is so that older inferior EAPIs can be deprecated and
>> eventually removed from the tree.
>
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Michael Mol schrieb:
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The primary benefit to the policy that dev'
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:12:44AM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:45:21 +0100
>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:15 +0200
>> > Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> > > Coming back to this old topic [1]. I
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As Sid Hayn raised today on #gentoo-portage, it would be useful to
> finally have portage able to fetch updates from VCS-es independently
> of src_unpack(). This could be used, for example, on machines
> temporarily connected to the
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 07/09/12 12:03 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:46:41 -0300 Alexis Ballier
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I actually do like the concept but I'm not sure we can reach
>>> consensu
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Hans de Graaff wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 08:58 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>
> > So essentially what you're saying here is that it might be worthwhile
> > to look into parallelism as a whole and possibly come up with a
> > solution that combines 'emerge -
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 17 September 2012 20:41, Ciaran McCreesh
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:49:12 +0800
>> Ben de Groot wrote:
>>> Or, even easier and more straightforward: just keep using *DEPEND. The
>>> case hasn't been made yet why we need to change
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Use bugzilla's search for 'mediatomb' and you will find multiple counts of
> build failures the media-video@ herd is simply not capable of handling due
> to lack of resources (manpower)
>
> So if nobody steps up, I've CCd treecleaners at bu
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Hans de Graaff wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 11:47 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>
>> Yes, and sometimes we're doing 'use test'. I simply don't see how
>> adding a separate group of dependencies just for 'test' phase is going
>> to help us. They fit just fine into bu
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 10:14 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió:
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>> On 20/09/12 09:52 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:13:40 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
>> > wrote:
>> >
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 18:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:54:43 +0200
>> Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> > That isn't necessary what could occur if the behavior changes
>> > unexpectedly: as current behavior is already be
A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install
media be replaced with
pbzip2. It was closed a short while later, telling me that it'd
involve changing what's kept in @system, and that had to be discussed
here, rather than in a bug report.
Here's a detailed description of ho
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 26.09.2012 22:43, schrieb Matt Turner:
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install
>>> media be replaced with
>>>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
wrote:
> Michael Mol schrieb:
>> A few months ago, I filed bug 423651 to ask that bzip2 on the install
>> media be replaced with
>> pbzip2.
>
> If I understand correctly, pbzip2 depends on bzip2. So wh
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Christoph Junghans wrote:
> 2012/9/26 Mike Gilbert :
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
>>> wrote:
>>>> Michael Mol schrieb:
>>&g
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:23 AM, wbrana wrote:
> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations
> "Donate to support our development efforts."
> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain advertisements.
I run a technical website with around 6k visits per day, and my
experience is that
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote:
>> wbrana wrote:
>>> Page www.gentoo.org asks for donations
>>> "Donate to support our development efforts."
>>> Gentoo could get more money if all *.gentoo.org would contain
>>> advertisements.
>
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>> wbrana wrote:
>>>>> Page www.g
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Rafael Goncalves Martins
> wrote:
>> Maybe someone with good cvs knowledge can contribute a hook for irker
>> [1], so we can have #gentoo-commits flooding our irc clients again! :)
>
> Why exactly are we still
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> I don't know to what depth this has been discussed in the past, but if
>> you use git, you also get an HTTP transport, which has a useful
>> feature: You could
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
> On 01/10/2012 17:51, Gregory M. Turner wrote:
>>
>> Anyhow, I get it: administering the vcs for a huge project such as
>> Gentoo is very hard work. If I somehow gave some other impression, I'm
>> sorry. Perhaps Rich and I insensitively
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> Responding to no one in particular, but to the sub-thread about IRC
> bots:
>
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:32:26 +0200
> Fabian Groffen wrote:
>
>> On 02-10-2012 12:40:20 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> > The irker proxy was mentioned in this threa
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Michał Górny posted on Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:45:01 +0100 as excerpted:
>
> > Title: PYTHON_TARGETS deployment
>
> [snip]
>
> > Lately, a new Python eclasses were deployed and the way of supporting
> > multiple Python implementat
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:30:16 -0700
> Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>
> > Given the amount of headaches that Boost seems to give us all, now
> > thanks to the recent changes even more because Gentoo's boost is
> > different from all others and no
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
> On 30/10/2012 12:31, Michael Mol wrote:
> >
> > I've never understood why Gentoo uses a separate ebuild for it. I mean,
> > I can understand some efficiency gains from having a single compiled
> > copy, b
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
> On 30/10/2012 13:39, Michael Mol wrote:
> > In general, I agree...but Boost wasn't intended to be a shared library,
> > so there shouldn't be a conflict there.
>
> But there are shared libraries, and the
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
>
> On 30/10/12 22:49, Michael Mol wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
>> mailto:flamee...@flameeyes.eu>> wrote:
>>
>> On 30/10/2012 13:39, Michael Mol wrote:
>&g
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100
> Theo Chatzimichos wrote:
> > +1 and btw move the devmanual in the wiki :D
>
> That would rather go against the original idea behind the devmanual,
> which was that it was supposed to be high quality a
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100
> Theo Chatzimichos wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into
>> > the devmanua
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Thomas Sachau posted on Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:45:16 +0100 as excerpted:
>
>> Ben de Groot schrieb:
>>> On 14 November 2012 05:13, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>>>
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
> - considering gentoo generally uses e-
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:08:38PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:08:52AM -0800, Greg KH wrote
>>
>> > Again, any specific pointer to a commit in the tree that caused this?
