Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-15 Thread Joshua Kinard
ible? >>>>> >>>> >>>> William has confirmed on IRC that USE=-split-usr performs the >>>> complete >>>> Fedora-esque /usr merge (which makes sense IMO). >>> >>> William's opinion is not the only one that matters

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
o find for someone browsing the distfiles server and easy to predict where a distfile is at. No math, statistical analysis, or deep-rooted knowledge of filesystems behind that paragraph. Just a plain old unfiltered opinion. Sometimes, I need to go get a distfile off the Gentoo mirrors, and being ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin'

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
ng organized), so dumping everything into one spot -- which is something I do at home WAY too much -- just strikes me as a bad idea. Binning stuff into different buckets offers SOME degree of organization. It also means 'ls -l /bin' is still somewhat readable on a system with a full des

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/19/2019 19:57, Alec Warner wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:24 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> On 10/18/2019 09:41, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Hi, everybody. >>> >>> It is my pleasure to announce that yesterday (EU) evening we've switched >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 02:51, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 19:24 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 10/18/2019 09:41, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Hi, everybody. >>> >>> It is my pleasure to announce that yesterday (EU) evening we've switched >>&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 04:32, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 04:25 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 10/20/2019 02:51, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 19:24 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> On 10/18/2019 09:41, Michał Górny wrote: >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 05:44, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 05:21 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 10/20/2019 04:32, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 04:25 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> Why is having a max ~24k files in a directory a bad idea

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/20/2019 16:57, Joshua Kinard wrote:> On 10/20/2019 05:44, Michal Górny wrote: >> On Sun, 2019-10-20 at 05:21 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> On 10/20/2019 04:32, Michal Górny wrote: [snip] >> You believe it to be a problem. Don't expect others to bother upst

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/21/2019 06:13, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 16:57:54 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> I know we've got a ton of Perl packages for the core set of Perl modules, >> but doesn't the CPAN eclass also have the capability to auto-generate an >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New distfile mirror layout

2019-10-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
to implement them following discussion. Having the discussion, then waiting a few years before implementing them leads to discussions like this where we're arguing about the color of the boat after the boat has sailed off into the distance. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
-/usr movement is completely wrong, but I digress in a troll-like fashion). Of course, this leaves my poor SGI systems in a questionable state. ZFS is completely reliant on checksums, and ARC needs gobs upon gobs of RAM. So that right there means ZFS might not be viable on those old systems (at leas

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/27/2019 06:06, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >> kernel compiles (and it makes them bigger, something which is an issue on >> t

Re: [gentoo-dev] separate /usr without initramfs

2019-10-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 10/27/2019 12:12, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:06 AM James Le Cuirot wrote: >> >> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 05:38:48 -0400 >> Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >>> Why do I not like an initramfs, though? Well, for one, it complicates the >>&

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
manner as an EAPI deprecation and removal, given how ingrained it is due to its longevity. That will minimize the whiplash-effect of emerge complaining about slot conflicts and dependency conflicts. Like I just ran into w/ setuptools-45.0.0.0's release. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 17:17, David Seifert wrote: > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:07 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 12/5/2019 09:24, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:59 AM Jason A. Donenfeld >>> wrote: >>>> It's quite another to mask random pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 17:32, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 23:07:24 CET Joshua Kinard wrote: >> It might be worthwhile to treat the removal of Python-2.7 from the tree in >> the same manner as an EAPI deprecation and removal, given how ingrained it >> is

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 17:46, David Seifert wrote: > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:43 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 1/12/2020 17:32, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: >>> On Sonntag, 12. Januar 2020 23:07:24 CET Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> It might be worthwhile to treat the removal of

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-12 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/12/2020 19:21, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:17:36AM +0100, David Seifert wrote: >> On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:55 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> On 1/12/2020 17:46, David Seifert wrote: >>>> On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:43 -0500, Joshua Kinard w

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

2020-01-13 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 1/13/2020 01:52, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 17:07 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: [snip] > Joshua, > > I understand that you don't do much Python ebuild work, or probably > Python development in general. I understand that you may feel like you > need

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-devel/gcc::mgorny up for testing

2014-12-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
dev produces working cross-toolchains and is a valuable tool for anyone running multiple arches, especially slower arches. How it produces said working cross-toolchains is an implementation detail. Don't be so hasty as to throw the baby out with the bathwater. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Things one could be upset about

