On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:07:44PM +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Friday, 30 September 2022 02:36:05 CEST William Hubbs wrote:
> > I don't know for certain about a vendor tarball, but I do know there
> > are instances where a vendor tarball wouldn&
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:49:02PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 7:53 AM Florian Schmaus wrote:
> >
> > On 30/09/2022 02.36, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 06:31:39PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > >>>>>
On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 07:21:13PM +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> On 01/10/2022 18.36, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> On Sat, 01 Oct 2022, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> >
> >> Bug #719201 was triggered by dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra-2000. It
> >> appears that the ebuild had more than 6000 entries i
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 08:50:53AM +0100, Petr Vaněk wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 10:05:57AM +0100, Petr Vaněk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have found improperly indented dosym call in src_install phase in
> > luajit ebuilds. Following patch fixes it.
>
> Ping
I'll look at this today.
Thanks,
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 02:28:22PM +0500, Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova wrote:
> On 2023-04-17 09:37, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> > The EGO_SUM alternatives
> > - do not have the same level of trust and therefore have a negative
> > impact on security (a dubious tarball someone put somewhere, especiall
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 08:30:58AM +0200, pascal.jaeger leimstift.de wrote:
>
> > Arthur Zamarin hat am 30.05.2023 18:35 CEST
> > geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > Currently the best solution *per package* is to speak with upstream, to
> > add a CI workflow which create a source tarball which includes
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 06:43:04PM +0500, Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova wrote:
> On 2023-04-25 16:09, Maciej Barć wrote:
> > You would also have to have correct permissions on cache dirs
> > (root:portage or portage:portage) this also means that the cache dir
> > will have to be set during build ex
I know I'm pretty late to this thread, but I'm going to respond to some
of the concerns and suggest another alternative.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 09:37:32AM +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> I want to continue the discussion to re-instate EGO_SUM, potentially
> leading to a democratic vote on whethe
On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 10:13:55AM +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote:
> On 1.6.2023 22.55, William Hubbs wrote:
> >>
> >> The EGO_SUM alternatives
> >> - do not have the same level of trust and therefore have a negative
> >> impact on security (a dubious ta
This is applied.
Thanks,
William
On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 01:22:57PM +0200, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> The only call site of _go-module_gomod_encode() was using $() in a loop
> over EGO_SUM. This caused bash to fork() for every loop iteration, which
> significantly affected the time it takes to "so
# William Hubbs (2023-07-25)
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Thanks,
William
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dev-lang/luajit is up for grabs. It has several open bugs and I don't
really use lua any longer.
Thanks,
William
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William
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I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable.
The team had been testing from the previous stable, 0.9.x series all the
way through 0.10.x. We found out recently that releng needed the new
openrc stable because of the cds/isos being broken.
There hadn't been bugs reported,
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable.
>
> The team had been testing from the previous stable, 0.9.x series all the
> way through 0.10.x. We found out recently that releng needed
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:58:00PM +, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 07 Dec 2012 16:41:27 William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 09:24:54AM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > I want to explain about the recent openrc's going directly to stable.
> > >
> >
I think another good reason for treecleaning a package is if upstream for
the package stops supporting their package and recommends that you use
a new package. In this situation, once the new package hits stable,
there is really not a reason to keep the old package around. Instead,
any necessary tr
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 06:24:30PM -0500, Jeff Horelick wrote:
> On 13 December 2012 17:57, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote:
> >>
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> >> On 12/13/2012 12:48 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:06:34PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 13/12/12 06:49 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > For example, glibc-2.9 and gcc-2.95. I think that if we are going
> > to keep things this old in the tr
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:57:16PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> I am sure that some people find it very handy to have old gcc ebuilds
> around. It might come in handy for testing.
Testhing what?
