[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changing default serial-console definition in inittab

2012-04-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
tinderbox host, and an HP for work – both have the default IPMI configuration for Serial-over-LAN set at 115200, and the HP also had VT-UTF8 by default for emulation (SuperMicro defaulted to vt100 but still allows utf8). Comments? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flam

[gentoo-dev] Orphaned packages

2012-06-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ove me from metadata so I have less work to do ;) Thanks! -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-ftp/netkit-tftp

2012-07-08 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
d replace it in all ways. So it'll be removed next month if there are no reasons to keep it around. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] More packages looking for new maintainers

2012-07-08 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
e to try keeping it up to date in this situation.] dev-util/gdbserver [This should be just removed as gdb now has an USE flag for it] mail-client/nail + media-video/subtitleeditor + net-analyzer/squidview + net-libs/liboauth net-misc/bti + net-misc/gogoc + sys-power/apcupsd + -- Diego Elio P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-ftp/netkit-tftp

2012-07-08 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ointed out that there _are_ cases where hpa doesn't work but netkit does, so I've downgraded the removal to a simple masking for bad code. I guess we'll wait a bit more before removing this, in the mean time though I don't really feel happy with leaving it unmasked so it'll

[gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-08 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
just fine. Let me know if anyone has doubts about the validity of doing this by default. Thanks, -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-ftp/netkit-tftp

2012-07-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > I thought it has a replacement, if not, ok to keep It has a replacement for probably 95% of its users; hopefully Robin and Anthony can figure out why those 5% (random number of course) is not able to use tftp-hpa; once we do that it should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 10/07/2012 18:44, James Cloos ha scritto: > I'm embarrased to have to say that I hadn't noticed that gentoo lacked power > lines in its inittab(5). They _are_ deprecated after all. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ds package anymore Sounds good to me — the hwids package itself should be easy to deal with, and it solves the whole issue of depending on the "big" packages. Although I also have a replacement of mine (mini-hwdata) when the hwids themselves are overkill. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flam

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ings _will_ break. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Tinderbox will help you there. On Thursday, July 12, 2012, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > Il 11/07/2012 21:11, William Hubbs ha scritto: > > > I am about to release udev-186-r1, which will move everything curre

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-12 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
> DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all. > > Where is that documented? man inittab

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
rce code of the sysvinit package for more documentation about this. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion

2012-07-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 22/07/2012 01:33, Alexey Shvetsov ha scritto: > May be sys-firmware? =) If we make sys-firmware we might want to move the various Intel, Ralink and AMD firmware blobs there as well. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion

2012-07-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
he tree, as then I know what to expect out of sys-firmware failures... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion

2012-07-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 22/07/2012 06:47, Maxim Kammerer ha scritto: > eix -cI 'microcode-|-ucode|-firmware' The problem is not finding them, is knowing what's going on when a given package name is merged. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting ignored *FLAGS

2012-07-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
rong we can > add it for supported arches). Ehm no that's not a good idea because it can actually cause problems. Some ebuilds do s/-O2/${CFLAGS} s/gcc/$(tc-getCC)/ (in this order) and then -frecord-gcc-switches will fail. Other packages call ld directly, and then -frecord-gcc-switches in LDFL

Re: [gentoo-dev] ROMs category suggestion

2012-07-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 22/07/2012 07:22, Maxim Kammerer ha scritto: > just pointing out that there is not much information gained in the > package name, Trust me it usually helps more than a little bit to have a common category for them. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting ignored *FLAGS

2012-07-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
(I think we have one?) via bashrc, then we should have something. If something breaks on a dev box, I'd say the best effort can be made to fix it. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/quagga needs help

2012-07-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
with. I agree with you, I'd rather run bird. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 23/07/2012 17:07, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto ha scritto: > from /etc to /etc/postfix. Are you really sure? I don't think Portage looks for it there ... ;) -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
bals was going to be installed in /usr/share/portage nowadays? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting ignored *FLAGS

2012-07-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 26/07/2012 23:51, Michał Górny ha scritto: > You are looking for QA_FLAGS_IGNORED. Actually I'd say QA_PREBUILT. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-07-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
r we go with an UTF-8 default or somebody has to fix the packages not working without it -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
hrough the use of cluebyfour on the Python team or by setting an utf-8 locale by default? Not in the least. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-08-03 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Agreed. And there _is_ a way to tell which locales are available: `locale -a`. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] force verbose build log as per PMS policy?

