[gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe

2006-09-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 23:11 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >> I'd have to agree with you on that. I understand the appeal of exciting press releases but there were over 75 GCC 4.1 bugs still open for problems in *~arch* when the decision was made to go stab

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development!

2006-09-08 Thread Ryan Hill
Elfyn McBratney wrote: I've been inspired by the local/global USE flag threads recently posted by Doug (Cardoe), and it got me to thinking... I've recently joined the pkgcore development effort, and was asked by Brian (ferringb) what I'd like to hack on/what my niggles with portage are. My perso

[gentoo-dev] Re: Paid support

2006-09-09 Thread Ryan Hill
Curtis Napier wrote: I know christel is consulting with an accountant about adpot-a-dev, Now there's a project we can get behind. QA might fall a bit though. --de. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Why you use Gentoo

2006-09-10 Thread Ryan Hill
So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put "community" or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. I use Gentoo because of its intelligent user c

[gentoo-dev] Re: default USE flags in profiles (oss)

2006-09-23 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > oss is dead, why bother going with it in default USE anymore ? alsa forever ! i think the standard argument is games. i've never needed it though. --de. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 52 - GLEP 23 revisited

2006-09-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Simon Stelling wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like you to share your comments on the attached GLEP with me. > > Thanks in advance! I think I agree with the others. Excellent idea though; thanks for giving this issue your attention. --de. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: The Seed Project - Try 2

2006-09-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Lance Albertson wrote: > From my point of view, it would have been nice to have at least been > asked what infra could do to host these tarballs down the road. That > way, we have a sound plan of doing a good release when they're ready. I > don't like the idea of them springing a release and then

[gentoo-dev] Re: New dev: dev-zero

2006-09-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi all, > > It is with great pleasure that I announce the devification of Tiziano > 'dev-zero' M�ller. He writes us: > > "I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. Born here and still living here :-) > I'm studying physics at the University of Zurich and working > in a small company

[gentoo-dev] Re: New dev: dev-zero

2006-09-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi all, > > It is with great pleasure that I announce the devification of Tiziano > 'dev-zero' M�ller. He writes us: > > "I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. Born here and still living here :-) > I'm studying physics at the University of Zurich and working > in a small company

[gentoo-dev] Re: New Developer: Jim Ramsay (lack)

2006-09-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you lack, our recent addition joining us to > take care of the rox-related ebuilds. > > He hails from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. When he's unplugged from his > computer, he tries to play some guitar and write songs (he even plays in tw

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Ryan Hill
Lionel Bouton wrote: > There are already good resources (http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix > was mentioned to me by robbat2) but they may not be advertised enough. Most of the info on that page is wrong. > I'd like to propose a paragraph to the GWN editor which presents some > gotchas and goo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Ryan Hill
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 03:48:53PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >> Lionel Bouton wrote: >>> There are already good resources (http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix >>> was mentioned to me by robbat2) but they may not be advertised enough. >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Ryan Hill
Lionel Bouton wrote: > I'll wait and see if other devs are aware of common CFLAGS gotchas > plaguing bugzilla. Flags such as -fforce-addr and -fweb that change the way registers are handled can often cause errors when compiling hand-optimised ASM on architectures with a very limited number of reg

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-10-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Duncan wrote: > Could you point me at some info on this one (-ftree-vectorize)? It came > up on the amd64 list a week or so ago, when someone asked what I thought > of it and why I didn't have it in my cflags (which I had just explained). > I said I didn't know enough about it to make a case eit

[gentoo-dev] Re: Recommended -march settings [was: Re: CFLAGS paragraph submission for the GWN]

2006-10-14 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 14 October 2006 04:49, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >>CFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" > here's a good reason why gentoo-wiki is not official ... this is wrong. the > duo cpu's are not based on the pentium4 which is what the prescott i

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: per-package default USE flags

2006-10-15 Thread Ryan Hill
Jakub Moc wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > >> The profiles change over time. Currently, when the profiles change, the >> only thing that has to be checked for conflicting USE behaviour is >> subprofiles. With IUSE defaults, the person making the change will also >> have to do a sanity check o

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Ryan Hill
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > So, are you proposing to encourage people to do commits for > the sake of commits? Make people do revbumps/keywording > just to get their commits in, without doing proper testing? > Or to hold on number of commits till commitfest? I would hope that people would b

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Ryan Hill (dirtyepic)