>>
>> See http://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?titl
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 11/28/2012 11:08 AM, Matthew Thode wrote:
>> On 11/28/2012 09:05 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
>>> On 11/28/2012 09:17 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> We could slightly simplify the handboo
On Friday, September 16, 2016 09:54:42 PM Duncan wrote:
> Kristian Fiskerstrand posted on Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:58:22 +0200 as
>
> excerpted:
> > On 09/16/2016 02:31 PM, Hanno Böck wrote:
> >> media-gfx/skencil is a python-written vector graphics tool. It was once
> >> popular before inkscape became
On Monday, October 17, 2016 03:52:52 PM Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 10/17/2016 03:47 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> > On 17/10/16 14:44, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> >>> If a binary package is provided in addition to its source-based
> >>> equivalent, the name of the former should be suffixed
On Monday, October 17, 2016 03:37:28 AM William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Monday, October 17, 2016 8:57:30 AM EDT Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:30:44 -0400
> >
> > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote:
> > > Part of the idea is to help differentiate the types of binaries in tree
> > >
On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:14:53 PM Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 01:10:10AM +, Peter Stuge wrote
> >
> >> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> >> > For a build-from-source distro like Gentoo, gcc and associated
> >> >
On Thursday, October 27, 2016 09:21:06 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > I want to +1 this, but I do see one problem: If all dependencies are
> > defined, how does "emerge --with-bdeps=y --emptytree @world" work?
> >
On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 05:59:50 AM Doug Freed wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:11:48 +
> >
> > So are we going to have a broken rsync tree for 4 days due to the manifest
> > validation failing on every package, resulting in no
On Monday, November 28, 2016 02:39:48 PM William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Monday, November 28, 2016 10:42:54 AM EST Alec Warner wrote:
> > Generally speaking as a fellow who maintained thousands of systems (many
> > of
> > which ran various operating systems.)
> >
> > You cannot rely on all OS v
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 04:49:24 PM William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 10:40:20 AM EST Michael Mol wrote:
> > Highly detailed lists like that--used as a broad standard--are a bad idea.
> > They represent a single synchronization point that every
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 01:41:24 PM William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:22:07 PM EST Michael Mol wrote:
> > If Gentoo wants to do it internally, that's one thing.
>
> This list is about Gentoo internal things
Here, let me bring up a b
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 03:25:21 PM William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:08:30 PM EST Michael Mol wrote:
> > > IMHO it is something that should be a part of LSB. If not POSIX in
> > > general. One cannot really change the past or cu
On Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:13:17 PM Andrey Utkin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 12:50:42PM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote:
[snip]
> > Thanks for bringing this to attention. It's somewhat related to another
> > discussion we've been having about copyright, and it may be worth
> > considerin
On Friday, December 02, 2016 02:10:27 PM Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being
> started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects
> that I've forgotten who was working on most of them.
>
> I know that Toralf i
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
>
> gro...@gentoo.org wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote:
> > > IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it
> > > heavily depends on wireless-tools and WE
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:24:19 AM EST Damien LEVAC wrote:
> On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote:
> >> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07)
> >>
> >> gro...@gentoo.org wrote:
&
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:23:02 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine
> > auditing. Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be
> >
On Friday, January 6, 2017 5:27:24 PM EST Kent Fredric wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500
>
> Rich Freeman wrote:
> > I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed
> > unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things
> > blocking other Gentoo packa
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use
>> some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitment documentation
>
> Recruitment documentatiob? What does th
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Roy Bamford wrote:
> On 2012.12.17 16:02, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>> On 12/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Give the talk on the list about attracting devs, I've should
>> > probably mention that I'm teaching a College
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 20/12/12 10:37 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
>>>
/var/cache/repositories/ /var/cache/repositories/gentoo <==
the main portage tree /var/cache/repositories/local<== the
>>>
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Diego Elio Pettenň wrote:
>
>>> /var/cache/portage/distfiles
>>> /var/cache/portage/repositories/gentoo
>>> /var/cache/portage/repositories/{sunrise,kde,gnome,whatever,layman,grabs}
>>> /var/db/portage/repositories
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:31 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 06:58:11AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:25 AM, George Shapovalov wrote:
>> > On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:39 Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> >> > /var/cache/repositories/local<== the new
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>
> My point is that you consistently write long essays that I, and
> apparently most others, don't bother to read. I'm not sure if you're
> aware of this.
>
> Someone sa
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
>
>> On 20.12.2012 19:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> The tree is a database. It belongs in /var/db/.
>
>> I don't see /var/db in the latest release of the Filesystem
>> Hierarchy Standard:
>
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012, Diego Elio Pettenň wrote:
>
>>> /var/cache/packages/ PKGDIR
>
>> Maybe /var/spool/binpkgs ?
>
> This doesn't look right to me. /var/spool contains things like printer
> queues or outgoing mail that are typically del
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 16:42 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> On 27 December 2012 00:39, Kent Fredric wrote:
>> > Can we short cut the whole quiz process and have some "Inbound" repository
>> > until we're full git, which people can fork/commit/
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
>> On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 16:42 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
>>> On 27 December 2012 00:39, Kent Fredric wrote:
>>> > Can we short cut the whole quiz
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