2012-08-03 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 03/08/2012 16:18, hasufell wrote: > So that would simply mean we add that information to the devmanual? > > Should I open a bug with a devmanual patch then? Please do. QA will back the request for verbose logs by default. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-fs/udev: udev-187-r1.ebuild udev-9999.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-08-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
7;s about having spaces in there, not the syntax error. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
has to change for each ebuild because there is one extra number that is used... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
just saying why we shouldn't abandon it as Gilles proposed. FWIW for the rest it feels right to me. Although this starts to add up to the reasons why at least metadata.xml should be validated by schema, and not DTD. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
emacs's nxml. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ff that can be installed in /usr/lib, can't you just add udev and udisks to that list? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
#x27;s the usual difference between trying to be right and being pragmatic about it. You (and Kay) want to be right ignoring the fact that $tons of software expects /usr/lib to just be another $libdir. I'd rather be pragmatic and choose /usr/libexec which _clearly_ isn't. -- Diego Elio

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
or this to go through council as _it already went through it once_ -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: multilib-strict no longer in FEATURES of targets/developer/make.defaults (pending on bug 424423)

2012-08-14 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ecutables_, which means they are not loaded in the same address space of any other program. I'm just concerned of having another hundred directories in /usr/lib as that could slow down ld.so... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils 1/2] Add dointo && newinto.

2012-08-16 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
s be different now? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils 1/2] Add dointo && newinto.

2012-08-16 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
y. So my 2 cents here keep saying "no". -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-08-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
st the kind of behaviour that makes Gentoo look professional... no wait I meant the other way around I guess. Because the automake 1.12 breakage is not enough to have in tree, hm? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-08-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > there's a trivial patch needed to make 1.49 work. forcing people to use 1.50 > is purely the boost's maintainers choice. [...] > there's a trivial patch long been available that you've refused to merge. so > any errors here are of your

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-08-17 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Tiziano Müller wrote: > I'm already working on some of the boost-1.49/50 breakages and 1.51 is > already in the pipeline, so 1.50 has to leave p.mask in a month or so > anyway. Thanks, at least somebody's doing something to help. By the way I forgot to say in my

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-08-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > yes, the patch here is trivial. it removes 1 line of unused code and has > fixed > a lot of other packages. deflecting the argument to a flawed system of your > own > creation doesn't change it. if you're worried about gnutls breakage,

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-08-19 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
-1.50 FWIW GnuTLS 3.1 is perfectly fine to go into ~arch IMHO as I've been using it for a while and most of the bugs are only present on gnutls USE flag turned on (and not for all SSL support). -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.as

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC network provides revisited

2012-08-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/08/2012 12:58, William Hubbs wrote: > This user is running with pre-configured interfaces (root is nfs > mounted). The network interface configuration should not be touched by > openrc. That would be nice for LCX as well, just so you know. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameey

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC network provides revisited

2012-08-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/08/2012 20:57, William Hubbs wrote: > in your /etc/conf.d/sshd file. Looks good.. most people who have especially complex configurations would already be doing this. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: Open

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] new vala.eclass

2012-08-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25/08/2012 10:25, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >> > if ! [[ -d "${T}/pkgconfig" ]]; then >> > mkdir "${T}/pkgconfig" || die "mkdir failed" >> > fi > Same as above Even better use mkdir -p. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] prune_libtool_files: run pkg-config code only if necessary.

2012-08-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
peek to ruby-ng_rspec to have an idea how to implement that kind of warning. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] prune_libtool_files: run pkg-config code only if necessary.

2012-08-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
on-obvious requirements. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-crypt/gpa: gpa-0.9.3.ebuild ChangeLog gpa-0.9.1_pre20100416-r1.ebuild

2012-08-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 27/08/2012 00:18, Samuli Suominen wrote: > why leave the ebuild read $myconf from global scope? $EXTRA_ECONF works > for this Because extremely simply I forgot to delete the line. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signatu

Re: [gentoo-dev] supporting static-libs

2012-08-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
y on this? Isn't this actually a bug? I honestly don't usually put static-libs "just because" — if a case can be made about static libs to be useful, I'm always open to add an USE flag, but "because I can" is not an option for me. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] supporting static-libs

2012-08-28 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Now on a different note, this is not even what USE=static is for — but that's way behind what we were discussing before. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] adns & ares USE flags

2012-08-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
like ssl: if only one is supported you call "adns" — if more than one, you put adns in front, and then get the non-preferred one and you give it an extra USE. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency

2012-08-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
7;s not necessary to run a system, let alone a POSIX system. > Also, some people are probably going to try to get some pkgconf support > directly into gcc, in form of '-something libfoo' to make it grab > everything magically, I think. You have a future as a comedian.