> It doesn't matter if they can't compile the latest kernel. If someone
> files a bug for that, it get
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:05:27PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 14/12/12 01:28 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43:41AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> >> Handling separate /usr support ==
> >
All,
what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs
upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that there
were choices I made that are not upstream choices. If there is something
I can undo in udev to make it easier for us I will do that; I'm just not
clear
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:10:22PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 12/15/2012 06:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs
> > upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that th
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:35:44PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 12/15/2012 10:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:10:22PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
> >> On 12/15/2012 06:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:31:59PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > Olav Vitters wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
> > >> As I said in an earlier email, Lennart Poettering claims that it does
> > >
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was
> > pushed through that separate /usr without an initramfs is a
> &g
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 01:51:27PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 12/18/2012 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thi
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 06:58:11AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:25 AM, George Shapovalov wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 December 2012 09:11:39 Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> > /var/cache/repositories/local<== the new location for a local overlay
> >>
> >> Also I wonder if loca
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:04:31PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Friday, December 21, 2012 09:38:36 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> > > On 21/12/12 03:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > >> An init* needs to be kept in sync with the rest of the sy
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 06:36:05PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Friday, December 21, 2012 10:21:02 AM William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:04:31PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 09:38:36 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > > O
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:48:23PM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 24/12/2012 20:08, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > i.e. saying "we should get rid of gen_usr_ldscript and use --libdir=/lib"
> > makes absolutely no sense. it's just begging for people to screw things up
> > constantly and waste d
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 07:55:38AM +, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> > Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the
> > council has not mandated that we support separate /usr without an
> >
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 22:01 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> >> Actually, since ulm pointed out in another thread that the
> >>
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:35:55PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 08:00:09AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
> >> wrot
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 01:49:50PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> >
> > As I and others have said on this list a thousdand times, moving
> > everything to /usr never had anything to do with systemd and udev. This
> &g
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 03:14:37PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Something I don't like about this whole debate is that it tends to
> come off as "I've never run an initramfs and darn it I want to keep it
> that way." Gentoo has always been a cutting-edge/innovative distro.
> We have prefix, harden
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 02:01:03PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation
> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> # $Header: $
>
> # @ECLASS: configuration-doc
> # @MAINTAINER:
> # Pacho Ramos
> # @AUTHOR:
> # Author: Pacho Ramos
> # @B
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:03:21PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El jue, 03-01-2013 a las 14:29 -0600, William Hubbs escribió:
> [...]
> > > case "${EAPI:-0}" in
> > > 0|1|2|3)
> > > die "Unsupported EAPI=${EAPI:-0} (too ol
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 11:34:59PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 10:26 Sat 22 Dec , Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > After seeing:
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440214
> >
> > Looking to a lot of its blockers shows that we are using "elog" messages
> > for informing peo
All,
as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree.
This new version implements a new feature called predictable network
interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for live systems,
because it
will require migration on the part of the user.
When you upgrade to this new vers
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:59:10PM -0800, Christopher Head wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:13:10 -0600
> William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
>
> This seems like a good thing for some systems. Will t
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:33:42PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote:
> > So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no
> > complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from
> > systemd, and this smells of a syste
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 02:11:43AM +, Steven J. Long wrote:
> Christopher Head wrote:
> > William Hubbs wrote:
> >
> > > There is a way for users to opt out if we default this to on, but I
> > > think the new naming scheme has advantages over the tradi
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 02:29:43PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> The run_in_build_dir() command simply runs given command
> in the directory stated as BUILD_DIR. This variable is used commonly
> by autotools-utils, cmake-utils and python-r1 eclasses, therefore I'm
> proposing adding the relevant fun
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:08:18PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:05:31 -0600
> William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 02:29:43PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > The run_in_build_dir() command simply runs given command
> > > in
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 06:04:01AM +, Steven J. Long wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 William Hubbs wrote:
> > Steven J. Long wrote:
> > > If you're certain that every user with a current simple setup, who
> > > uses the kernel default names, and has such a fir
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 01:59:14PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 14/01/13 01:06 PM, Oleksii Shevchuk wrote:
> > Hi list!
> >
> > After introducing eudev, is there any reason to do systemd/udev
> > split?
> >
>
> Ask in 6 months to a ye
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 01:25:01AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote:
> William Hubbs wrote:
> > I have a bug opened with the docs team and release engineering
> > to discuss whether we want the new names for new installs.
>
> IMO yes we do.
