Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] crap use flags in the profiles

2005-08-31 Thread Grant Goodyear
ot;That sounds like a good idea in principle, but, gosh, it sounds awfully hard!" Perhaps this discussion might actually go somewhere useful if people could be pointed to how one makes this sort of thing work in practice? I'm more than happy to read the fine manual, once I know which on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-core] crap use flags in the profiles

2005-08-31 Thread Grant Goodyear
but that for cases such as valgrind pre-3.0, which didn't work at all on amd64, then those package are profile-masked, and there's separate amd64 and x86 profiles (as there are now) to handle those distinctions? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.

[gentoo-dev] Election results

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
ow shortly. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 - confirmation 294d - Stuart bonsaikitten kugelfang mcummings Koon seemant lcars tigger Weeve KingTaco azara

[gentoo-dev] council meetings

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
hopes for this new Council, but of course it's up to you folks to make of it what you will. Personally, I expect great things. Best, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgppmuf99dRXQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
rejecting GLEPs, perhaps someone should be writing a GLEP about combining x86 and amd64? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpOrAAoHhL3q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] council meetings

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Thu Sep 01 2005, 11:50:56AM CDT] > We needed to have the new metastructure plan someplace easy to find, so > I created glep 39 for it. It's in CVS, but it may be a bit before it shows up on www.g.o. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAI

Re: [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
all of our devs, by the way). I'll happily leave writing such a GLEP to the people who actually are experts in this area, trusting them to properly educate the rest of us about exactly how it could work, and _then_ people can really make an informed decision. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

Re: [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
such a GLEP, I'm certainly willing to drop it. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpT7K0wVex6k.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
e to ask people what I do for a living, and whether they suspect that I know the difference between a 64-bit pointer and a 32-bit int. Best, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 715

[gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-04 Thread Grant Goodyear
them my way so that I may incorporate them. Best, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 GLEP: 40 Title: Standardizing "arch" keywording across all archs. Version: $R

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-04 Thread Grant Goodyear
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Sun Sep 04 2005, 01:41:41PM CDT] > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 09:37:11 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | There will be a considerable one-time cost involved in establishing a > | robust x86 arch team. > > Justify this please. If there i

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-04 Thread Grant Goodyear
ree, who (in my opinion) should have the final "okay" on a package going stable, since they're the ones with experience of the entire stable tree. Does that make a bit more sense? -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fin

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-04 Thread Grant Goodyear
importance of package maintainers, but simply to separate package maintainance from tree maintainance. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpG5yTpUWIv1.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] GLEP: Standardizing "arch" keywording across all archs

2005-09-08 Thread Grant Goodyear
t I can fix the GLEP. I'd like to go ahead and push this GLEP to the council for a vote at the next meeting (which I assume will be sometime in the next twenty-two days). -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
the date of the next meeting could be posted by the previous meeting, since that would generally correspond to about a month lead.) > Added by Grant Goodyear : > glep40: Standardizing "arch" keywording across all archs Please feel free to argue this GLEP in my absence. I'm fu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
g broken encodings? He just has to break the legs of the offending devs -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpzVz0Jk7qi5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
roperly defined so that noone can > weasel out by invoking "it's always been like this" Oh, of course. I just don't agree that all GLEPs that involve QA should be put on hold until we improve QA, however. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
. Of course, I could be entirely mistaken, but I know that I'm not the only person who has this impression. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpjgJI8L4tcI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Tue Sep 13 2005, 11:40:43AM CDT] > I'm not sure that's entirely correct. I seem to remember at least one > devrel dev stating that when it comes to devs who violate technical > policies (not using repoman, repeatedly breaking sections of the tre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
volving the council? My suggestion: leave it up to base-system to choose a default, and if it differs from what's in the docs then it would be nice if they'd let the docs folks know. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Finger

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
GLEP 40 for an example. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpEJU0V4CDEQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 05:22:07PM CDT] > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Mon Oct 10 2005, 04:43:19PM CDT] > > Isn't the idea that someone writes out a draft GLEP and gets it > > discussed on -dev (and repeats said process until everyone is happy > > with the GLE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-10 Thread Grant Goodyear
e huge amounts of unhappiness... Yep, I'll certainly agree w/ that (except that it's GLEP 41, not 40, I believe). -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpAPFt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
eal. If the council chooses to address this issue I'm hardly going to complain, but I don't really think that it's worth their time. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpuQtKOU5ZVs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Scratching of GLEP22

2005-10-13 Thread Grant Goodyear
replacement would work. > Also because right now we're not following that scheme anyway right now... Which is fine, of course, since nothing is in the tree yet, but there will be real complaints if this stuff makes it into the tree w/o following that GLEP (or a new GLEP if it's approv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
raries, and setting up Ubuntu or Debian for one of our project developers was a pain as I struggled to ensure that I had all of the necessary development packages installed. At the same time, I'm suppose that including header files by default is not such a good thing for the embedded folks. -g2boojum-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
y job. I don't run into this problem solely because I don't install binary packages. My apologies if I'm missing the point here. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp7Y17lJ74cw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for packages without a homepage?

2005-10-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
e something to click on who use packages.g.o. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpAyVt1md52l.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] quixote currently unmaintained

2005-10-31 Thread Grant Goodyear
rsions from bugzilla. Best, g2boojum -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgp8J2OwJtfAY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
this issue was never ignored, but it often wasn't at the top of the list for what our limited portage devs should be working on: see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11359#c83 .) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Finge

Re: [gentoo-dev] quixote currently unmaintained

2005-11-01 Thread Grant Goodyear
necessary, then I see no reason we shouldn't have those packages.) -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 pgpci6MNIfVNI.pgp Description: PGP signature

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