Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for changes to GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:26:20 + Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Drop the idea of giving the arch testers an email alias altogether > > * Change @subdomain.gentoo.org to @gentoo.org. > > * Create an entirely new domain > And fourthly: * Give those arch testers a temporary [EMAI

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Jeroen Roovers aka JeR

2005-11-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:53:47 -0600 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: tx, Brian. This needs some patching after two months: > I have lived in the Nederlands all my life and still intend to change > that. I am married and I have two children (now aged 5 and nearly 4). s|nearly|| > I cur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Misquoted in the GWN

2005-11-28 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:46:57 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not bring back the "the GWN is a community thing and YOU can also > contribute!!!" mentality? Release early, release often? JeR -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Global logrotate use flag

2006-03-21 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi everyone, I noticed 'logrotate' is becoming quite generic as a use flag: # euses logrotate app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate net-ftp/vsftpd:logrotate - Use logrotate for rotating logs net-misc/nt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global logrotate use flag

2006-03-21 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:28:38 + Markus Rothe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/27451 I read that at the time. This is just a reminder. JeR -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-23 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:31:40 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your nightmare scenario seems unavoidable. Enabling per-overlay bug > > tracking doesn't stop users posting bugs in bugzilla. It just > > causes confusion for users, because they're not sure where to go. > > Norma

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 01:27:54 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i recognize i'm a bit of a dick and i'm trying to change. I'll use this opportunity to add that your efforts are not going unnoticed. Thanks. Kind regards to all, JeR -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge resume list

2006-04-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:52:48 +1000 evader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I do an emerge -e world where is the list of files to be merged > stored? For example if I break an emerge, and want to resume later > from a different position, can I edit the packages to be emerged list > so I don't ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-power/nut: ChangeLog nut-2.2.1.ebuild

2008-03-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:20:31 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06:03 Sun 09 Mar , Rajiv Aaron Manglani (rajiv) wrote: > > 1.1 sys-power/nut/nut-2.2.1.ebuild > > > > file : > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-power/nut/nut-2.2.1.ebuild?r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-gfx/inkscape: ChangeLog inkscape-0.46-r1.ebuild

2008-03-16 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:51:12 +0100 Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not if COPYING file is inside $DOCS and is installed in the loop. Doing something like this would work as well (and go equally unnoticed): local DOCS="foo bar COPYING baz" dodoc ${DOCS} Using a loop in the ebuild wo

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-firewall/conntrack

2008-03-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
# Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Mar 2008) # Deprecated in favour of net-firewall/conntrack-tools, which # merges both conntrack and conntrackd (bug #213084). # Going for removal on or about 19 Apr 2008: net-firewall/conntrack -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: OT: offensive (Re: [gentoo-dev] explicit -r0 in ebuild filename)

2008-03-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:40:42 +0200 Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please think things through before asking to have pkgcore's bugs > > 'fixed' via specification next time... > > maybe my english language skills or social interaction qualities are > failing me, but i find the above

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default-linux/alpha: ChangeLog use.mask

2008-04-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 01:40:37 +1100 Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:51:59 am Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > "Daniel Black (dragonheart)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > + 01 Apr 2008; Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> use.mask: > > > + mask ssh2 as net-libs/l

[gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Dear ebuild maintainers, thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds last non-keywording change while in the tree and the usual call for stabilisation. If you cannot find a pressing reason to push stabilisation forward, then don't ask. In the last few days I have seen s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0200 > Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > Okay. So we can just agree it's better if the maintainer tells his > > reasons when opening the bug, to spare the later clarifica

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "It works. Do it." Oh by the way. This isn't directed toward you personally, but I personally detest this "do it" attitude. You wouldn't say that to my face, would you? (Trust me, you would regret it.) :) JeR -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:04:36 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:38 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 > > Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "It works. Do i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:06:07 +0200 Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good > description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really > have a package which needs 'keyring' for something else. Needless to say it would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-21 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:02:29 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to get technical but how difficult is it really to change USE > flag names? I appreciate that users are out of sync yadda yadda, but > could this kind of thing not be considered out of band data similar > to news? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] retirement

2008-04-22 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:22:14 +0100 Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks especially to the arch teams for all the time they put in for > us in testing and stabilising Haskell packages on such a wide range > of platforms. I feel I should also apologise to jer for constantly > breaking g