2015-01-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
Eventually just unpacked the seed stage3 on both systems, updated libtool/libltdl, repacked them, and used those as the as seed stages. Kinda defeats the purpose of catalyst in the first place. Looks like I have to repeat for perl now, which seems to do this every major update. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Things one could be upset about

2015-01-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 01/22/2015 10:19, Peter Stuge wrote: > Joshua Kinard wrote: >> Using seed stage3 stages I built 6 months ago (but never released due >> to getting sidetracked), I run into errors like this: >> >> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libusbhp: ChangeLog Manifest libusbhp-1.0.2.ebuild metadata.xml

2015-02-16 Thread Joshua Kinard
in this instance. We don't have to like each other, but we do need to learn to work around our differences and disagreements for the good of the project. So, lets learn something from this and move along. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] About reducing or even removing stable tree for some arches

2015-02-16 Thread Joshua Kinard
branch get cut say, once a year (or less -- Debian is ~18mo?), another group of devs works on stabilizing that (and periodically cherrypicking from the master branch), and when the time comes, totally freeze that for security revs only by a smaller group of devs? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libusbhp: ChangeLog Manifest libusbhp-1.0.2.ebuild metadata.xml

2015-02-16 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/16/2015 09:04, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> As far as removing the ebuild goes, that was probably the correct course of >> action, because we Yanks love to make our legal code as bizzaringly complex >> as >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libusbhp: ChangeLog Manifest libusbhp-1.0.2.ebuild metadata.xml

2015-02-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 02/16/2015 13:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 02/16/2015 09:04, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> I do think that moving to a cleaner policy makes a lot of sense. The >>> problem is that doing this sort of thing right pot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Naming of repositories: gento-x86 edition, bike shedding wanted

2015-03-19 Thread Joshua Kinard
talking, but regardless of whatever the future name is, I'm probably always going to call it the "portage tree", because that's all I've ever known it as. I guess if I *had* to choose a new name, the following variations come to mind (kinda in no particular order): pkgt

[gentoo-dev] Restoring from the Attic?

2015-03-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
What's the procedure for restoring ebuilds from the CVS Attic? I need to temporarily restore an ebuild from the Attic while hunting down a solution for Bug #543978. The CVS Tutorial doesn't have anything on this specific operation. Thanks!, -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Restoring from the Attic?

2015-03-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 03/21/2015 14:05, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 21. März 2015, 19:01:08 schrieb Joshua Kinard: >> What's the procedure for restoring ebuilds from the CVS Attic? I need to >> temporarily restore an ebuild from the Attic while hunting down a solution >> fo

[gentoo-dev] CGA Web™ graphics standards

2015-04-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
Arguably the best 04/01 gag I've seen today. Can we keep this? It'll make browsing the site on old SGI machines so much easier... -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And

[gentoo-dev] Excessive rsync time after git migration

2015-08-15 Thread Joshua Kinard
wise between then. So I'm not sure what's causing 'emerge --sync' to re-fetch the whole file. Has anyone else noticed this and/or have a workaround? It's causing some excessive disk thrashing, and what used to be a few seconds to sync is now taking 5-10mins or more (depe

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
if at all possible, especially in Python. TCL is the base language, and well-entrenched in some really niche areas, like eggdrop bot scripting and the like. IIRC, everything in TCL is effectively a string, and it's very much an event-driven language via the use of "binds". Tk is f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: tcltk herd empty

2015-10-04 Thread Joshua Kinard
e Enigmail upstream. Or does Mozilla Seamonkey include PGP/GPG functionality? I only use the browser component of that. Been using Thunderbird+Enigmail for quite a long time for PGP/GPG. enigmail is picking up on the embedded PGP marker as well and displaying a blue bar for me on some of the messages i

[gentoo-dev] .git folder getting mirrored to rsync mirrors

2015-11-29 Thread Joshua Kinard
7.33K bytes/sec total size is 391.32M speedup is 80.63 === Sync completed for gentoo -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 6144R/F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives

[gentoo-dev] ncurses-5.9 -> ncurses-6.0 step-by-step?

