es if there's a
need and enough human power to do so.
Comments welcome, and thanks for reading.
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 20:15, Philip Webb wrote:
> 090519 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> This is a request for comments on a new project "Gentoo Support
>> Everywhere".
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/
>> this forum thread might be more clarifying:
>&g
On Tue, May 19, 2009 21:01, Philip Webb wrote:
> 090519 Justin Lecher wrote:
>
>> Philip Webb schrieb:
>>
>>> 090519 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>>>
>>>> The initial aim is to provide some support to these lost souls
>>>> that wander aro
On Tue, May 19, 2009 21:52, Dale wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> This is a request for comments on a new project,
>> namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere".
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/
>>
>>
On Tue, May 19, 2009 23:42, Robert Buchholz wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 21:52, Dale wrote:
>>
>>> Also, the link to your thread does not exist. I get "The topic or
>>> post you requested does not exi
do so.
>
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-762914.html
I've checked it lots of times, and it's there. It's in the "Moderators"
subforum, and it's near to the top of the list on that subforum so if
you can access that subforum you shouldn't have a problem finding it,
since linuxquestions is in the title.
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that I answer things about
gentoo there is not open for discussion: it is a fact.
I just want to ease my job there.
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 01:05, AllenJB wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 00:40, Duncan wrote:
>>
>>> Jesús Guerrero posted
>>> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-762914.html
>>>
>>
>> I've checked it lots of tim
e linuxquestions is in the title.
>>
>
> Umm *only* Forum Moderators and forum admins can view that sekrit
> section of the forums. Its not even linked for anyone else
>
>
>
>
>
>
Check now, I've moved it on request.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-762914.html
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e
> to know that in the beginning, but maybe you (Jesús) didn't realize how
> restricted that subforum was, or perhaps more likely did but just weren't
> thinking about it.
I was aware that it's a restricted forum, but somehow I think I remember
that devs could post there. Obviously, I was either hallucinating or
maybe some of them can, and some of them can't.
That was all the confusion for which I apologize. :)
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 02:18, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 01:10 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 00:37, Dale wrote:
>>
>>> That would be the point. Gentoo has its own forum so why have two
>>> forums? What would be the p
However all the reasoning has already been exposed on this thread.
The rest is discussion on how to go about forming the project, and
some other technical speech.
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 05:33, Dale wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
> I don't see how doing double the work will benefit anyone. Its a lot
> easier to have one forum than it is to have two forums. I just think the
> Gentoo folks would be better to concentrate on what
ither.
In the same lines, the fact that I support people at LQ is not
going to change the kind of support nor the quality of the support
that I give on our own forums.
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lem with gse being a subproject
since it makes some sense. I would be taking care of the gse
stuff of course, so they don't have to do any extra work or
something.
Thanks for your answer :)
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ays, and I haven't found any more
official doc on it. Quoting it:
"Any dev may create a new project just by creating a new page (or, more
realistically, directory and page) in gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en and
sending a Request For Comments (RFC) e-mail to gentoo-dev."
So, these are the steps I've followed. As said, I am new to this
stuff.
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ently of
LQ or any other concrete place. LQ is just a particular case
where we can be useful.
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help people on other sites but I don't go
>> looking for Gentoo fixes there.
>>
>
> Agreed, but people will do it anyway. We can't "shut down"
> http://www.gentoo-quebec.org/forum/ for example.
I already explained in my other posts that this is not about
segregating the support. It is about handling something that's
real, it doesn't matter if you like it or not: *it's real*,
people do post there. The world is as it is. That's another
thing that I won't repeat again because this is going round
in circles.
This will have exactly zero negative effect on the Gentoo forum,
eventually users on those forum(s) will use forums.gentoo.org
directed to here by me.
Comments are always welcome, but we are saying the same thing
again and again ad infinitum so I'll leave it at that unless
new arguments appear in scene.
Regards :)
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 22:58, AllenJB wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> This is a request for comments on a new project,
>> namely "Gentoo Support Everywhere".
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/
>>
>>
ail to gentoo-dev."