2006-10-22 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Ryan "dirtyepic" Hill. He is > joining us to help with the endless x86 testing effort, treecleaners, > and gcc-porting. You might remember him for the work he did for getting > gcc 4.1 marked stable. > > He hails from a town that most can'

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Christian Faulhammer (opfer)

2006-10-28 Thread Ryan Hill
Christian Heim wrote: > Its my pleasure to introduce to you Christian Faulhammer (also known as > opfer), our latest addition helping with xemacs and the x86 monkeys. Woo hoo! :D -- by design, by neglect [EMAIL PROTECTED]for a fact or just for

[gentoo-dev] Re: firefox-2.0

2006-10-29 Thread Ryan Hill
Michal Kurgan wrote: > Recently new firefox-2.0 was released. > I (and probably many other users) am interested when this new version would > be unmasked and stabilized. If there are any problems, what are they and what > to expect if i would force installation now? Is there any roadmap or timeline

[gentoo-dev] Re: Global USE flags (Was: mplayer global use flag)

2006-11-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Caleb Cushing wrote: > maybe it would be a lot of work. to even develop the tools. but it > would be nice if a global use flag could have a detailed option. this has been discussed a few times before. i think there's even a bug for it (don't remember the #). > example. > > euse -i mplayer [+

[gentoo-dev] Re: jpeg-mmx is dead

2006-11-05 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > upstream says it's dead and they dont want people using it ... considering > the > problems we've seen that sounds just peachy > > p.masked now > -mike oh thank god. -- by design, by neglect [EMAIL PROTECTED]for a fac

[gentoo-dev] Re: Ignoring/overwriting IUSE from an eclass

2006-11-05 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:21:46 +0100 Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | > And it doesn't work. > | > | Wanna bet? Of course you must put it in the x-modular.eclass, but I > | thought that's quite obvious as spyderous was talking about adding > | IUSE="" to tha

[gentoo-dev] Re: Ignoring/overwriting IUSE from an eclass

2006-11-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > I'm sorry, but is anyone else sick and disgusted with Ciaran talking to > people like this? This isn't called for and shouldn't be tolerated. After sleeping on it, I've decided my problem is personal, so i've just taken my own advice and set up

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Anonymous CVS and SVN now available

2006-11-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > KingTaco and I are pleased to announce that we've completed > setting up and testing the anonymous read-only CVS and SVN > services for Gentoo repositories, and that they are now > available for use. > Thanks go to: kengland, robbat2, kingtaco, ramereth, and > several oth

[gentoo-dev] Re: FEATURES to cut the excess in portage

2006-11-26 Thread Ryan Hill
Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can those flags be used in dependencies ? Not as far as I know. They're FEATURES, not flags, and are global. > Let's say, some package needs certain tools (ie. TeX) for building > its documentation, it would be stupid to build the whole docs > and so

[gentoo-dev] Re: spamc standalone package

2006-11-26 Thread Ryan Hill
Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is anyone else working on an standalone spamc package ? > I've got several machines where I don't want to have the whole > spamassassin installed - they're just calling an remote machine > to do this work. Sounds like a good question for the Networking

[gentoo-dev] Re: last rites for app-antivirus/vlnx

2006-12-09 Thread Ryan Hill
Timothy Redaelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can't fix rpath, application check its checksum Bug #? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: missing metadata.xml

2006-12-09 Thread Ryan Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Faulhammer) wrote: > Donnie Berkholz schrieb: > > Christian Faulhammer wrote: > >> Nice idea, but you should really add no-herd as this > >> is required if there is only a "maintainer". > > Really? isn't valid? I'd rather see that than adding a > > "fake" herd. > >

[gentoo-dev] adopt an orphan

2006-12-09 Thread Ryan Hill
I went through the list of packages currently in maintainer-needed status and matched them up with possible homes. If your team is interested in picking them up, feel free or just let me know and I'll take care of it for you. I don't know what to do with unstaffed herds (eg. app-benchmarks). I g

[gentoo-dev] Re: adopt an orphan

2006-12-09 Thread Ryan Hill
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > I don't know what to do with unstaffed herds (eg. app-benchmarks). > > I guess it'd be better to get the packages into the herd rather > > than just leave them in maintainer-needed. > > I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages

2006-12-16 Thread Ryan Hill
Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could you spell out that exception clause, please? > > It doesn't translate well into words, but we'll go with something > like "Unless you know exactly why the rule is there, understand > fully the implications of breaking it, and know why it's a >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] USE_EXPAND variable to choose ALSA PCM plugins