2015-12-13 Thread Joshua Kinard
curses.so.5. Thanks!, -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 6144R/F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between.&quo

Re: [gentoo-dev] hasufell's extended leave and libressl

2016-01-16 Thread Joshua Kinard
github.com/gentoo/libressl/wiki/Transition-plan > > I'd like to solicit help in pushing this through. Any takers? Is the plan to just make packages in the tree compatible with libressl so that users can choose either one, or to migrate off of openssl entirely? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herd up for grabs: net-dialup

2016-01-16 Thread Joshua Kinard
es (namely cavalier sprintf() usage with no buffer overflow checks). It's been on my TODO list to fix up one of these days, as well as adding the hard-to-find 5.x release. I've also played with hylafax and iaxmodem before, but no longer have setups to test those with. -- Joshua Kinard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herd likely up for grabs: kernel-misc

2016-01-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 01/17/2016 14:57, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > The current maintainers of kernel-misc herd so far haven't replied to > our queries. If we don't get any reply in a week, we will be disbanding > it and looking for new maintainers for its packages. > > Is anyone interested in keepin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herd likely up for grabs: net-fs

2016-01-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 01/17/2016 15:03, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > The current maintainer of net-fs herd so far hasn't replied to our > queries. If we don't get any reply in a week, we will be disbanding it > and looking for new maintainers for its packages. > > Is anyone interested in keeping the h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Herd likely up for grabs: kernel-misc

2016-01-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 01/20/2016 14:48, Duncan wrote: > Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:40:04 -0500 as excerpted: > >> if base-system@ isn't going to maintain it, we'll punt it from the herd >> -mike > > Umm, you mean project, right? Because the whole discussion here is part > of getting rid of herds

Re: [gentoo-dev] musl doesn't provide execinfo.h

2020-03-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
message in 2015 from the lead musl developer: https://www.openwall.com/lists/musl/2015/04/09/3 -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] flag-o-matic.eclass: add some missing MIPS CPU errata options to ALLOWED_FLAGS

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
d the -mr10k-cache-barrier to control the generation of cache barriers to work around the side-effects of R1's speculative execution capabilities. Signed-off-by: Joshua Kinard --- eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass | 4 +++- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/ecl

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-fs/ncpfs, net-misc/ipx-utils

2020-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
# Joshua Kinard (2020-03-28) # In Linux ~4.18, IPX (Internetwork Packet eXchange) protocol and # NCPFS (NetWare Core Protocol Filesystem) support was removed due # to lack of maintenance. Due to both being dead from a technology # standpoint and lack of any upstream activity, mask the below

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cleaning up the installation handbook (Legacy boot / MBR / ...)

2020-05-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
be put into its own section below the more modern approach, with appropriate disclaimers that it is legacy. But odds are likely, it will need to be retained for quite a few more years. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63

[gentoo-dev] Bug #733802, USE 'scp' now defaults to off in net-misc/openssh

2020-07-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
So I stumbled into Bug #733802, which now defaults the 'scp' USE flag to off in net-misc/openssh. This seems like something that needs a news entry, or at least a "heads up" on the mailing list? Potential for some scripts to break if scp suddenly goes missing after an openssh

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
some verifiable reason why eudev is no longer suitable to be the default udev provider. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/10/2020 11:22, William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:00:44AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 8/8/2020 14:51, William Hubbs wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I would like to propose that we switch the default udev provider on new >>> syst

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev

2020-08-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/10/2020 22:08, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:55 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 8/10/2020 11:22, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 12:00:44AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> >>>> If eudev is not broken, th

[gentoo-dev] Pushing to distfiles?

2020-11-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
that details how to get new distfiles onto the mirrors. Thanks, -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pushing to distfiles?

2020-11-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 11/11/2020 19:38, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 7:23 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> Forgive me for being a dunce, but what is the current procedure to push >> files to distfiles for distribution to the mirrors? The devmanual is blank >> on this t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: dropping support for uclibc-ng

2021-01-05 Thread Joshua Kinard
g begins. Rebuilding ncurses in this stage3 will break Python, which breaks emerge. Never figured it out. I can trace the failure using GDB to a point in Python, but not much farther beyond that. I assume the true cause is something in uclibc-ng itself. Upstream seems to like to borrow chunks of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: dropping support for uclibc-ng

2021-01-05 Thread Joshua Kinard
or MIPS/o32. musl quite literally >> JustWorks(). It's great. Even with that tiny bit of bloat in the netboot >> build (workable, cause I needed to make NFS Root an option anyways). > >> So long story short, I won't shed any tears if uclibc-ng goes away. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last-rites: sys-power/pm-utils, sys-power/pm-quirks, app-admin/cgmanager and sys-libs/libnih

2021-01-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
pm-hibernate --> s2disk pm-suspend-hybrid --> s2both -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dealing with global /usr/bin/libtool use vs CC/CXX etc.