>>
>>
>> So, these are the steps I've followed. As said, I am new to this
>> stuff.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah I don't think the GLEPs have been active maintained for a while but
> really need to something to that. I stress to new devs to think to use
> gentoo-dev-announce for all important matters even if the docs don't
> explicitly state it. Any way please also make a post to
> gentoo-dev-announce to rectify the situation.
Thanks Petteri, I shall do it.
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.
Whether you pick cdda, cdaudio or audiocd is completely unimportant
to me, the other two functionalities shouldn't have anything to do
with this.
Let's concentrate on the original purpose of the thread: choose what flag
is the right one to designate "audio cd support", and forget the rest of
creative ideas.
:)
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her xmms-like thing, it works,
and it doesn't only work, but today it works *far better* than the qt4
newer alternatives, in most cases anyway.
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the offended apps :)
> If you feel passionate about Qt3 and want to make the case for keeping
> it in portage, then step up and become its maintainer.
Not really. I use just a couple of qt3/kde3 programs, and not that much.
All I just wanted is to shake this topic a bit to hear what people and
developers think about this.
An interesting thread. Thanks for all the insight.
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n Overlay
>
> Maybe we should move Miro to the main tree?
Most Gentoo users will have no problem to use overlays as they need
them. If we had more developers we could as maintain more packages,
as simple as that.
Besides that, if you want some new version, you are free to use
bugs.gentoo.org to submit a bug, version bump, or whatever.
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:47:27 -0400, Richard Freeman
wrote:
> Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>>
>> Most Gentoo users will have no problem to use overlays as they need
>> them. If we had more developers we could as maintain more packages,
>> as simple as that.
>>
>
t; least one recruit at most times :)
>
> Or for those of you too lazy for that - do whatever you can to recruit
> your
> replacement. Once you've managed that you can be as lazy as you want!
Yep. All comes down to the same, lack of man power I think.
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:41:13 +0200, Patrick Lauer
wrote:
> On Sunday 13 September 2009 21:03:13 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:57:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer
>>
>> wrote:
>> > First issue: How do I find out in which overlay stuff is?
>>
>>
set python to 3.1 and see how "wonderfully" your portage
works...
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older
> versions, but it would require many ugly exec() calls etc.
"Possible" doesn't equal to "real". Most software won't work with 3.1,
TODAY.
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still be a very special case because python is a core piece in this
OS, and not on any other.
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t; maintainers to fix their python based apps just like it's done with gcc
> stabilization.
That's not the usual case. In Gentoo we have a serious policy of not
marking as stable things until it has passed one month without any serious
bug report about it. And you are proposing t
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:24:53 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
wrote:
> 2009-09-20 16:53:37 Jesús Guerrero napisał(a):
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:41:32 +0200, Dawid Węgliński
>> wrote:
>> > On Sunday 20 of September 2009 00:32:28 Dale wrote:
>> >> &g
em" set is about in first place. We
could argue if creating a new category would be any good or not, that's a
different issue. But there's already a list of packages that's considered
critical for a Gentoo system. That's what "system" is, and you will get a
big red waning when trying to uninstall one package belonging to this
category.
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m to handle
some things could be better, but I've grown accustomed to the way it is and
I really don't care if that changes or not.
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where two simple USE flags suffice? I don't think it's even more elegant,
and in the worst case, it makes the things uselessly complicated when you
want to use both desktops.
We could also add an "image" subprofile, for those wanting USE="jpeg svg
png tiff" etc. Or an "fb" profile, for those only wanting USE="-X
directfb". It's a nonsense, I know. The desktop subprofiles are also a
nonsense to me :p
Just my opinion of course :)
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o do the same
thing that *one* single USE flag can do is a nonsense *to me*.
I am already hearing all the new (and old) users asking what the damn
difference between the flag and the profile is. It's a cool way to create
extra traffic and confusion for absolutely no benefit. But hey, maybe it's
just that my old brain can't cope with the coolness :)
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ave recently created a Twitter account (@ompskees) as well.
>
> Once again, thank you for everything, but my time has come. Adieu!
Bye David, I wish you luck on whatever way you choose to follow from now
on.
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