Re: [gentoo-dev] prune_libtool_files() and pkg-config dependency

2012-08-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
opers actually relying on it? I find it very hard, as that basically means you're introducing build systems that only ever work on a theoretical GCC 4.8 _and nothing else_. So can you see what makes me laugh in your statement? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] stripping escape sequences from build logs

2012-09-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
oo/tboxanalysis -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies

2012-09-15 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 15/09/2012 18:20, Brian Harring wrote: > Herds, if you want to see what your pkgs would look like, look at > http://dev.gentoo.org/~ferringb/unified-dependencies-example/herds/ . Ruby team could make use of a dep:test and automatic conversion of that :P -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Fla

Re: [gentoo-dev] making USE=upnp a global flag

2012-09-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
you have the feature _advertised_ as DLNA, not as UPnP! -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] A more natural (human-friendly) syntax for dependencies

2012-09-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 22/09/2012 09:35, Ben de Groot wrote: >> > Please try not fix/break what is not broken. > +1 Same here. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-22 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
x-x86-opengl. If that's the case, please consider a more broad strategy, in particular: - unforce the multilib flag for the packages that are _built_ for multilib; - make 32-bit binary packages depend amd64? ( whatever[multilib] ) instead of blanketing all xlibs. -- Diego Elio Pett

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
oject to get rid of /all/ of the emul- packages, but I agree that > that is a worthwhile goal. Mostly I don't want to have to build Xaw in both variants given I use neither.. but that would happen if you just made the emul depend on the packages that are converted... -- Diego Elio Pett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
same mess again, as we have with as-is.) Thanks! I guess for me it's time to go fix all the ruby packages that have LICENSE="as-is" # really :P -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26/09/2012 15:57, Christoph Junghans wrote: > That sound like a plan. Maybe bzip2 should become a virtual as busybox > also provides an implementation. No, just, no. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] CIA replacement

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/10/2012 11:29, Rich Freeman wrote: > Where else would one discuss it? gentoo-scm Yes, there is a mailing list for that. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] CIA replacement

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
s and it's getting tiring. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] Discussing stuff that is not appropriate to discuss

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
her mail with "what other awesome thing we can do if we migrate to git and we don't even have to worry about what it might happen on the serverside because git is just magical and will sort itself out", okay? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussing stuff that is not appropriate to discuss

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
oxy servers, Rich starting to ponder between bandwidth and CPU, and you calling for shutdown dates, all without changing a stupid subject line to at least show you're no longer speaking about the original topic (it's not like people can be psychic that you're talking about GIT migr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussing stuff that is not appropriate to discuss

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/10/2012 15:21, Peter Stuge wrote: > Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >> With all due respect, > .. >> you calling for shutdown dates > .. > all without changing a stupid subject > line to at least show you're no longer speaking about the original topic > (it&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussing stuff that is not appropriate to discuss

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 01/10/2012 15:53, Peter Stuge wrote: >> > Then you probably don't know half the Gentoo developers > I think they are the ones who should fork. :) Unfortunately the problem is that they tend to linger around even after forking... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flame

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussing stuff that is not appropriate to discuss

2012-10-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
#x27;t be bothered by it unless they are actually reactive aggressively. I know the kind of thankless tasks Infra has to deal with on a daily basis, and I think they deserve more respect that most of the time they are given here, especially when technical challenges are billed under the "we

[gentoo-dev] Regarding the tinderbox logs

2012-10-03 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ges (caused by his own packages most of the time), because they smell. It does seem logical that I'm not going to rollback months of work just because one guy can't be bothered to play well with others, doesn't it? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages which won't support x32

2012-10-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ding three libcs, three libssl, two Qt (as right now) and I don't know many more duplicates... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages which won't support x32

2012-10-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
/tag/x32 . It's also interesting to note that Werner Koch of libgcrypt and gnupg fame is also not interested in supporting x32. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding the tinderbox logs

2012-10-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
remove your tinderbox links > from bugs/packages they don't maintain. Actually, that happened as well. Maybe you should actually review facts before posting sure that you know that's going on. Just saying. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH/RFC] eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass: prepend-ldpath

2012-10-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ou're trying to link to a libutil.a -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] esetshell in user.eclass

2012-10-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Anybody has a problem with adding an esetshell function to user.eclass ? I'd need it for munin... -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] libxul.so in gentoo