2006-12-16 Thread Ryan Hill
"Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure if anybody here knows, but alsa-plugins is not the only set > of plugins an user installs in its system, many others are installed > by alsa-lib itself, they are the basic plugins like dmix, dsnoop, > iec958, plug... the ones that m

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages

2006-12-16 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:46:30 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Can we skip the sekrit rulez crap and just spell it out? Really, > | how does this help anyone? > > It's quite simple. You don't

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] USE_EXPAND variable to choose ALSA PCM plugins

2006-12-16 Thread Ryan Hill
"Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 16 December 2006 22:18, Luca Barbato wrote: > > Not really I think as usual none == all ^^ > Yes, but I also plan to make all of them in the default set. I withdraw my objection then. ;d signature.asc Description: PGP signatu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages

2006-12-16 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's quite simple. You don't do it unless you are fully aware of the > > consequences. If you have to ask, you aren't fully aware of the > > consequences so

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages

2006-12-16 Thread Ryan Hill
Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hrm, I thought I wrote about this a while ago but I don't see it on > archives.g.o so lets try again. > > > If your package is 'not important' meaning it will never be in > > 'system' for any profile, you should not depend on anything in > > 'system',

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Robert Buchholz (rbu)

2006-12-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > So please give rbu the usual warm welcome. ...rbu roasting on an open fiiire... welcome rbu! =D -- by design, by neglect dirtyepic gentoo orgfor a fact or just for effect 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8

[gentoo-dev] Removal Announcements (or, "Bring out yer dead")

2006-12-30 Thread Ryan Hill
i'm just browsing the forums, and it seems there's still some complaints about not getting enough notice about packages being removed. i know, there's always going to be someone complaining, but i think there's a couple things we could do to improve the situation. one, the treecleaner team has de

[gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: >> It would be really nice, especially if the adm group could be used to be >> able >> to read the logs without using root login :) > Why not use the wheel group? adm is the standard unix group used to access system logs. there's a few

[gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase (was: Dependencies on system packages)

2007-01-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Steve Long wrote: > Robert Buchholz wrote: > I understand that it's hard to distinguish a pkg that hasn't been checked, > but might need the C-compiler, from a pkg that doesn't need the compiler > but just hasn't been checked. That's where I was going with the database > stuff. >> Since the tree

[gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase

2007-01-04 Thread Ryan Hill
Robert Buchholz wrote: > I don't want to sound negative and I like the idea a lot, but two things > are on my mind about this: > > It should also sync with changes in the tree, like package removals, > additions and package moves. For sure. > When you're talking about it on ebuild base: When a

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Raúl Porcel (armin76)

2007-01-07 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Raúl "armin76" Porcel. He is > joining us to put maintainer-wanted stuff to the tree and remove stuff > via treecleaners. The teams he targets now are net-p2p, mozilla and > treecleaners. Welcome, Raúl! --

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Imagine you have userpriv in FEATURES. If an ebuild has > RESTRICT=userpriv, it *WILL* disable userpriv, no matter what the user > does. Adding ACCEPT_RESTRICT allows the user to not list userpriv (or > -userpriv if userpriv is on by default) and the ebuild WILL NOT RUN

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Submit your ideas here, so we can discuss them. I will be choosing one > idea that we think we can accomplish to test out the idea of > Council-driven projects. How far was Curtis from finishing www-redesign? -- by design, by ne

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Vic Fryzel (shellsage)

2007-01-21 Thread Ryan Hill
Christian Heim wrote: > Please welcome Vic as a new fellow developer among us ! Yay! Welcome to Gentoo. -- by design, by neglect dirtyepic gentoo orgfor a fact or just for effect 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8)

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Ideas for projects...

2007-01-26 Thread Ryan Hill
sanchan wrote: > missing -fno-strict-aliasing wherever there are bad programming > practices and so on; IIUC, GCC's current -Wstrict-aliasing implementation has a number of flaws. According to a recent thread[i] on the GCC ml.. > The current implementation of -Wstrict-aliasing looks at a single

[gentoo-dev] Re: GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten wrote: > What I propose is to copy licenses/GPL-2 to license/GPL-2+ and adding the > following notes at the start of the two files: > > GPL-2: > Note: this license states that the software is licensed under GNU General > Public License version 2, and you might not be abl

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: >> It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for >> example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice. > > That's going too far; there's certainly no need to take over a package > just to get a fix in. If you want to take over a package,