[gentoo-dev] Prioritising contact information in metadata.xml

2008-04-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi developers and other users, since jakub[1] went completely missing a few weeks ago a few others and I have been wrangling the bugs. I've heard rumours that this isn't working smoothly yet. Of course most of that can be fully blamed on bugzilla itself, but there are some things that need t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Goodbye

2008-05-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:33:21 +0300 "Alon Bar-Lev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have fun, > Alon. Thank you, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] FRC: debtools herd creation

2008-05-16 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:19:45 -0500 Yuri Vasilevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be adding things like debhelper, lintian and a little > bit later things like apt, aptitude, cdebootstrap, debian-live and > some more. Also there is debootstrap with > [EMAIL PROTECTED] which I'd like to adopt.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Eclass for gnome-python* split

2008-05-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 25 May 2008 02:26:42 +0530 "Arun Raghavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if has_version =dev-python/gtkspell-2*; then > LICENSE="GPL-2" > else > LICENSE="LGPL-2.1" > fi > > There is currently *no* way to express this in an ebuild without > invalidating the cache. For now this is ju

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-05-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:09:33 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > net-ftp/ncftp Yoink! Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=threads vs. USE=threadsafe

2008-06-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:25:29 +0200 Christian Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should be consistent here You may also want to consider the following: threadsonly [dev-libs/boost] ithreads [sys-devel/libperl] orathreads[dev-libs/libsqlora8] frnothreads [net-dialup/f

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=threads vs. USE=threadsafe

2008-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:37:40 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may also want to consider the following: > threadsonly [dev-libs/boost] > ithreads [sys-devel/libperl] > orathreads[dev-libs/libsqlora8] > frnothreads [net-dialup/freeradius

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:46:53 +0100 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct. Only developers can vote but anyone can nominate: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ > 6. Voting Process > > * Council elections generally happen once a year > > * Anyone can nominate (nomi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:17:05 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:11:44 +0200 > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, I would have thought there was a requirement to have been a > > developer for at least a year, j

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite: dev-cpp/libherdstat and app-portage/herdstat

2008-06-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:29:28 +0200 Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (07 Jun 2008) > # Various bugs and dead upstream > # herdstat: 164254, 184035, 222887 And bug 206879. Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:21:11 +0100 "Alex Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any time :) In which case I guess maybe Jeroen Roovers (rej / jer) > wants that spot on the ticket? ;) I'd like to nominate him too. > Looks like we'll have plenty of choice this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: lastrite: dev-cpp/libherdstat and app-portage/herdstat

2008-06-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:44:59 -0700 "Chip Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although it'll be a bit slower than a direct grep: for m in `find > /usr/portage -name metadata.xml `; do grep -Rn foo $m;done That would be horribly slow by comparison. :) Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.g

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:27:52 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The current council has raised "never actually deciding anything" to > an art form. Barking up the wrong (portage) tree again? Kindest regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Shiny new stuff

2008-06-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:29:07 +0200 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gentoo Arch Testing Tool: http://gatt.sourceforge.net/> for all > arch workers and testers. I call SPAM! (Now keyworded ~hppa.) Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:21:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that everything these days is an EAPI scope change. That's > not very useful for Gentoo, considering it's been quite some time > since PMS was proposed and we've not seen approval for either EAPI=0 > or EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing .la files...

2008-06-19 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:20:10 +0100 David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's to stop an application from loading a "normal" library using > libtool's dlopen wrapper (perhaps so it can fail gracefully if the > library is missing, for example)? That's a pretty basic definition of a plugin.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-19 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:06:21 +0100 David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason has already been explained multiple times, kindly stop > with the personal attacks and silly conspiracy theories. In this case the attacks seem to be targeting a person who has been attacking an entire ~300

[gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Jeroen Roovers
To anyone (else) out there who thinks that bug wranglers should be punished when they make mistakes in the heap of unthankful work they perform on a more than daily basis, I would like you to know that if you reassign bugs (back) to bug-wranglers@ without properly communicating the reason you are d

[gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi fellow developers, it seems I've run into a minor issue with fellow bug wrangler carlo (who has been putting a lot of work into that, for which we should all be grateful). Carsten has a cut-and-paste message that he posts in comments to version bump bug reports that he finds have been fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:26:13 +0100 "Tony \"Chainsaw\" Vroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:16 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request? > > If it is for software where I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-client/opera: ChangeLog opera-9.51.ebuild

