Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Maintainer Timeout

2007-02-02 Thread Alec Warner
Timothy Redaelli wrote: > Hi, > I want to propose a "Maintainer Timeout" such as FreeBSD. > If a maintainer or herd does not fix (or assign/comment) a bug in a > reasonable amount of time (2 weeks? 3 month?) any developer can fix it > (or a pre established group of developers such as QA) > > Thank

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Summer of Code 2007

2007-02-19 Thread Alec Warner
> On Friday 16 February 2007 19:38, Grant Goodyear wrote: >> Rémi Cardona wrote: [Fri Feb 16 2007, 12:14:31PM CST] >> >> > To complement the both of you, how about proposing projects to 2 >> > students at the same time and have them work as a team? >> >> It's against the rules to have two students

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-01 Thread Alec Warner
> Simon Stelling wrote: >> That being said, I think this is really up to the releng team and noone >> else. They are doing the work, so we can discuss it far and wide, as >> long as releng doesn't want to do it, nothing will happen. So maybe we >> should wait for a statement from Chris before doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Alec Warner
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 02:12:48 -0700 "Daniel Robbins" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> Right now, you're effectively doing an end-run around the entire >> Gentoo management structure. Fortunately for you, it doesn't look like >> anyone cares. > > Not really. We're working on a document, as requested b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-12 Thread Alec Warner
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: > Hiya all, > > As some of you are already aware, I was at the last Council meeting > given a Task. This Task was to draft a proposed Code of Conduct for > Gentoo, and a scheme for enforcing it. The current version of this > proposal can be found at http://dev.gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo's problems

2007-03-14 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > * Portage. Gentoo hasn't delivered anything useful or cool for two > years or so. Things like layman are merely workarounds for severe > Portage limitations (not a criticism of layman). Delivery to end users > is based around what's possible with Portage, not what people

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-16 Thread Alec Warner
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 03:11 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400 >> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Hierarchy would be the following >>> >>> snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta >> And that's where the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Alec Warner
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 01:46:45PM +1100, Jonathan Adamczewski wrote: >> Paludis is a tool used for working with the Gentoo Portage tree - there >> is no problem with it being part of a Gentoo Google Summer of >> Code project as it will benefit the Gentoo project and its users. > > Why not simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-24 Thread Alec Warner
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> >> Assuming you mean piotr, who is not pioto... The difference is, piotr's >> proposal is possible and doable within the timeframe, whereas lu_zero's >> sounds nice if you don't know anything about any of the package >> managers in question and can't be delivered within

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cultural Differences (was: Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla)

2007-03-24 Thread Alec Warner
> > Sadly, this just goes to show how people need to be more careful in > their wording in a community like ours with people coming from so many > different cultures. Or maybe people need to lighten up a bit more, I > don't really know which. > > Anyone have any further suggestions how we as a comm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
> I'd like to ask what are the negative side-effects of adding such > paragraph. Are there any true negative side-effects to a specification > like that? > > A different topic is the way the paragraph is written. If we don't > like how it is written, we can change it and problem solved. > > To be h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
> Duncan wrote: >> A segment of an already minor segment (certainly currently, tho that >> /may/ eventually change), not likely to be something that can reasonably >> be characterized as benefiting Gentoo as a whole, at least in the near >> to >> medium term, and beyond that, well, things remain up

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:45:38 +0200 > arfrever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >> > I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still >> > uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. >> >> These not numerous packages

[gentoo-dev] Glep Authors

2007-03-26 Thread Alec Warner
If you are not a glep author; stop reading now. This message is to warn anyone trying to write a glep, there is a error the in the glep template. Bug 152313[1] was filed to address the issue and I fixed all the GLEPs currently in CVS (this should include all submitted GLEPs). If you want to auth

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-26 Thread Alec Warner
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:07:03 -0400 > Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ciaran has brought attention to a very important thing -- QA seems to >> take a backseat to a few things, and it is actually a little >> disturbing that it does. > > I believe the QA team expect developers to *ask*

[gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project,Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-26 Thread Alec Warner
First off, this is not a discussion on why XML sucks, or why we shouldn't be using XML or anything like that. This is not a discussion about what we should be using instead of XML. This is a discussion about using XML for our webpages. Many projects have old and nasty webpages. This has been a

Re: [gentoo-dev] {Guide,Project, Foo}XML too confusing for many devs?