[gentoo-dev] Re: new herd suggestion: religion

2007-02-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Steve Dibb wrote: > @devs, > > I'd like to propose a new herd: religion. The herd would take care of > the Bible and religious software along with any genealogy programs in > the tree, which there actually are a few of. Sword, gnomesword, sword > modules, bibletime, gramps would all fall under

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for February

2007-02-04 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! Reply-to and SPF docs? Isn't this the third month now? Also the infra doc on dev email still says not to use d.g.o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-18 23h59 UTC

2007-02-18 Thread Ryan Hill
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed > from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-18 23h59 UTC. Y'know, before these started getting posted, i had the distinct impression the tree was getting lighter. :P --

[gentoo-dev] Install locations for doc packages

2007-02-23 Thread Ryan Hill
Hey guys. There are a bunch of ebuilds (mostly in app-doc) that install stuff like HOWTOs, guides, reference manuals, books published under Creative Commons, etc. Currently the majority of these are installed into /usr/share/doc/${PF}. The problem with this is every time one of these packages ge

[gentoo-dev] Re: Install locations for doc packages

2007-02-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Zac Medico wrote: > The DOC_SYMLINKS_DIR variable is intended to solve that problem (new > in portage-2.1.2). It is documented in `man make.conf`. Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. -- by design, by neglect dirtyepic gentoo orgfor

[gentoo-dev] Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs)

2007-02-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Steve Long wrote: > Stephen P. Becker wrote: >> All of that said, how about we clear up all of the misinformation about >> how arch keywording really works, how deps get wrongly dropped, and then >> explain why mips has generally fallen behind. This isn't an excuse, >> but is merely a statement of

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] custom-cflags global USE

2007-02-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > And I'd be fond of having all the -ffast-math filtering ripped out of the > tree > as well. Please include -ftree-vectorize and -ftree-loop-linear along with that. I've yet to see a GCC release where they work correctly, including 4.2. --

[gentoo-dev] Re: What do you think about removing gtk-1.2 theme engines from tree?

2007-02-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Samuli Suominen wrote: > What do YOU think about removing these from tree? *I* think it's a great idea, but *I* may be heavily medicated at the moment. Seriously, IMHO the less we have depending on GTK+-1 the better. Others will disagree loudly. > Related picture, > http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/

[gentoo-dev] Re: What do you think about removing gtk-1.2 theme engines from tree?

2007-02-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Andrej Kacian wrote: > It makes sense slowly removing *applications* depending on gtk1. Themes should > go last, along with gtk1 itself. > > Gtk1 is already ugly enough, do you want it to be even more ugly? Point, set, and match. -- by design, by neglect

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, > staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare and > damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vapourware and > conceptually completely broken, c) that the forums were encouragi

[gentoo-dev] Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-10 Thread Ryan Hill
> The people who get all bent out of shape about a simple joke like that > are either homosexual themselves (not a bad thing) or homophobes > (definitely a bad thing). Not only is this completely off-topic for a technical ml, but one of the most shockingly stupid things one could say in an interna

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID -> NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Marius Mauch wrote: > "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Arguably no bug is invalid in the normal sense - if someone raises an >> issue, they have an issue, regardless what we think of it. To that >> end I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the phrase >> "NOCHANGE" in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: > I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. > Need to fix that up before masking it. It doesn't seem to build. FXColorSelector.cpp: In member function 'long int FX::FXColorSelector::onUpdAlphaText(FX::FXObject*, FX::FXSelector

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Well, if it's reached the "take drastic action" stage (which, let's > face it, it has at this point), why not go and fix the tree? It's a > better solution than breaking it, and anyone who moans now isn't going > to get any sympathy from anyone. I'm fixing it now. The br

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: >> I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. >> Need to fix that up before masking it. > I'll have a look. Okay, x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r3 was added to the tree which fixed the virtual/

[gentoo-dev] Re: /lib/rcscripts or /$(get_libdir)/rcscripts?