>
> What's that bug - or what i
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 07:44:39PM +0100, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Stuge wrote:
> > Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> > > It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine
> > > with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I
> > > _know_ tha
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:33:13AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 18/01/13 07:24 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Since for servers predictable names are useful and for desktop
> > (which usually have only one ethernet that never change) Is
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:07:42AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 18/01/13 09:54 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 08:33:13AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote:
> Mike Gilbert:
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans
> > wrote:
> >> Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >>> please review this news item, seems we need one after all
> >> Hello Samuli,
> >>
> >> /dev/root is no longer available
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Dne So 2. února 2013 12:44:30, Vaeth napsal(a):
> >
> > When I came to Gentoo many years ago, this was a very rare problem,
> > but the removal of packages has tremendously increased, and it is
> > not only me who is observing this p
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:23:06AM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> > On 06/02/13 09:53 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> >> On 6 February 2013 14:18, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 05:03:43PM +0100, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
> Now, imho, we have 2 choice:
>
> 1)Support them with an iso or at least a manual if we can't do an handbook
> 2)Lose the stable keyword and don't waste manpower anymore.
We also have another choice if there is so little interest
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:10:09AM -0800, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> > In terms of 'following Gentoo policy.' We encourage packages to be as
> > close to upstream as possible. I cannot fathom why when you basically
> > find a performance bug in mallo
All,
systemd, like udev, stores directory paths in a way that they can be
queried from pkg-config. However, the systemd.eclass currently does not
use this ability.
The following patch models the systemd eclass after the udev eclass and
leaves the current defaults in place if there is an issue wit
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 05:37:12PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > systemd, like udev, stores directory paths in a way that they can be
> > queried from pkg-config. However, the systemd.eclass curr
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:47:47PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:28:08 -0500
> William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 05:37:12PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM, William Hubbs
> > > wrote:
>
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 11:56:09AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> There was a slight mis-understanding between me and ulm.
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:14:37 +0200
> Michał Górny wrote:
>
> > a) patch files can be specified directly or through a directory
> >in which *all* files will be applied i
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 04:37:42PM -0400, Alex Xu wrote:
> On 07/04/13 04:13 PM, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > On 2013.04.07 20:36, William Hubbs wrote:
> > If you do not upgrade your systems to openrc-0.11.8 before it leaves
> > the tree, you may need to reinstall them.
> >
All,
here is the second draft. I am including updates from this thread as
well as a couple of my own.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
William
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All,
this eclass is an alternative to systemd.eclass, and maintains
full compatibility with it; however, it expands it so that it can query
pkgconfig for the directory paths. It returns the same default paths as
systemd.eclass if there is an error with pkgconfig.
I am sending this out for review
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 04:15:03PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:43 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > I am sending this out for review so we can commit it to the tree
> > when we commit our alternate systemd ebuild in a few days. This will be
> > set
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:27:24PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:43:14 -0500
> William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > this eclass is an alternative to systemd.eclass, and maintains
> > full compatibility with it; however, it expands it so that it can query
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 12:41:59AM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 13 April 2013 22:30, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:27:24PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:43:14 -0500
> >> William Hubbs wrote:
> >>
>
All,
per lu_zero's request yesterday, OpenRC now has an organization and a
repository on github [1] [2].
For now, we are still using gentoo's bugzilla for bugs, but this should
ease collaboration on the project.
If you want to be added to the team, please email me privately with your
github user
All,
it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out into
their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be developed
independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC 0.12, which I hope
to release soon.
This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* s
ts able to
run under systemd.
William
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out into
> > their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be developed
> > independ
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:58:21PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 24/04/13 12:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out
> > into
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:34:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:23:23 William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:58:21PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> > > On 24/04/13 12:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > > it has been
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:54 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like
> > IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, people will still be hit if they do
> >
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500
> William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts
> > will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package th
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
>
> > Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't
> > need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking
> > support by default. I'
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:32:44PM -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
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> On 04/24/2013 07:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 08:13:23PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:23:23 William Hubbs wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:58:21PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> > > &
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:14:57PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 26/04/13 02:12 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 07:27:06PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher
> > Nguyễn wrote:
> >> W
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 03:13:54PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El mié, 01-05-2013 a las 13:00 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
> [...]