2007-03-26 Thread Alec Warner
Thanks for all the replies (and the offers of help, very comforting). I will no longer accept the excuse of 'I can't write GuideXML' since we have an army of volunteers to GuideXMLify stuff for us :) As such, I don't need to learn (I know enough to get by, and with this glep index I'll soon know

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-29 Thread Alec Warner
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0530 > Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530 >> > Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo >> >> be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: SCM choices

2007-03-31 Thread Alec Warner
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Kevin F. Quinn wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:58:59 -0400 >> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Please, everyone, go back and read the actual *facts* that were >>> discovered using copies of *our* repositories before going arou

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-31 Thread Alec Warner
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:24:03 -0400 > Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> To make it more clear. If the gcc developers decided to stick some >> malicious code into gcc, it affects the entire linux community, the >> entire BSD community and would take out a few other communities as >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] /{"", usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-03-31 Thread Alec Warner
> Hello. > > Path of some utilities in coreutils-6.7-r1 changed from /usr/bin to /bin > and vice versa. This cause some scripts became broken as they relied on > the full path to executable. The question is: does there exist best > practice on how to avoid this problem in future? Should we set some

Re: [gentoo-dev] /{"", usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-04-01 Thread Alec Warner
> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:15:13 +0400 > Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 00:01 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: >> > One idea that comes to mind is /usr/bin/env $bin >> >> And here we return to the problem that one day /usr/bin/env, c

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-06 Thread Alec Warner
> So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop > has > migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which > no > longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? > > Anyone? My current projects include: block_sync glep:

Re: [gentoo-dev] where is config_protect implemented?

2007-04-06 Thread Alec Warner
> > Gentoo experts, > > > I am curious in finding the code that actually does config file > protection. I found some code in portage library, but it seems that it > only decides what the next backup file name should be, not doing > diffing, merging, etc. > > Is the protection code in some base ecla

[gentoo-dev] Tears of unfathomable sorrow

2007-04-06 Thread Alec Warner
Much to the joy of many I am now retiring from Gentoo. I've already done most of the work (sorry to burden you kloeri I think just the tree-bits are left). Many will wonder why; but this has been a while in coming. I don't get along with many like I used to and in many cases I don't find myself

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why don't you just ...

2007-04-10 Thread Alec Warner
Matthias Langer wrote: > > Well, I don't know what your problem really is about; I'm running x86, > and if something breaks on my system, it's mostly not because of broken > packages, but because I should have been informed about possible issues > that could have been caused by an upgrade, and how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] [RFC] New metastructure proposal

2007-04-11 Thread Alec Warner
Chris Gianelloni wrote: I think people are leaving because a lack of direction. I also agree here, but only to an extent. To quantify my earlier statement. There is no ability to say 'this is something Gentoo should dedicate resources to' vs. 'this is something that is outside the scope o

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: extending project xml to have stuff that the project is working on and collect them as Gentoo current goals

2007-04-11 Thread Alec Warner
Jan Kundrát wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: - extend the xml The difficulty is similar to creating Yet Another format for your page. - have everyone edit their own project pages It doesn't matter if you edit file A or file B, IMHO. - create some parser that has to troll all of the project

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * src_test always called except if RESTRICT=test I don't think this would fit into EAPI, to me it's an implementation detail of the package manager, or why should the ebuild care about it? It's the best way of ensuring that ebuilds have a working src_test. Arch teams nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:44:31 -0700 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any arch team that wants tests by default on their arch can just add test to FEATURES in their arch profiles; magically the users running that arch will get the tests run (with USE=test s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New Developer: Tobias Heinlein (keytoaster)

2007-04-14 Thread Alec Warner
Peter Weller wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:23:08 +0100 "Charlie Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 15/04/07, Tobias Heinlein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stefan Schweizer wrote: Yup, I'm 16, phreak was "shocked" as well. Welcome to the "young ones" :) w00t! You'll be joining me, master