2007-03-30 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > perhaps we should write a new func ... `dorcaddon` ... That immediately looks like "dork addon" to me. --dirtypics -- where to now? if i had to guess dirtyepic gentoo orgi'm afraid to say antarctica's next 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB

[gentoo-dev] Re: *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Michael Cummings wrote: > So, fellow devs, what's new with development? For those interested, genlop has > migrated into gentoo as a project with the permission of upstream, which no > longer maintain it. Um...any new tools or projects people are working on? I just finished overhauling our wxWidge

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Tears of unfathomable sorrow

2007-04-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Alec Warner wrote: > Much to the joy of many I am now retiring from Gentoo. I've already done > most of the work (sorry to burden you kloeri I think just the tree-bits > are left). > > Many will wonder why; but this has been a while in coming. I don't get > along with many like I used to and in

[gentoo-dev] Re: base packages up for grabs

2007-04-08 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > working here is no longer fun * HUGZ * -- where to now? if i had to guess dirtyepic gentoo orgi'm afraid to say antarctica's next 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing l

[gentoo-dev] Re: [POLICY] Keywording/Stabilizing Bug Assignment Policy

2007-04-20 Thread Ryan Hill
Doug Goldstein wrote: > Once all but the last arch has keyworded said package, it is acceptable > and proper for a bug wrangler and/or maintainer/herd to re-assign the > bug to the last remaining arch and they remove that arch from CC. They > should add their herd/maintainer to the CC of the bug.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Deskzilla license for Gentoo Bugzilla for everyone

2007-04-21 Thread Ryan Hill
Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: >>> Please find attached a site license for Gentoo Linux project. Feel >>> free to share the license key with anyone interested or post it on the >>> web. The license allows any number of users, and it is locked to >>> Gentoo Linux Bugzilla URL. If in the future the U

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please fix your metadata.xml ASAP

2007-04-28 Thread Ryan Hill
Ned Ludd wrote: > With the loss of our recent bug-wrangler infra will probably be moving > to automated system of reassignment of bugs. In order for this to happen > you need to properly have your and tags listed in > the metadata.xml files. Things such as maintainer "postgresql" are not > val

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] dev-ruby/wxruby

2007-04-28 Thread Ryan Hill
# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #164148) # Replacement: wxruby2 (bug #107682) # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 dev-ruby/wxruby -- where to now? if i had to guess dirtyepic gentoo orgi'

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] app-pda/plucker

2007-04-28 Thread Ryan Hill
# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #121818) # Replacement: sunrise? http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/ # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 app-pda/plucker -- where to now? if i had to guess dir

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Last Rites] app-pda/plucker

2007-05-04 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) > # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #121818) > # Replacement: sunrise? http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/ > # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 > app-pda/plucker plucker will not be removed

[gentoo-dev] Re: tests

2007-05-05 Thread Ryan Hill
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > There was some discussion about forcing/not forcing tests in EAPI-1, but > there > was clearly no compromise. Imho, tests are very important and thus I want to > discuss them a little more, but in more sensible fashion. > > Firstly each test can be(not all

[gentoo-dev] Re: Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

2007-05-11 Thread Ryan Hill
Jim Ramsay wrote: > This libflashsupport-1.2 will have the following use flags: > > pulseaudio oss esd ssl gnutls > > Now, I was thinking that it would be much easier for users if > the netscape-flash ebuild automatically pulled this in, and was > wondering the best way to do this. I have 2 i

[gentoo-dev] Re: invalid in metadata.xml

2007-05-11 Thread Ryan Hill
Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Thilo Bangert wrote: >> All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to >> no-herd. > > I think that is not quite right, and since maintainer-needed is not a > maintainer but multiple people listening to the alias and users I would > like to suggest the following add

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml

2007-05-11 Thread Ryan Hill
Thilo Bangert wrote: > open questions: > > - what does it mean when the package is maintained by a herd and an >additional maintainer? how does one determine the order in which to >contact multiple maintainers? See "Planning for automatic assignment of bugs" (http://thread.gmane.org/gma

[gentoo-dev] Re: 'stricter' FEATURE and "poor programming practices" notice

2007-05-17 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Hans de Graaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My view is that if this is a QA notice then, if a package doesn't >> emerge because of it, it is a Gentoo QA bug and package maintainers >> should be responsible for fixing it. > Gentoo should not be applying patches simply to

[gentoo-dev] www-servers/boa wants YOU...

