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Hi all,
Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The complete log
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=
betelgeuse here
cardoe
t; ./setup.py build --prefix=/usr
> }
>
> src_install() {
> ./setup.py install --root="${D}" --prefix=/usr
> }
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> + ;;
> +esac
> +
This eclass needs to do the same thing as the other eclasses that got
EAPI=2 patches and default EAPI to 0 when it's not defined, everywhere
where it tests the value of EAPI.
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On 20:49 Sun 02 Nov , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 00:08 Mon 03 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote:
> > +case "${EAPI}" in
> > + 2)
> > + EXPORT_FUNCTIONS src_unpack src_prepare src_configure
> > src_compile src_install
> > + ;;
reply to this email. This is the only way to guarantee they will be
considered for the agenda.
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On 18:34 Sun 09 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote:
> "I've been told" that .la files are really only needed on non-ELF
> systems and with plugin systems that use dlopen.
And for people who want to build things statically.
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On 13:56 Mon 10 Nov , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 05:30 Sat 01 Nov , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
> > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
> > Gentoo dev list to see.
>
he one requiring
minimal effort on the wrangler's part.
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On 17:24 Wed 12 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > And for people who want to build things statically.
>
> That's true, but we generally don't want to do that, so that's fine.
> If needed for a package, w
ore ebuilds if we want to globally
avoid libtool archives.
Have a FEATURES flag that is not on by default but is enabled by the
developer profile, and I bet you'd find whatever needs a RESTRICT that
we don't already know about pretty quick.
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rivate field).
Perhaps writing a .la to .pc converter would be a worthwhile endeavor.
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On 11:27 Mon 17 Nov , Doug Goldstein wrote:
> dev-util/cvs2svn
>
> If anyone wants it, please have at it. I haven't used it in 2 years.
This is the tool I've been using for git conversions, FWIW, so I'll
maintain it as long as it's relevant there.
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nces of $S, $D etc.
> LANG=C emake -j1 || die "emake failed"
Worth a comment about parallel make being broken, with a reference to
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me, interactive
collaboration. You can't have a rapid back-and-forth by email, because
everyone checks their email at most once per minute and generally far
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On 09:42 Wed 26 Nov , Peter Alfredsen wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 November 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > # Make selecting components configurable.
> > > epatch ${WORKDIR}/${MY_P}-configurable.diff
> >
> > This seems like something you might want optiona
whether a
> > > > certain item is in a list.
> > >
> > > I disagree.
> >
> > You do? Why do you think it's better than 'has'?
>
> Did I say that? I said that I disagree that it's a really strange
> strategy.
Consider "
the council should do? How about what
Gentoo should do? How would you make it happen?
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't heard of it before, thanks for the ref. What was the reason for
forking the codebase? It gets pretty annoying to copy across useful
changes, especially while eselect is stuck in svn.
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On 14:46 Sun 07 Dec , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:44:40 -0800
> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I hadn't heard of it before, thanks for the ref. What was the reason
> > for forking the codebase? It gets pretty annoying to c
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fl /usr/portage/eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass
export CFLAGS=$(test-flags-CC ${CFLAGS})
export CXXFLAGS=$(test-flags-CXX ${CXXFLAGS})
export FFLAGS=$(test-flags-F77 ${FFLAGS})
export FCFLAGS=$(test-flags-FC ${FCFLAGS})
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ps what you
really wanted was a way to save the resume list across multiple emerges?
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> src_install() {
> mv "${DISTDIR}/${P}.perl" ${PN}
> dobin ${PN}
You probably want to die if these fail.
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On 23:35 Tue 09 Dec , Federico Ferri wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > As I mentioned on IRC, I think this isn't a very general use case
> > (given the existence of --resume, --keep-going, etc.) so code to
> > accomplish it
>
> the point was not resuming m
y to improve the situation.