2008-07-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:18:06 +0200 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - epatch "${FILESDIR}/${PN}-9.00-install.patch" > > + epatch "${FILESDIR}/${PN}-9.00-install.patch" || \ > > + die "failed to apply install patch" > > epatch dies on its own, so no need for all the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:43:06 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People are already doing those other things, and doing them badly, > because there's currently no other option. This isn't some > hypothetical future requirement. When you wrote "doing them badly", did you mean to imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:22:35 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:13:44 +0200 > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:43:06 +0100 > > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-08-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:50:01 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people wish to take specific categories, please let this thread > know. I'm working on net-analyzer. Regards, JeR

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer : Thomas Anderson (gentoofan23)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:43:32 +0200 "Denis Dupeyron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce Thomas Anderson (gentoofan23) as an It seems that you've been living two lives. One life, you're Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:26:18 + (UTC) Xx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I picked this message as the current last in thread to reply to. Please allow me to express my sincere distaste at the hijacking of this retirement announcement thread for (political) profit and/or fun. To the retirees: be

Re: [gentoo-dev] best way to use profiles and package.use.mask?

2008-08-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:33:04 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a distribution we should strive to make as many packages available with as many features as possible on as many architectures (or indeed operating systems) as possible.[1] Not communicating important changes in ebuilds t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]

2008-08-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:13:26 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the benefit? > There is none really. Allow all use flags to exist in metadata.xml. > It's really more of a clarification to the GLEP if this is allowed. I personally think that this would facilitate a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:17:48 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should LICENSE changes require a revision bump? No. Any ebuild should be published with a correct reference to a license. If you initially publish the ebuild with a bad reference, you simply correct it later on. It's not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about stabilization requests

2008-09-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:32:20 +0300 Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Setting test USE flag is never appropriate as far as I know. > FEATURES=test enables the USE flag on its own, and it should never be > enabled or disabled in a users USE settings in /etc/make.conf or any > other place. F

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

2008-09-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:22:12 -0600 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy > maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this > person be added to metadata.xml? Is there a special tag for this? I > can certain

[gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
# Gen 2 Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (`date`) # Masked for testing. >=rofl-cat/omgpkg-ver Please people, if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it. If you find that you cannot commit an ebuild because of badly keyworded dependencies, then drop the relevant keywords and file a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # Gen 2 Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (`date`) > # Masked for testing. > >=rofl-cat/omgpkg-ver > > > Please people, > > >if you want to get something tested, then do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
; have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - www-client/opera-9.60_pre2440 (masked by: package.mask) /keeps/gentoo/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (26 Aug 2008) # www-client/opera snapshots are m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 04:23:33 +0200 Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it's ok. ~arch isn't training ground. It's supposed to > work, so asking arch teams to keywords packages that are not supposed > to work isn't good. We have a "testing" branch and a "stable" branch, defin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:49:04 +0200 Hans de Graaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the suggestion is to have one generic homepage for all > packages without one, not a Gentoo-specific homepage for each project. +1 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/abandoned/ Put that in all ebuilds for packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:22:14 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/abandoned/ > > What about www.unmaintained-free-software.org? Possibly opening a > page?

[gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling from Oct 18 2008 until Oct 25 2008

2008-10-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi everyone, while I am away (from tomorrow until next Saturday - see my away message for the latest details) others will need to do some bug wrangling. Please familiarise yourself with [1] if you choose to participate. Kind regards, JeR [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/bug-wran

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dev-util/rej Taken. Unavoidable really. :) Kind regards, jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sys-block/viaideinfo And that one. rej

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:26:51 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Words > > like "production", "critical" and "important" can be applied as > > easily to the state of a company's or nation's system as to a > > single person's. > Yes, but it's a relative thing. >huge snip< That's wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:06:02 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's a "production, critical, important" system, then what is one > doing installing updates on it directly without verifying them on a > generally identical test system first? Now you're ridiculing the idea of havi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: mail-client/claws-mail