2007-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
...to maintain it. Boa is "a single-tasking HTTP server. That means that unlike traditional Web servers, it does not fork for each incoming connection, nor does it fork many copies of itself to handle multiple connections. It internally multiplexes all of the ongoing HTTP connections, and forks

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Last Rites] dev-ruby/wxruby

2007-06-08 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) > # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #164148) > # Replacement: wxruby2 (bug #107682) > # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 > dev-ruby/wxruby > Removed. -- dirtyepic salesman said

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
Kumba wrote: > Anyways, thoughts? Yes please. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
Thilo Bangert wrote: > "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> See the thread about automatic assignment for more about this. >> More importantly, once the automatic stuff goes into play, the >> existence of the herd tag will only matter on metadata that does not >> have any other maintain

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
Brian Harring wrote: > Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it. > > Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me): I originally agreed with you, but after giving it some thought I think it might help. > 1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Pony Colour Schemes [was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree]

2007-06-18 Thread Ryan Hill
Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to >> pink ponies, we can. > > Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? As *everybody* knows, purple ponies aren't pretty. Well, maybe a little bit. -- dirtyepic

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Ali Polatel (hawking)

2007-06-20 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my usual pleasure to introduce to you Ali "hawking" Polatel who > will be joining us to help with the netmon stuff. Ali hails us from > Turkey. He is currently a physics engineering stupid in the Istanbul > Technical University and a real wizard in chess. He is the Nation

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-dialup/multiimonc

2007-06-21 Thread Ryan Hill
net-dialup/multiimonc has a dependency on wxGTK-2.4 which is being removed from the tree. upstream (aka hansmi) and net-dialup have no interest in keeping it. masked for removal July 21, 2007. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suc

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for net-dialup/multiimonc

2007-06-21 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: > net-dialup/multiimonc has a dependency on wxGTK-2.4 which is being > removed from the tree. upstream (aka hansmi) and net-dialup have no > interest in keeping it. masked for removal July 21, 2007. BTW https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182748 --

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-fonts/twmoefonts

2007-06-23 Thread Ryan Hill
These fonts are severely busted. See bug #115110. Masked for removal in 30 days. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- [EMAIL PR

[gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Hey all, just a friendly request: If you do happen to mask a package for removal, please do not close any bugs against the package on the basis that it's being removed. There have been several cases where bugs get closed WONTFIX or INVALID, the removal is reversed for whatever reason, and the bu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: > Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: >> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Yes. When you click the Keywords link it takes you to a description >>> page: https://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi >> Sure, I'm aware of that. But where do I hear about the addition of new >> o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I've been operating on the premise that I am the maintainer of the > package in question and marking it as WONTFIX and making it depend on > the removal bug while at it. I don't see what's wrong in that.. > If the removal gets reverted, all the depending bugs should be seen

[gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Ryan Hill
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > Vieri Di Paola wrote: >> The two software packages depend at run-time. > > then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The package manager should do the > right thing. It doesn't. See freetype which requires >=fontconfig-2.3 at runtime which in turn requires freet

[gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Vlastimil Babka wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: >> It doesn't. See freetype which requires >=fontconfig-2.3 at runtime >> which in turn requires freetype at runtime. Bug #179736. > I think the problem is that fontconfig has freetype not just in RDEPEND > but also

[gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.6 / gcc-4.2 going into ~arch

2007-07-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > get your "waaait dont do it" votes in now, i plan on pushing: > glibc-2.6 ~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86 > gcc-4.2.0 ~amd64 ~x86 > in the next day or so > -mike Now that the futimens patch is in coreutils, i heartily endorse this event or product. BTW, the GCC 4.2 porting tra

[gentoo-dev] Re: Feedback req: Confirm/thank on bug fix or is that unwanted bug spam?

2007-07-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Duncan wrote: > When I open or CC on a bug that then gets fixed, I often feel like adding > a thanks to the bug. However, while it may be polite in other > circumstances, in this case it could be viewed as bug spam, so I've > hesitated. I don't think anyone can be opposed to a thank you. Ke

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Doty wrote: > All- > > We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only > devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who moderate > in > bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the > gentoo-project list will be crea

[gentoo-dev] Re: Call for more photos on planet.g.o

2007-07-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Rémi Cardona wrote: > People with funky pictures > - dirtyepic As a rule I don't put pictures of myself on publically accessible websites. That way no one knows that I'm really Wil Wheaton. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Ryan Hill
Daniel Ostrow wrote: > I as a developer find it very difficult to cut though what I consider > noise to find the bits that I consider important to being able to > continue being an effective developer on a list that I am *required* to > be subscribed to. We have considered the likes of a moderated

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread Ryan Hill
Christina Fullam wrote: > I think everyone is overlooking the part included previously: > "An additional method discussed was to have all non-dev emails on a > timeout, pick a number of hours, and then the email if not moderated > would be released. (non-dev sends his email, time period expires and

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