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Alec Warner
As I see it most people have a couple of roads here: You want more information regarding the issue surrounding the suspension of Jakub or you have a problem with the manner in which the issue was handled/executed. You can reach devrel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and on their mailing list, [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Alec Warner
Larry Lines wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 08:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: >> As I see it most people have a couple of roads here: >> >> You want more information regarding the issue surrounding the suspension >> of Jakub or you have a problem with the manner in whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-21 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:00:55 +0200 > Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I do the same. The '$Header: $' tells me which version of a file in >>> the CVS tree I last synced to in my overlay, then I can just do a >>> cvs diff on the tree to get a patch of differen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-22 Thread Alec Warner
Steve Long wrote: > Danny van Dyk wrote: >>> In practice I find it's rare that a user has been hacking around in >>> the eclasses. All the SHA1 tells you is that it's not the most >>> recent, but it's not easy to determine from the SHA1 exactly which >>> version they do have (so it's not enough to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Alec Warner
Doug Goldstein wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>> In my original email, I also suggested this solution, but it seems >>> that nobody >>> read it: >>> ] Alternatively, follow the example of any ebuild that uses a dated >>> ] patchset, and just have the date of the patchse

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Alec Warner
As usual if you have issues with the council's decision, this is the wrong list to complain on. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED], I here they have popcorn. This is the right list to discuss versioning schemes though. -Alec -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.21 plans

2007-04-27 Thread Alec Warner
Petteri Räty wrote: > Daniel Drake kirjoitti: >> Petteri Räty wrote: >>> Why would the kernel have to go stable before the usual month dictated >>> by policy? Yes there are usually security bugs but you did not mention >>> that as a reason in your post. >> At last check this was a recommendation, n

Re: [gentoo-dev] tests

2007-05-01 Thread Alec Warner
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > There was some discussion about forcing/not forcing tests in EAPI-1, but > there > was clearly no compromise. Imho, tests are very important and thus I want to > discuss them a little more, but in more sensible fashion. > > Firstly each test can be(not all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: That time again...

2007-05-01 Thread Alec Warner
Michael Cummings wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 08:29:43PM +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: >> You are declared official Project Status Report Gathering Manager. > > I have to concede, I saw this last thursday and sat on it all weekend, mulling > it over. I realize you (most likely) meant it

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news items

2007-05-02 Thread Alec Warner
Stephen Bennett wrote: > Anyone have a reason why we can't start to put them in the tree? > Portage support is, I'm told, coming in a month or so, and other > package managers have supported glep42 for a while now. The format is > well specified by the GLEP, so compatibility shouldn't be an issue.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2007-05-04 Thread Alec Warner
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2007, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> I also don't agree with having an exception for the games herd. As >> others have questioned, how are games more important than security >> bumps? If we were considering exceptions, I would argue that allowing >> the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:44:46 +0200 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why did I knew that this argument would come? Maybe because it's your >> default reaction to any opposition. > > What, providing evidence to the contrary? What more do you want? > This is such

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [news-item] Paludis 0.24

2007-05-05 Thread Alec Warner
I picked a random mail to reply to: The paludis news item has been approved by me, cause I rock, and commited to the proper location. Assuming the code Zac wrote was actually tested and is turned on, the news item will hit the tree soon. Good Day Sirs. -Alec -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] [RFC - Moving categories around]

2007-05-08 Thread Alec Warner
oops, sent with wrong address the first time. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 8, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: [RFC - Moving categories around] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So a random thought I had was 'lets move categories out of gentoo-x8

Fwd: [gentoo-dev] Increasing contributions and interest via personal project aggregation

2007-05-11 Thread Alec Warner
I hate gmail -- Forwarded message -- From: Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 11, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Increasing contributions and interest via personal project aggregation To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org On 5/8/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/pybugz needs a maintainer

2007-05-12 Thread Alec Warner
On 5/12/07, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/12/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice utility, now unfortunately a bit orphaned and with lots of open > bugs. If you are interested, see http://tinyurl.com/2mkd7s > > Thanks. > > -- > Best

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2007-06-23 Thread Alec Warner
I vote no, because someone has to. -Alec PS: Thanks to be keeping the packages in the tree up to date. On 6/22/07, Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the council discussed/decided something about mailing lists in their last meeting, there doesn't seem to be a log/summary out tho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Ask for forgiveness, not permission. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge feature suggestions

2007-08-12 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/11/07, Rumi Szabolcs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello! > > I've got a couple of suggestions for emerge: > > 1.) I apparently cannot exclude one or two packages from a large > emerge action. For example if I say 'emerge -upv world' or > 'emerge -Dupv xorg-x11' it may pull in some large update