Based on the rarity of me seeing this reported as a problem, I'm
inclined to think it says more about this user than about our system. I
don't think it's our responsibility to put documentation everywhere
someone might conceivably look for information.
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I'd rather say people need to figure out common sense so we don't need
to document hundreds of pages of every tiny detail. It seems like the
vast majority of people don't have a problem with figuring this stuff
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ioned a few pros from the maintainer side,
the arch team ones are pretty easy to come up with.
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it's not "official" it says gentoo and people will associate it with
their Gentoo experience regardless of whether we host it.
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tional to
its popularity. Try a specialized topic outside of computers, and there
may well be errors that only an expert will catch -- others will just be
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These things, plus updates on the bugs council@ is CC'd on, will compose
our agenda.
FWIW, I'm fine with all 3 of the above.
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trictions -- for
example, I may be willing to have xorg-server 1.5.x go stable but not
1.4.x.
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s additional dependency on
> app-text/dictd package (to compress dictionary data dictzip program is
> required).
Is that some huge package that takes an unreasonable amount of time to
build or space to install? If not, this doesn't seem like a very
meaningful choice to me.
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(This could be another false person, or a separate ballot or something.)
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ing one
is using Gentoo to learn, so they should be doing everything by hand
instead of having an opportunity to skip the handbook.
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On 15:23 Wed 14 Jan , Ben de Groot wrote:
> Also, will we have an announcement on the www.gentoo.org frontpage? This
> seems to me an important enough issue to inform our users about.
Yeah, I'll get something up. I've got a few pending now.
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PV%_pre*}" != "${PV}" ]]
> then
> GO_MONO_P="${P%_pre*}"
> SRC_URI="${PRE_URI}/${PN}/${GO_MONO_P} -> ${P}.tar.bz2"
> S="${WORKDIR}/${GO_MONO_P}"
> else
> GO_MONO_P=${P}
> SRC_URI="http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/sources/${PN}/${P}.tar.bz2";
> fi
How about GO_MONO_P=${P%_[a-z]*} -- doesn't that work in all cases?
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mountpoints.
How about using the version in /etc/gentoo-release?
comet $ cat /etc/gentoo-release
Gentoo Base System release 2.0.0
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${D}"/usr/share/doc/${PF}
> if use doc; then
> rm -fr "${D}/usr/share/doc/${PF}/latex"
> cp -rf "${S}/pictures" "${D}/usr/share/doc/${PF}"
> fi
Does this need a prepalldocs or does that happen automatically? I'm not
on a Gentoo system atm to check.
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p, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
for you.
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On 15:35 Wed 21 Jan , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
>
> If you're su
On 07:23 Thu 08 Jan , Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have additional topics for the Jan 22 meeting?
>
> Could you cover the PMS/documentation issue of bug 250077? Or, if you
> prefer to generalise
makes it hard for other projects relying on Gentoo to do some
> things without being able to *know* what version of bash is allowed.
Which projects relying on Gentoo are having a hard time? It's helpful to
know the impact of a problem when deciding what to do about it.
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> if ( use double-precision && use single-precision ); then
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t of the build path of bash, things
ought to work. Then we could add a repoman check for new features, if we
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On 17:02 Thu 22 Jan , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:56:23 -0800
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Can this be fixed by adding bash dependencies to things using new
> > features? As long as we keep them out of the build path of bash,
> > things ought to w
On 18:23 Thu 22 Jan , Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Discuss on-list before meeting
> > ---
> > - Council meta stuff (-council)
> > - Can the size change? Minimum? Maximum?
> > - Should we have 2-
tp://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_930f58fcebcbbcbe523c001f2c825179.xml";
I haven't finished & posted last month's summary
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/20081211-summary.txt> yet because of a
long holiday vacation and lots of work deadlines after returning. I'll
lose a few PR
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ss toolchain.eclass
^^^
> Log:
> fix typo in libtool script munging pointed out by Dmitry Karasik #256636
> - chown -R root:0 *
> + chown -R root:0 * >& /dev/null
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sponse
time. These generally get batched and done at extended intervals.