2021-01-10 Thread Joshua Kinard
eaks. > However, I'm not sure if this executable isn't required for some obscure > reason anyway. Second option seems better, and basically just enforces what's been a standard habit anyways (I at least try to manually rebuild libtool when changing gcc major versions, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [Python-Dev] Move support of legacy platforms/architectures outside Python

2021-02-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
an probably be dropped and replaced with support for Haiku. That project is coming along rather nicely. >> >> -- >> >> There is also a "Stable Buildbot" category used by the "Release >> Status" web page: >> https://buildbot.python.org/all/#/relea

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
lity currently in the kernel, unless I have over looked something. Otherwise in the future, I may just have to setup an initramfs into an NFS Root and teach the SGI's to somehow deal with it. Which all still seems unnecessarily complicated because some other distro thinks it knows what's be

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/27/2021 18:16, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:43:34 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> I kinda wish the Linux kernel had an ability to partially boot, init the >> networking subsystem, then fetch an initramfs image over TFTP like it can do >> with

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/27/2021 21:00, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 5:43 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> I kinda wish the Linux kernel had an ability to partially boot, init the >> networking subsystem, then fetch an initramfs image over TFTP like it can do >> with NFS

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/27/2021 20:32, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 05:43:34PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 3/23/2021 07:31, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 6:54 PM Andreas K. Huettel >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Council deci

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/28/2021 16:05, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:51:11PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 3/27/2021 20:32, William Hubbs wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 05:43:34PM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> On 3/23/2021 07:31, Rich Freeman wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 3/28/2021 05:25, James Le Cuirot wrote:> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 18:40:52 -0400 Joshua Kinard > wrote: > >> On 3/27/2021 18:16, James Le Cuirot wrote: >>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:43:34 -0400 Joshua Kinard >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I kinda wish the Li

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: sys-boot/lilo

2021-06-04 Thread Joshua Kinard
n't mind if someone could port FreeBSD's bootloader to Linux... However, I am very time-limited, so I will defer to Hank or Peter if they wish to tackle any open bugs and I'll serve as final reviewer, tester, and committer. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4

[gentoo-dev] Copyright lines in the profiles directory

2021-06-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
pyright 2011-2014 Gentoo Foundation -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright lines in the profiles directory

2021-06-20 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 6/21/2021 01:36, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2021, Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> Doing some review/cleanups in the MIPS profiles and there's some >> degree of variability going on with the top copyright header, mainly >> in the beginn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Copyright lines in the profiles directory

2021-06-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
Copyright 1999-2013 Gentoo Foundation TZ=UTC git log --find-renames --find-copies --follow --pretty="format:%ad" --date="format-local:%Y" profiles/arch/mips/mips64/multilib/n64/use.force | tail -n1 2011 -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing SHA512 hash from Manifests

2021-07-24 Thread Joshua Kinard
ow that algo is fairly new (Jan 2020). A quick read indicates it merges a number of the BLAKE2 variants together and is faster in some areas of execution. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "T

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Add deblob support only for python3

2021-07-26 Thread Joshua Kinard
t;Deblob support requires a Linux kernel >=5.10" Is used instead? Also, the die message text can drop the triple exclamation marks. One exclamation mark is enough. And someone correct me if wrong, as I am reading this thread late, but deblobbing is disabled by setting K_DEBLOB_AVAILABLE=

[gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-07-31 Thread Joshua Kinard
e base profiles directory. Thoughts? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-07-31 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 7/31/2021 18:47, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 31 Jul 2021, at 23:42, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> >> I can't find much documentation on the 'eapi' file found in many of the >> profile directories. Several of the ones in >> profiles/arc

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-07-31 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 7/31/2021 22:02, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 1 Aug 2021, at 00:23, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >>> [snip] >> >> Yeah, I found one mention in the Wiki[1], but not under "Profiles" in the >> devmanual[2]. The Wiki description doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-08-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/1/2021 08:19, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, P, 01.08.2021 kell 00:58, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >> numeric value of the supported EAPI > > EAPI isn't a numeric value, it is a string (section 3.1.8) - it just > happens that Gentoo official ones are logi

Re: [gentoo-dev] About the 'eapi' file in profile directories

2021-08-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/1/2021 08:19, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, P, 01.08.2021 kell 00:58, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: >> numeric value of the supported EAPI > > EAPI isn't a numeric value, it is a string (section 3.1.8) - it just > happens that Gentoo official ones are logi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new category for container related packages, instead of app-emulation

2021-08-06 Thread Joshua Kinard
an intentional part of the original design of Portage. That said, other distros also use categories for their packaging systems, they're just less apparent. Run aptitude in Debian for a curses-based interface to the apt system and you can browse their multi-level package organization..