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge feature suggestions

2007-08-13 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/13/07, Nathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/12/07, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 8/11/07, Rumi Szabolcs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > I've got a couple of suggestions for emerge: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge feature suggestions

2007-08-15 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/15/07, Vaeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Alec Warner wrote: > > On 8/13/07, Nathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I suppose this comes down to weighing the utility of such a feature > > > against the amount of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-17 Thread Alec Warner
> > perhaps it'd be useful to introduce an "anal_die". developers run anal tests, > users get sane tests. > -mike > > Anal ftw -Alec -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-17 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/17/07, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 17 August 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 13:40 Fri 17 Aug , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Friday 17 August 2007, Hans de Graaff wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 18:43 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > > > > Also known a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

2007-08-17 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/17/07, Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > В Птн, 17/08/2007 в 13:18 -0700, Donnie Berkholz пишет: > > On 13:40 Fri 17 Aug , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Friday 17 August 2007, Hans de Graaff wrote: > > > > Unfortunately FEATURES=stricter stopped being really useful > > > > > > i c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New Developer: Christian Hoffmann (hoffie)

2007-08-19 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/19/07, Ulrich Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Christian Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Christian is joining us [...] > > This finally makes Christian the most common first name of Gentoo devs: heh, at work we have alec-team ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] SSL certificates in binary packages

2007-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/21/07, Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I use the gentoo framework to build binary packages. I noticed that most > packages creates the ssl certificate during src_install(). This makes > all binary packages contain the ssl certs which is a security threat. > > The net-nds/ope

Re: [gentoo-dev] checkrestart from debian-goodies

2007-08-24 Thread Alec Warner
On 8/24/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthias Langer skrev: > >> http://www.arcdraco.net/~dragon/checkrestart > >> (Needs lsb-release, portage-utils, lsof and python) > >> > > > > looks interesting indeed... whats also interesting: is there a reason > > for lsb-release (a sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Graphical User Interfaces Project

2007-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
what about A*? it's also a search algorithm you see. On 9/3/07, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 September 2007, Marius Mauch wrote: > > You should rename 'himerge' to YAPG (yet another portage GUI). > > god no, please never let any Y* acronym soil Gentoo > -mike > > -- [E

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] udev rules cleanup / merging rules files with other distros

2007-09-05 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/5/07, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > > So here we are: > > In udev git-gtree suse and redhat rules are already merged. > > But they use a different permission / group system than we have, they have > > less g

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-commits list lives!

2007-09-07 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/7/07, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Friday 07 September 2007, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 02:44:21PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > X-VCS-Repository: gentoo-x86 > X-VCS-Files: udev-115-r2.ebuild > X-VCS-Director

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-commits list lives!

2007-09-08 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/8/07, Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > After much toiling, Infra has finally got the commits list active. > > Kudos to you all! > > What we now need is the installation of some kind of peer review. For > example add to the recrui

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/erlang: ChangeLog erlang-11.2.5-r2.ebuild

2007-09-23 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/23/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07:34 Sun 23 Sep , Christian Faulhammer (opfer) wrote: > > opfer 07/09/23 07:34:43 > > > > Modified: ChangeLog erlang-11.2.5-r2.ebuild > > Log: > > add patch provided by Paul Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in bug19

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/bigloo: ChangeLog bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild

2007-09-25 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/24/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12:35 Mon 24 Sep , Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote: > > hkbst 07/09/24 12:35:11 > > > > Modified: ChangeLog > > Added:bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild > > Log: > > bump 3.0b-2, minor bugfix version > > (P

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla improvements

2007-09-26 Thread Alec Warner
Awesome, thanks for all your hard work. -Alec On 9/26/07, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I went and processed a bunch of pending Bugzilla bugs, and thought folk > might be interested in the changes. > > - "Bug Reporting Guide" is now linked from the front page as well as the > "C

Re: [gentoo-dev] Quoting patch for repoman

2007-09-30 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/30/07, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 30 September 2007, Zac Medico wrote: > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > On 04:52 Sat 29 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > >> does this work with multilines ? > > >> if [[ -e ${S}/asdfasdfasdf && \ > > >>-f ${WORKDIR}/moo ]] > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Quoting patch for repoman