4. If it is a user support request, no estimated response time.
Occasionally someone will respond to say that we don't do support at pr@
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ystem-config-users
dev-libs/alchemist
dev-python/pycups
dev-python/pyxf86config
dev-python/rhpl
dev-python/rhpxl
net-dns/bind-dns-keygen
sys-apps/hwdata-redhat
sys-apps/kudzu
sys-apps/usermode
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o hear from you! Have you seen the 'docache' kernel parameter? It
used to stick the LiveCD into RAM -- I haven't used it lately but I
assume it's still around. I'd think it would be straightforward to apply
the same feature to an installed Gentoo sys
On 23:35 Sat 31 Jan , Alec Warner wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Donnie Berkholz
> wrote:
> > Yes, it would be a good idea to put expectations wherever people find
> > our contact info. Here's roughly what they are:
One other thing. Media requests w
to finally starting moving step-by-step the GPE suite into the
> portage tree - starting with the eclass and toplevel categories.
What are the stats on package count per category?
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On 11:24 Tue 03 Feb , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > We currently provide an eclass and ebuilds arranged by top level
> > categories following upstream categorization. Explicitly gpe.eclass and
> > top level gpe-base gpe-net gpe-pim gpe-games gpe-utils gpe-media
> > gpe-
gt; +EBZR_DIFF_CMD="bzr diff"
> + ${EBZR_DIFF_CMD} | diffstat
Why does this need to happen? Please add a comment.
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..@web.de : 2008-07-31 00:41:39
---
Created an attachment (id=161784)
Replacement for the current eselect completion script
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reak much else that's yet undiscovered.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259491
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t must be
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On 23:26 Sun 22 Feb , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th
> Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
> irc.freenode.net) !
>
> If you have something you'd wish for us to cha
On 23:12 Tue 24 Feb , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Here's the preliminary agenda. I'm running a bit behind on -dev, so
> it's a little out of date re GLEPs 54/55. People including lu_zero,
> cardoe, dev-zero, and tanderson should fill us in on things below that
> t
On 11:19 Thu 26 Feb , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 23:12 Tue 24 Feb , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > GLEP 54: handling code from SCMs better
> > ---
> >
> > Some discussion on list. Luca, can you sum up the state of things?
>
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}" -type f -not -name '*.so' | while read f ; do
> if file "${f}" | grep -q -i " text" ; then
> if grep -q "${D}" "${f}" ; then ewarn "QA: File contains a temporary path
> ${f}" ; fi
>
On 19:18 Mon 02 Mar , Alistair Bush wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>> Combine this with package.mask. To me, experimental means masked.
>
> Experimental within java means a lot of things, or at least it should.
> Anything from user contributed and non-dev qa'd t
s?
> >
> > Ulrich
> >
> >
> Correct. Assuming the user has an EAPI=1 capable package manager, which at
> this point in time they really should.
If they don't, then they won't be able to install emacs anyway since all
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case of concern is packages that have an optional perl module always
pulling in dev-lang/perl. This would apparently be relevant on an
embedded system that lacked perl but required a package with an optional
perl module. To handle that miniscule use case, I'd tend to go with a
conditional var
mpgen -G '*.tbz2' -G '*.tar.bz2' -o plusdirs -- "$rhs" ;;
55(*) compgen -o bashdefault -- "$rhs" ;; # punt
56esac) )
Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have
issues with 4.0 ... might want to just run through those.
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[ 10b5] isnanl.c
[ 10be] -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2
[ 10d2] -auxbase-strip isnanl.o
Thoughts? Could we do something useful with this?
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On 01:27 Tue 03 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 02 March 2009 22:56:27 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have
> > issues with 4.0 ... might want to just run through those.