> > >> The only remaining problem is about eselect-sysvinit, for this reason,
> > >> I am probably going to create a new separate pkg called
> > >> _sysvinit-next_,
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 11:14:28PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
> wrote:
> > On 5/1/13 3:04 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> >
> > As far as I read the bug, Mike (vapier) is doing the right thing.
> > Distros doing lots of custom changes can only
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:26:06PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote:
> - its a consistent approach that is bootloader agnostic
> - it doesn't require you to understand your bootloaders scripting system to
> add it to the init= line
> - its "no brains required, and hard to mess up"
Why should we do somet
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 03:39:25PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> >>
> >> If you manually write your own configuration for GRUB2, it is no more
> >> convoluted than for GRUB Legacy.
> >>
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 08:27:36AM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 3 May 2013 07:01, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
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> >
> >
> > If it's that simple, why on earth do we have all the eselect modules we
> > have!?
> >
> >
> Hm, upon reading that list and seeing what they do, it raises another
> argument i
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 11:03:41PM -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
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> On 05/03/2013 05:28 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:08 PM, René Neumann wrote:
> >> Am 03.05.2013 22:20, schrieb Zac Medico:
> >>> Is it worth chang
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:49:18PM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 8 May 2013 23:39, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> >> On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> >>> It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making systemd
> >>> m
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 12:21:53AM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 8 May 2013 23:49, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
> > wrote:
> >> Ben de Groot schrieb:
> >>> On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> It looks like there is some
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:07:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> It is quite likely that OpenRC will start supporting unit files soon.
> Then in many cases we will be able to strip down this to just one init
> format which would satisfy both init systems.
Do you want to fill me in? ;-) I haven't se
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:08:21PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
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> >
> > This is the kind of policies that kill user contributions. I am very
> > sad to witness this once again.
> >
>
> I have mixed feelings for this very reason. The co
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:21:06AM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> > > [GitHub] enforces some particular workflow
> >
> > You keep saying this. What do you mean?
>
> I'll clarify!
>
>
> > A lot of projects (including Linux) just use GitHub for hosting and
> > nothing els
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:16:01PM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
> We don't control upstreams, but we still have choices. At this point I
> only see Gnome and udev upstreams who are forcing their users to use
> systemd. (There may be other projects too that I'm not aware of.)
Udev doesn't force anyth
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:56:21PM +0200, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
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> On 15/05/13 17:10, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > Those that can't use systemd: - those not using a recent linux
> > kernel
> And let's not forget those who aren't using Linux at al
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 02:18:13PM -0400, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote
> > Are we realizing that in order to keep systemd out of our way, we're
> > currently writing and maintaining drop-in replacements for the
> > features that syst
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 04:08:17PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El mié, 15-05-2013 a las 15:41 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
> > Are we realizing that in order to keep systemd out of our way, we're
> > currently writing and maintaining drop-in replacements for the
> > features that systemd is alr
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 01:58:41AM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote:
> > William Hubbs wrote:
> > > waltdnes wrote:
> > >> Question... when Sun made OpenOffice depend on Java (also a Sun
> > >> product) did Gentoo developers run around suggesting that Java b
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:02:12PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:45:18PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote
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> > No one is arguing against that. All this thread is about is making
> > systemd a first-class citizen, like OpenRC/Sysvinit, so it will be as
>
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:55:24AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> Openrc is small, but the wrapper really needs to know which is which and
> worst case switch inittab.
Please explain why this wrapper would need to switch inittab. Inittab is
only used by sysvinit and has no uses in any other init sy
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:41:06AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:55:24AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > Openrc is small, but the wrapper really needs to know which is which and
> > worst case switch inittab.
>
> Please explain why this wrapper
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 06:55:45PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 11:48:30 -0500
> William Hubbs wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:41:06AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 11:55:24AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> >
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:07:37PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> For the others, how large is the benefit of having them switchable?
> At least some of them look like something that wouldn't hurt people if
> it was always-built.
The dev manual states that use flags are to control optional
dependenc
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > There are a couple of other possible approaches...
> >
> > 1) If the 2 systems can achieve peacefull co-existance (i.e. no
> > identically-named files with different contents) then simply have 2
> > boot entries in /etc/lilo.conf (or
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