2008-12-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:00:16 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > # Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (02 Dec 2008) > # Removal because it has been integrated into Claws Mail > # Either use mail-client/claws-mail-3.6.1 (plain) or 3.6.1-r1 > # (USE=smime) > mail-cl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:40:19 +0100 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > From both a maintainers and arch-developers view: I'd like to see > automatically generated stable requests, but I'd leave it up to the > maintainer/herd/team to add architectures after a quick review (also > if there's a auto-stable-re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog use.local.desc

2009-01-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:56:18 -0500 Doug Goldstein wrote: > Probably about as hard as it would be to get you to stop top posting > like an Outlook 95 user... IMHO the problem isn't top posting, but excessive quoting. :) Kind regards, jer

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi folks, in light of some recent discussions where overlay maintainers found that bug reports had been assigned "incorrectly" and thought it was apt to inform the miscellaneous bug wranglers of the correct assignees, I thought it would be a good idea to introduce a new list, akin to metadat

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:56:15 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > What would really benefit Gentoo would be able to have the package > manager aware of [...] I am sure you know of one that would provide... :) jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what? I specifically didn't go into the minor technical details (of files and formats and so on) and described a basic process. Currently there is no well-defined process, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what? I assume for now that you meant [1]. As far as I can tell, that file would be useable if it didn't just follow whatever policy is set up for layman access to overlays. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use full package atoms for bug reports

2009-01-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:52:11 +0100 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > Please be so kind and use full package atoms in the bug description > line (especially when bug wrangling), searching is made easier that > way. "Bug reports that refer to a single or a few (similar) packages should det

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:02:21 + Mike Auty wrote: > According to [1], "When the file lists multiple entries, then you > assign the bug to the first maintainer, and CC the other > maintainer(s) and herd(s)." So it looks as though the file should go > through the maintainers first and herds seco

[gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi folks, both in #gentoo and more importantly in bug reports, people are often asked to provide their `emerge --info', which gives a quick and very useful overview of the most important bits found on the system that wants support or (allegedly) exhibits a bug. Based on that information it i

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:35:00 +0100 Dawid Węgliński wrote: > On Wednesday 18 of February 2009 23:22:12 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > In short, `paludis --info' is not a replacement, and when `emerge > > --info' is asked for in a bug report, post *that*. > > Hi Je

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:06 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > ...which is why you ask for 'paludis --info pkg', not 'paludis > --info'. Spread the word! jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:06 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Heck, Paludis even tells you this if you run --info without a spec: > > > No packages were specified on the command line, so detailed > > information is not available (Paludis can display detailed > > information for both installed and

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:24:25 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > http://git.pioto.org/gitweb/paludis.git?a=commitdiff;h=86dc61e Thanks. I hope it helps. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:21:23 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions [...] A multitude of leaves on every branch of the tree. That could be a multiple of the current tree size - maybe talk to infra about this. It's also a multitude of complexity - as an

Re: [gentoo-dev] headless herds

2009-03-22 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:55:38 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > These herds have no members: > ... < > live-cd: > app-admin/pwgen > app-arch/pbzip2 > app-misc/livecd-tools > dev-python/pyparted > dev-util/catalyst > media-gfx/splash-themes-livecd > sys-apps/ddcxinfo-knoppix > sys-apps/gli > sys-apps/hwda

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:11:02 +0400 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 22:41 +0200, Timothy Redaelli пишет: > > i think it's better to develop an "emerge --info package" > > It already exists. But regretfully it does not provide useful output > even about the package's USE flags so I susp

Re: versionator.eclass terminator, was [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:16:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Why do you think I wrote the awful hack that is versionator? Why don't you explain why, historically, you put that in the tree? It would help us now if you were to simply record your mistakes for everybody else to easily avoid. It's sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-05-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:45:18 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:26:25 + (UTC) > Mark Bateman wrote: > > NOT once within GLEP55 [...] > Not once has there been an equally good alternative proposed. None needed, seems to be the major voice. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-05-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:54:40 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > None needed, seems to be the major voice. > > So it's your opinion that Gentoo should go with an in every way > inferior solution that doesn't solve the problem as well? I was merely overstating the obvious. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Versioned use flags and preferencing (eg. qt3 / qt4 on same package)

2009-06-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:48:03 +0100 AllenJB wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274197 > > The above bug brings up 2 issues: > > First, hplip says one thing, but does another with qt3 and qt4 > use-based dependencies. This is obviously a bug that needs to be > fixed. > > As a user,