>
> i dont use bash completi
On 23:54 Mon 02 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 01:27 Tue 03 Mar , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Monday 02 March 2009 22:56:27 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > Actually seems like quite a few of the bash-completion scripts have
> > > issues with 4.0 ... might wan
, or rephrased - how to get more done in the limited time we
> > have.
>
> Something like what Debian does where a central service monitors
> upstream ftp and notifies you when a bump is available.
pythonhead wrote meatoo a while back, it can do this kind of thing. It
could probably
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nuts. Doesn't hurt me, I've already got many eclasses in overlays ...
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fter you try it.
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--- /home/donnie/src/gentoo-x86/eclass/x-modular.eclass 2009-03-06
12:11:38.0 -0800
+++ x-modular.eclass2009-03-06 12:16:25.0 -0800
@@ -26,6 +26,21 @@
On 12:57 Fri 06 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> I decided to try something a little different because I had some ideas
> for improving the existing EAPI patches I've seen going into other
> eclasses. So here is my patch for x-modular.eclass. I tested it with
> ebuilds using
tiple sets of arguments
(alternately, making custom, similar functions that will take multiple
args). Combined with the addition of src_configure() in EAPI=2, the
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On 16:48 Sun 08 Mar , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:42:29 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > - I understand the reasoning for the SRC_CONFIGURE_WITH blah stuff. I
> > strongly oppose this implementation because it makes ebuilds less
> > like bash
On 10:01 Sun 08 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 16:48 Sun 08 Mar , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:42:29 -0700
> > Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > - I understand the reasoning for the SRC_CONFIGURE_WITH blah stuff. I
> > > strongly oppo
On 19:35 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 11:24 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
> > On 10:01 Sun 08 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > On 16:48 Sun 08 Mar , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:42:29 -0700
On 19:27 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 10:01 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
> > It would just eliminate all but one call to use_with(). Depending on how
> > many you've got, this can shorten things up a fair bit. Here's an
> &
ists only for legacy reasons. Few
> packages use it anyway.
I did a quick check to look at the data supporting your point and found
120 packages using it. I guess that qualifies as "few" when compared to
the whole tree.
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ld directly resemble how software is built by hand.
One of the key reasons people use Gentoo is that ebuilds are so easy to
"get" for anyone who has ever built software by hand. I will continue to
vehemently defend anything that I think retains this key advantage of
Gentoo over o
On 21:22 Sun 08 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
> > Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The syntax
> > you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to the one using
> > vars. And looki
think we should do here? I looked over the
discussion on -dev and it wasn't entirely clear to me what needed to
happen next.
Mart, perhaps you could fill us in -- do you need to respond to some of
the open questions?
Other than that, I didn't see any requests on t
all over the place.
> * Calling unpack on an unrecognised extension should be fatal, unless
> --if-compressed is specified. The default src_unpack needs to use
> this.
Why?
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On 22:53 Mon 09 Mar , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:39:41 -0700
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > * Calling unpack on an unrecognised extension should be fatal,
> > > unless --if-compressed is specified. The default src_unpack needs
> &g
ift
> + epatch "${dir:+${dir}/}$*"
> + done
> +}
> +
Very cool! How about adding this to a default src_prepare() for EAPI=2?
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alking time. It's
very hard to overwhelm anyone with text.
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7;s much like a technique
that militaries use during wars to de-personalize the enemy, except with
the Internet, we start that way and have to apply effort to grow closer.
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gs you'd do differently
> either through these mailing lists or in freenode/#gentoo-kde
> so I can make future revisions better and more useful!
Cool! How did you make these? Can you make them with Catalyst?
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C. This is
> bad.
I can't agree with your assertion that IRC is secretive, is a problem or
is bad. I think completely the opposite in all cases. Secretive would be
a closed IRC network that we didn't tell non-developers about or didn't
allow them to join.
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On 19:56 Fri 13 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz said:
> > On 19:06 Wed 11 Mar , Thilo Bangert wrote:
> > > > > the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be
> > > > > available via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gento
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