2012-10-21 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
t least a sharable libxul is extremely useful to distributions. But considering their stance on distributions in general I don't see that changing anytime soon. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
whatever you commit". -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
y consistent as long as projects like chromium > have a chance to test things out and catch issues before they hit the > tree. That is actually part of the job of a proxy maintainer. Agreed. At the same time, we should have learnt that Arfrever is unable to take up that job, given the repeat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
a reason why he's been kicked out, and I wasn't the only one taking that decision. Committing stuff for him, from him, without actually checking it, testing it, _owning_ it, is showing a lack of respect for the _whole_ project. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
v-libs/boost because then we are a > couple of libraries levels deep. Not sure how deep is enough with this > one. Are you sure about your numbers? My script shows 52, not 28 packages. Among others, your list does not show libreoffice-bin, which is what this time would have caused the most damag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
a =49* dep, for obvious reasons. Since there was no hurry of security issues to get icu-50 in, I don't see why this was all forced through -50_rc without giving time to the _one_ package that was using an older version to update. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-29 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:07:15 -0700 > Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > [...] >> d) call for a tinderbox run (I can do that with a quick email); > > For that part, I think everyone would benefit from an official >

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
sk GnuTLS 3.1 for basically the same reason. Upstream is moving on to new versions, we're behind one major and one minor right now. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=gnutls-3 -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 30/10/2012 08:21, Rich Freeman wrote: > That might warrant a news item. Sure, they're ~arch, but they're not > going to know about this unless somebody tells them. Is it just my impression or did you just volunteer? ;) -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@fla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.16 moving to ~arch

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
into it earlier today, I was waiting to hear from him as I don't want to go near Boost in the near future if I can avoid it. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ust install it and that's about it? Thanks, -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ith a new boost are not going to work anyway because boost.m4 will still get the latest one, and most of the old ones wouldn't work anyway because they are not compatible with the compiler/C library/whatever? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
eaking changes in the API. Because bundled libraries are bad. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
library_ we have in the tree, as Samuli and Alexis already said. And it'll follow the same policy. > #2 - anything requiring boost gets bumped to EAPI5 to get the > slot-operator benefits for rebuilds, I'm not sure if it's strictly needed but it's fine. -- Diego Elio

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 30/10/2012 13:10, Michał Górny wrote: > By inheriting boost-utils and using the correct function to use older > boost slot? Which will not work. Can you build boost-1.49 with glibc-2.16? NO! At least not without patching it by changing its API. So how do you propose to solve package A that do

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
to fix their crap because "oh I can just use the older version" (until a new compiler or C library comes out). I've had to do my share of porting to newer boost — and as I said most of the headaches have been for the build system to find the object, rather than anything el

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 30/10/2012 16:34, James Cloos wrote: > Since protage failed to preserve icu-49 for me, upon which boost > depends, I found that 1.48 and 1.49 build with gcc 4.7.2; but none > of the earlier versions did. And only 1.50+ will work with glibc-2.16. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameey

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 30/10/2012 17:42, Duncan wrote: > > icu-49.1.2 seems to build just fine against glibc-2.16.0, here. I just > rebuilt to be sure. (With gcc-4.7.2.) I said "1.50+", I'm referring to Boost. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
ackages using it; so does Tomáš — KDE and MySQL depend on it as well. Is there somebody else interested in the package? We might just want to take this over and restore some sanity. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
just have to stop. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer needed: dev-libs/icu

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
verlays but of a bump in the main tree which is not fixed. Really, I would like to ask you to step off of the discussion, you've proven yourself incapable to work within the constraint of the tree already a long time ago. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
x27;ll also run a tinderbox against 1.51, and will start to look into what has to be done to fix whatever is still incompatible with it to work, so that when glibc 2.16 gets out we can unmask this without breaking the 70% of the tree like an unmask of >=1.50-r2 would cause right now. -- Diego E

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Dropping slotted boost

2012-10-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
the headers, the sub-slots make it possible as well. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merging the devrel handbook into the devmanual

2012-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31/10/2012 05:39, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > > In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] > into the devmanual[3]. +1 it was on my TODO list for over two years at this point. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/boost: boost-1.46.1-r1.ebuild metadata.xml boost-1.49.0-r1.ebuild boost-1.51.0-r1.ebuild ChangeLog boost-1.47.0.ebuild boost-1.35.0-r2.e

2012-10-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
;s time that people who've been there before step up and fix it the way that it has to be fixed. (And yes, I haven't tested it _thoroughly_ unfortunately, because of the stupid testsuite that goes nowhere and so on ... but I made sure that an update on a stable system does not change links

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