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-25 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:50:22 +1200 Alistair Bush wrote: > I would believe that recent history would show the opposite. There > seem to be a group of developers at which the mere mention of ciaranm > results in setting them off. Regardless of the technical merits of a > solution they seem more i

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0700 Ned Ludd wrote: >huge fscking snip< Thank you. You were top of my list and I am counting on you. :) Regards, jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python

2012-02-29 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:38:22 +0100 Krzysztof Pawlik wrote: > On 29/02/12 08:49, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > This is awesome! Compare that to over 3000 LOC of python.eclass. :) > > Count distutils.eclass too: > > $ wc -l python-distutils-ng.eclass python.eclass distutils.eclass >364 pytho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ruby keywording

2012-03-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:17:34 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote: > There are tons of circular deps with USE="test" [...] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398853 jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds

2012-03-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 17:36:05 -0500 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > FYI, any Russian speaker is *guaranteed* to read the name ".eb" as a > very common obscenity. In Dutch it means the low tide, and as a verb, it means "becoming low" or "decreasing" as in the tide or some other fluid. In English it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds

2012-03-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:14:58 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Having a different, special rule for something that looks exactly like > lots of other things that do not have that different, special rule is > hardly hair splitting. This rule would have to be documented and have > special code to caref

Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]

2012-03-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:22:26 -0400 Joshua Kinard wrote: > On a somewhat sarcastic note, why don't we just deprecate /usr and > move everything back to /? Isn't that, largely, what is being > accomplished here? Solaris at least keeps some kernel stuff in / off > of /stand (I believe). Linux, afte

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New irc data field in layman's repositories.xml file format

2012-03-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:33:28 -0700 Brian Dolbec wrote: > The proper form of an irc url is in my example > "irc://irc.gentoo.org/gentoo-guis" and I took it from gentoo's irc > channel page at http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/irc.xml . Exactly. Most web browsers would know what to do with that, too.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!

2012-03-14 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:58:26 -0500 Matthew Summers wrote: > __Everyone__ is already using an initramfs, therefore there are no > initramfs-less systems anymore (it may just be empty). I happen to understand you're not attempting to start a flame war here, but it may not obvious to everyone.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:59:00 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > I wouldn't care if it weren't the fact your gentoo dev posts > > generally consist of "xyz is stupid, as is the people behind it" > > whether it be portage, udev, council, etc, take your pick. > > No, what I actually say is *why* th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-04-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:04:11 +0100 Steven J Long wrote: > Yes, it is hard to admit one has problems; how are things going with > your human interaction problems? (They don't seem to be going that > well, given your continued attitude.) I mean, you have admitted to > yourself that you do have issu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About adding a way to check for bugs referring to no longer existing packages in the tree

2012-04-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 11:55:04 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > Well, I currently manually do eix searching to check it, maybe would > be a way to compare eix outputs with "${CATEGORY}/${PKGNAME}" from bug > summaries (bugs without that naming structure would be uncovered by > this, but we would still be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: several obsolete ruby-gnome2 components

2012-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 19:53:06 +0200 Hans de Graaff wrote: > # Hans de Graaff (17 Apr 2012) You need to set ECHANGELOG_USER and then browse the tree to fix your ChangeLog entries. Cheers, jer PS: I've seen this more and more the last few months. What's going on?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making user patches globally available

2012-04-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:35:40 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > Funtoo has support for FEATURES=localpatch, which does the epatch_user > thing before src_prepare. I think it should really go after > src_prepare, in order to apply patches after those that src_prepare > may apply (avoiding possible conflict

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-04-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:04:08 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > Arg, no. Please just print the warning if the host doesn't do SSE2. > There's no reason to have a USE flag here (and _really_ no reason to > make it fatal) I entirely agree there. :) > , especially for an instruction set that every system h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: epatch_user usage

2012-05-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:06:08 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 04/25/2012 09:45 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > Could we detect user patches touching autoconf files somehow, maybe > > by hashing them beforehand > > There's an implementation of that inside autotools-utils_src_prepare. There's all kinds of

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for (libre)office extensions: office-ext?

2012-05-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 6 May 2012 18:06:35 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > I've collected information and the extensions (should) work with any > office variant, openoffice and libreoffice. To be more precise, they > should work with anything that uses the so-called "uno bridge". uno-plugins/* jer

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