On pią, 2017-08-11 at 19:50 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> We have a pull request for the devmanual that will update the revision
> documentation; namely, when to create a new one:
>
> https://github.com/gentoo/devmanual.gentoo.org/pull/67
>
> The comments bring up an issue that I think can b
On pią, 2017-08-11 at 16:56 -0700, Gerogy Yakovlev wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was able to test this one a bit.
> The test subjects were:
> ~amd64/openrc/desktop system which I was going to wipe anyway.
> amd64/openrc latest snapshot, updated to ~amd64 with boostrtap.sh
>
> for the latter symlink migrat
On 12/08/2017 03:11, Brian Evans wrote:
> --changed-use (-U)
>Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags have
>changed since installation. This option also implies the
>--selective option. Unlike --newuse, the --changed-use option
>does not
On 08/12/2017 03:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> Please provide some examples of recent in-place USE changes that benefit
> from revbumps.
>
There is no single example. Things only get simpler if *all* USE changes
come with a new revision.
On 08/12/2017 04:39 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
>>
>> The option is the same as --newuse except it ignores functionality that
>> you suggest to remove. You could certainly deprecate one option or the
>> other if they became the same. But the core functionality of
>> system-wide USE changes (by p
On 08/12/2017 11:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> There is no single example. Things only get simpler if *all* USE changes
> come with a new revision.
IMO every significant(*) change should yield into a revision bump.
(*) == comments and echo arguments changes are not significantly, all
others
On 08/12/2017 12:22 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>
>> Q. But what if I maintain firefox, and I need to change IUSE?
>>
>> If the IUSE change isn't important, just make the new revision in a
>> branch and wait to commit it later when there are more changes
>> piled up. If it is important (lik
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 03:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>> Please provide some examples of recent in-place USE changes that benefit
>> from revbumps.
>>
>
> There is no single example. Things only get simpler if *all* USE changes
> come with a new
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Michael Palimaka
wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 09:50 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> Q. But what about the rebuilds?
>>
>> For most packages, the rebuilds simply don't matter. Unless you're
>> the maintainer of libreoffice, firefox, chromium, etc. -- just do the
>>
On 08/12/2017 08:16 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 12:22 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>>
>>> Q. But what if I maintain firefox, and I need to change IUSE?
>>>
>>> If the IUSE change isn't important, just make the new revision in a
>>> branch and wait to commit it later when there a
On 08/12/2017 08:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> On 08/12/2017 03:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>>>
>>> Please provide some examples of recent in-place USE changes that benefit
>>> from revbumps.
>>>
>>
>> There is no single example. Things onl
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 08/12/2017 08:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2017 03:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Please provide some examples of recent in-place USE changes that benefit
>>>
On 08/12/2017 06:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> My gut feeling is that the change you want is probably a good thing,
> but it will never happen if you can't provide a single example of
> something bad happening due to the lack of a revbump.
There's an unfixed security vulnerability with USE=foo,
While the PMS perhaps hasn't been an unequivocal success, it's still a
good effort with some success. I would be disappointed to see the
proposed change, and view it as a bad sign for Gentoo.
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On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Alexander Berntsen
wrote:
> While the PMS perhaps hasn't been an unequivocal success, it's still a
> good effort with some success. I would be disappointed to see the
> proposed change, and view it as a bad sign for Gentoo.
>
Also, how many Portages are there tha
On śro, 2017-08-02 at 17:58 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I've finally gotten around to writing a new tool for migrating amd64
> systems to SYMLINK_LIB=no layout [1]. I've put it in symlink-lib-
> migration [2] repository along with a README. Please review it and give
> it more te
The out-of-source.eclass is a simple multilib-minimal-style wrapper
to perform out of source builds of autotools (and other) packages. It is
mostly derived from the function served in the past by autotools-utils
since a number of developers found it useful. However, in order to avoid
the mistakes o
Michael Orlitzky posted on Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:14:18 -0400 as excerpted:
> On 08/12/2017 06:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> My gut feeling is that the change you want is probably a good thing,
>> but it will never happen if you can't provide a single example of
>> something bad happening due to
Michael Orlitzky posted on Sat, 12 Aug 2017 05:58:41 -0400 as excerpted:
> On 08/12/2017 04:39 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
>
>> There are use-cases for --changed-use / --newuse other than changed
>> IUSE.
>>
>> I find it useful to easily rebuild affected packages when changing USE
>> flags in m
On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 05:58 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
> I simply overlooked the global USE change in make.conf because IMO
> it's
> a nonsense operation.
This also happens routinely as new python and ruby versions are marked
stable, not via make.conf, but by removing their use.stable.mask
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