2007-10-01 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/30/07, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/30/07, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 30 September 2007, Zac Medico wrote: > > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > > On 04:52 Sat 29 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-java/rjava: rjava-0.5.1.ebuild metadata.xml Manifest ChangeLog

2007-10-01 Thread Alec Warner
On 9/30/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04:42 Mon 01 Oct , Steve Arnold (nerdboy) wrote: > > Revision ChangesPath > > 1.1 dev-java/rjava/rjava-0.5.1.ebuild > > > > file : > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-java/rjava/rjava-0.5.1.eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/2/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 06:49 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > BSD is a second class citizen to GNU here. Gentoo started out as a project > > targetting a GNU userland under Linux and will continue for quite sometime > > (forever?) as the majority

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/2/07, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on > Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:28:30 +0100: > > > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 06:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> i am convinced by superior standards and by good things. forcing th

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to add a service to /etc/services?

2007-10-07 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/7/07, Ulrich Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've found the following interesting piece of code in src_install > of both app-emacs/lookup and net-misc/ndptd: > > if ! $(grep 2010/tcp /etc/services >/dev/null 2>&1) ; then > cp /etc/services ${T}/services >

Re: [gentoo-dev] new-style virtual/editor

2007-10-07 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/7/07, Robert Buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday, 5. October 2007, Olivier Crête wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-05-10 at 11:46 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > How many packages depend on virtual/editor? Should it be a virtual > > > at all? > > > > !rdep virtual/editor > > virtual/e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-fs/ncdu: ChangeLog ncdu-1.3.ebuild

2007-10-07 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/3/07, Josh Sled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wolfram Schlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-03 19:12]: > >> On 12:43 Wed 03 Oct , Wolfram Schlich wrote: > >> > And *please*, don't send such mails to this > >> > list *and* to my address in ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-08 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/8/07, Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 21:26 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > Fabian has summed it up nicely, thanks. i could care less what your > > > userland > > > is outside of the ebuild environment since it doesnt matter to ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-10 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/8/07, Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 06:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > > On 10/8/07, Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 21:26 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: > > > > Mike Frysinger wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] New projects (was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder...)

2007-10-11 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/11/07, Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last council decided: > > | Design phase for new projects: New projects need to post an RFC > | containing information about their goals, the plan on how to > | implement their goals and the necessary resources to -dev prior to > | crea

Re: [gentoo-dev] New projects

2007-10-11 Thread Alec Warner
, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/11/07, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alec Warner wrote: > > > On 10/11/07, Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Last council decided: > > >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New projects

2007-10-12 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/12/07, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner kirjoitti: > > Glep 54 now replaces (and depends on) glep 39. > > > > Like the commit message says, the spirit of the glep was approved long > > ago, if you have issues with wording please to be t

Re: [gentoo-dev] New projects

2007-10-12 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/11/07, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > > Glep 54 now replaces (and depends on) glep 39. > > > > Like the commit message says, the spirit of the glep was approved long > > ago, if you have issues with wording please to be t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/mythtv: ChangeLog mythtv-0.20.2_p14668.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14666.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14480-r1.ebuild

2007-10-15 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/15/07, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan Adamczewski wrote: > > Doug Goldstein wrote: > > > >> That's what this commits review list feels like. > >> > >> > > > > > > Nearly every suggestion (from Donnie and others) has been over some > > issue that relates directly to eithe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/sandbox: ChangeLog sandbox-1.2.18.1-r1.ebuild

2007-10-17 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/17/07, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 15:55 Wed 17 Oct , Daniel Drake (dsd) wrote: > >> 1.1 sys-apps/sandbox/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r1.ebuild > >> > >> file : > >> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/sandbox/sandb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sci-biology/seaview: ChangeLog seaview-20060213.ebuild seaview-20041220.ebuild seaview-20070919.ebuild

2007-10-21 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/21/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04:34 Sun 21 Oct , Jeffrey Gardner (je_fro) wrote: > > 1.3 sci-biology/seaview/seaview-20060213.ebuild > > > > file : > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sci-biology/seaview/seaview-20060213.ebuild?re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slapd calls nss_ldap before opening its ports

2007-10-22 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/22/07, Michael Hanselmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 02:12:29PM +0200, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > Therefore I suppose the slapd daemon tries to obtain passwd/shadow > > information for ldap via nss_ldap. > > Yes, it does. Therefore, use something like the foll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slapd calls nss_ldap before opening its ports