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-dialup/xc

2021-08-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
# Joshua Kinard (2021-08-09) # Dead upstream and has build issues in modern times. # See bugs #551786 and #715846. Removal in 30 days. net-dialup/xc

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item for uClibc-ng deprecation

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
rying to bootstrap a new environment from scratch at some point, but just haven't gotten around to it. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item for uClibc-ng deprecation

2021-08-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 8/17/2021 13:49, Sam James wrote: > > >> On 17 Aug 2021, at 16:19, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> [snip] >> >> According to the uClibc-ng website, 1.0.38 was released earlier this year >> (March 27th). Was an announcement put out somewhere about the project

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
gt; > I am willing to transfer eudev to another umbrella organisation or Linux s/organisation/organization/ > distribution that is willing to continue its maintenance, but > maintaining eudev cannot be done purely through proxy-maintaining and > requires an understanding of its internal

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for eudev deprecation

2021-08-23 Thread Joshua Kinard
t;Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?" https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/c20d9ada8e05dc1707f021ff01d28802 Seems like the sane option is to just drop the INSTALL_MASK and deal with a gaggle of systemd unit files eating up some inode space. I obv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
he hostkeys at bootup takes just a second or two, whereas RSA can take up to 10-15 seconds. So I'd like to be able to use ECC on these platforms and distribute netboot images using them. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F25

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-22 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 9/22/2021 12:37, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:54:40AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> Is there any advice on how this impacts net-misc/dropbear? That has ECC >> (both ECDSA and Ed25519) support, and I use it for SGI/MIPS netboot images. >> The b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-24 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 9/23/2021 12:10, Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:54 PM Joshua Kinard wrote: >> >> On 9/22/2021 12:37, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 08:54:40AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>>> Is there any advice on how this impa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-25 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 9/24/2021 03:55, Hanno Böck wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 03:46:51 -0400 > Joshua Kinard wrote: > >> If I remember this weekend, I'll e-mail the libtomcrypt author and >> see if they have any insight. One would hope they did their own >> research before possibl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Portage einfo, elog... output format change

2021-10-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
t to change those too at some > point? > > Final question, am I understanding correctly that normal lines are not > prefixed with something? Would it be, for consistency, alignment, and > certainty of selecting rows something to use a prefix for those lines > too (assuming they aren'

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/1] Add 'notes' element to metadata.xml (GLEP 68)

2021-10-05 Thread Joshua Kinard
>> glep-0068.rst | 26 +++--- Or perhaps we could use RST formatting like the GLEP source there to keep the plain text form readable, but also support visual rendering into HTML if needed? >> 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) >&

[gentoo-dev] Re: You currently cannot smoothly upgrade a 4 months old Gentoo system

2021-11-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
ug switch. We've got a reputation for being playful and colorful on the command line with our tooling, so I would wonder if that depgraph output couldn't be made to looknicer? -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BA

[gentoo-dev] sys-fs/udev-249.6-r1: warning that split-usr mode will be removed?

2021-12-06 Thread Joshua Kinard
ic, I figured I'd inquire. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
ia-* seems more aligned to things like sound, video, and graphics (the digital kind), and less about print media. sys-print implies the system-level connections that a printer has, and would be a good fit for all of the printer driver packages, but not as good a fit for things like net-print/poster

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-18 Thread Joshua Kinard
of having an idea and wanting to contribute it to the other ideas submitted. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org rsa6144/5C63F4E3F5C6C943 2015-04-27 177C 1972 1FB8 F254 BAD0 3E72 5C63 F4E3 F5C6 C943 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our live

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] making rust-bin ordered first in virtual/rust

2022-01-21 Thread Joshua Kinard
nabled version as well as a non-X11 version of the binpkg. For all other cases, it's fairly straight forward to build a few packages yourself via Ports with your own USES selections. E.g., I don't need python support in bind-tools, so I build that one on my appliances myself to reduce the re

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