2007-10-22 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/22/07, Bertram Scharpf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, 22. Okt 2007, 13:44:19 +0100 schrieb Benjamin Smee: > > On Monday 22 October 2007 13:12:29 Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > > > > > @(#) $OpenLDAP: slapd 2.3.38 (Oct 18 2007 22:12:26) $ > > > [EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]:/var/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-25 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/25/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello List > > It's your favourite posix shell lover here, asking for your honest > opinions. > > array="1.2.3.4 netmask 5.6.7.8; > \* > 'host.name' netmask 1.2.3.4 > -I 'option; $FOO with spaces' > " > > array=("1.2.3.4 netmask 5.6.7.8;" > "\*"

Re: [gentoo-dev] New staff : Marion Agé (titefleur)

2007-10-27 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/27/07, Denis Dupeyron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's my unusual pleasure to introduce Marion Agé who will go among us > under the nickname of titefleur, which can be literally translated > into "lil' flower". Aint that charming ? > > Marion will be the new translator follow-up for French.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New staff : Marion Agé (titefleur)

2007-10-27 Thread Alec Warner
On 10/27/07, Peter Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 11:49 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > > On 10/27/07, Denis Dupeyron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's my unusual pleasure to introduce Marion Agé who will go among us > > > u

Fwd: [gentoo-dev] More general interface to use flags

2007-11-02 Thread Alec Warner
I hate gmail -- Forwarded message -- From: Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 2, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] More general interface to use flags To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org On 11/2/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: More general interface to use flags

2007-11-04 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/4/07, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > > the current interface to use flags, useq, usev, use_with, use_enable, as > > defined in /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh lacks generality. The common > > thing is testing a use flag and possibly echoing a string, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-firewall/ipset: ChangeLog metadata.xml ipset-2.3.0.20070828.ebuild

2007-11-07 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/7/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12:06 Wed 07 Nov , Peter Volkov wrote: > > On Mon, 05/11/2007 в 10:03 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > > BTW, is it possible to force portage to fetch sources if they do not > > exist in ${DISTDIR}? Also does there exist a better wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE flags documentation

2007-11-26 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/24/07, Jose Luis Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all: > > I've read on the planet the recently included support to document USE > flags in metadata. Seems like it was an idea from flameeyes and cardoe, > discussed on the planet [1][2] and performed by -infra (bug #199788). > > While pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE flags documentation

2007-11-26 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/26/07, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CCing council so that the other members can express their feeling about this; > basically the only people I actually care about getting the feeling about > this at all. > > On Monday 26 November 2007, you wrote: > > Seems like ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-27 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/27/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How the recent changes happened to allow USE flag descriptions in > metadata.xml (which I'm not taking any position on now) gave me an idea. > The Linux kernel requires that any needed documentation accompany all > changes requiring said doc

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/28/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19:10 Tue 27 Nov , Alec Warner wrote: > > No, because this is not a realistic requirement, it's an ideal case. > > People will just commit changes without documentation anyway. > > Here's my un

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Alec Warner
On 11/28/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16:43 Wed 28 Nov , Alec Warner wrote: > > On 11/28/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here's my understanding of what you said: Because people will break > > > rules

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
> Now that's something that sound reasonable. Why limit the period and > don't provide it forever? To comment slightly here: Forever and Unlimited are always just dirty lies. Don't make promises you can't keep. To be fair even some of Robin's comments are odd, mentioning 'permanent urls'. Sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-30 Thread Alec Warner
On 12/30/07, Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a very very rough draft/question about how we should move > forward with USE flag documentation and specification. The entire idea > of a single USE flag having different meanings will need to be revisted > later. I just want to get an

Re: [gentoo-dev] has_version etc parallelisability

2007-12-30 Thread Alec Warner
On 12/30/07, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends in parallel? Is > it legal for ebuilds to call has_version and friends after the ebuild > process has terminated? Discuss. If the pm implements read/write locking on the underlying dat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-08 Thread Alec Warner
On 1/8/08, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:38:07 -0800 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 02:17 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > Oh. Yeah. Because people with an attitude like yours think that the > > > correct way to fix a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2008-01-09 Thread Alec Warner
On 1/8/08, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:44:22 -0800 > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Uh... So where do the original problems come from? Are you saying > > > that packages mysteriously star

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