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On 09/06/16 12:20, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Perhaps you could explain how they actually prevent the issues I
> brought up?
You should probably ask the Exherbo developers, not me.
>
> Suppose you have 10 packages, and they each depend on zlib from a
>
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On 09/06/16 12:28, Igor Savlook wrote:
> Ok how coordinate? Example: I install packageA in exherbo from
> repository1 and packageA denend on packageB on repository2. Now
> packageB removed from repository2 and exherbo crash on install
> package or
On 10/06/16 08:33, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 09/06/16 12:28, Igor Savlook wrote:
> > Ok how coordinate? Example: I install packageA in exherbo from
> > repository1 and packageA denend on packageB on repository2. Now
> > packageB removed from repository2 and exherbo crash on install
> > package
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On 09/06/16 22:15, Michał Górny wrote:
> Didn't you just contradict yourself? First you tell that everyone
> should have their own public repo... then you tell that we should
> merge stuff from those repos. So are you targeting split-repo
> model,
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On 10/06/16 09:39, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> So forgive me for being blind .. but we were talking about going
> -away- from central, curated repositories, and now we've come full
> circle to the situation we have now with overlays, mostly
> controlled
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>> 4. According to Gettext documentation, "'@VARIANT' can denote any
>> kind of characteristics that is not already implied by the language
>> LL and the country CC." (So IIUC the BCP-47 variant "valencia"
>> would become "@valencia".)
On 09:53 Fri 10 Jun, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> > So forgive me for being blind .. but we were talking about going
> > -away- from central, curated repositories, and now we've come full
> > circle to the situation we have now with overlays, mostly
> > controlled in some way by gentoo .. so, do t
Dnia 10 czerwca 2016 11:29:41 CEST, Ulrich Mueller napisał(a):
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
>
>>> 4. According to Gettext documentation, "'@VARIANT' can denote any
>>> kind of characteristics that is not already implied by the language
>>> LL and the country CC."
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:45 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>
> On 09/06/16 22:15, Michał Górny wrote:
>> Didn't you just contradict yourself? First you tell that everyone
>> should have their own public repo... then you tell that we should
>> merge stuff from those repos. So are you targeting spli
Dnia 9 czerwca 2016 14:19:43 CEST, NP-Hardass
napisał(a):
>Greetings all,
>
>Sorry for the delay, had lots of recurrent hardware issues the last
>month or so.
>I will be adding this to the MATE project repo after I get your
>feedback, and then into Gentoo repo after I've had some users test out
>
Michał Górny schrieb:
On the other hand, there will be some cost:
- If BCP 47 tags containing a script or a variant should be used to
generate LINGUAS, they will require explicit mapping. (OTOH, such
mapping will also be needed if we stick to Gettext syntax but unify
variants like "sr@latin
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:18:44 +0200
Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> That would be a policy violation. Packages should pick a reasonable
> >> default if flags are conflicting, but not force users to
> >> micro-manage their flags.
>
> > Who did establis
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2016, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:18:44 +0200
> Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Michał Górny wrote:
>> > Who did establish that *idiotic* policy and why is he still a
>> > developer?
>>
>> Michał,
>> You may want to reconsider your
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 06:20:38 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies?
> > Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it
> > right now if we wanted to.
> >
> >> If so that creates a lot
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 14:25:08 +0200
Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> I would tend to agree with those who have written that coordinating
> work across repos is kind of a pain.
How do you know? What is your experience in the area of coordinating
work across repos in a Gentoo-style distribution?
--
Ciaran
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:19:43 -0400
NP-Hardass wrote:
> # Ensure availibility of xz-utils on old EAPIs
> if [[ "${EAPI:-0}" -lt "6" ]]; then
> DEPEND="app-arch/xz-utils"
> fi
One more thing. What is the rationale for this? I've tried hard, and I
can't find anything EAPI-conditional about dep
On 06/10/2016 08:00 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 06:20:38 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote:
Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies?
Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it
right now if we wanted to.
If
On 10/06/16 17:16, james wrote:
>
> And this effort needs a documentation collection to support users,
> post installation to their target (ideal stage-4?) collection of
> packages; many of which they maintain themselves even if a strong-user
> or dev
> helps them assimilate those final packages.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> How do you know? What is your experience in the area of coordinating
> work across repos in a Gentoo-style distribution?
I don't have much experience with ebuilds, but I have plenty of
experience with software components distributed across
On 10/06/16 03:53 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> ... Their repositories
> would likely be amalgamations of our curated and reviewed
> repositories ...
Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? When I read it, it
sounds like you're saying people will copy ebuilds/packages from the
core/review
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 04:20:06PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> (2) any user can edit wiki pages not governed by Projects. Even Project
> pages I'm sure could be updated by means of patches submitted to the
> appropriate team, with some basic follow-up to ensure action.
Only users with a wiki acc
On 06/10/2016 10:20 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
On 10/06/16 17:16, james wrote:
And this effort needs a documentation collection to support users,
post installation to their target (ideal stage-4?) collection of
packages; many of which they maintain themselves even if a strong-user
or dev
helps th
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:16 PM, james wrote:
> On 06/10/2016 08:00 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>
>>
>> The Exherbo model is not "packages are all over the place and there is
>> no coordination whatsoever". The model is "packages that lots of people
>> use are in a small number of core repositori
On 06/10/2016 06:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 9 czerwca 2016 14:19:43 CEST, NP-Hardass
> napisał(a):
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> Sorry for the delay, had lots of recurrent hardware issues the last
>> month or so.
>> I will be adding this to the MATE project repo after I get your
>> feedback, and
On 06/09/2016 11:54 PM, Jason Zaman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:19:43AM -0400, NP-Hardass wrote:
>> # Old EAPIs are banned.
>> case "${EAPI:-0}" in
>> 5|6) ;;
>> *) die "EAPI=${EAPI} is not supported" ;;
>> esac
>
> How reasonable would it be to ban EAPI5 as well? This is a new e
On 06/10/2016 09:33 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:19:43 -0400
> NP-Hardass wrote:
>
>> # Ensure availibility of xz-utils on old EAPIs
>> if [[ "${EAPI:-0}" -lt "6" ]]; then
>> DEPEND="app-arch/xz-utils"
>> fi
>
> One more thing. What is the rationale for this? I've tried h
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:52:40 -0400
NP-Hardass wrote:
> On 06/10/2016 06:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Dnia 9 czerwca 2016 14:19:43 CEST, NP-Hardass
> > napisał(a):
> >>DEPEND="app-arch/xz-utils"
> >> fi
> >>
> >> # @ECLASS-VARIABLE: MATE_TARBALL_SUFFIX
> >> # @INTERNAL
> >> # @DESCRIPTIO
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:52:46 -0400
NP-Hardass wrote:
> On 06/10/2016 09:33 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 08:19:43 -0400
> > NP-Hardass wrote:
> >
> >> # Ensure availibility of xz-utils on old EAPIs
> >> if [[ "${EAPI:-0}" -lt "6" ]]; then
> >>DEPEND="app-arch/xz-utils"
>
Hello,
Considering the strength of response from a Council member, I would
like to officially apologize for providing the agenda items and I would
like to withdraw them all appropriately. Thank you for your time, and I
wish you re-election.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 16:06:25 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, james wrote:
> The grandiose-ness you propose should only come upon graduating from proxy
> school, imho.
> user-->strong-users-->proxy-->dev pathway.
Pedantic, bureaucratic, procedure-oriented, monolithic, restrictive.
Too conservative.
What matters is the cont
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> It would be wise of us to create a novel way of involving users from
> the ashes of Sunrise.
>
> Here is my suggestion: It would be fruitful to encourage every single
> Gentoo user to have their own repository. And this repository should
I think the demise or replacement of the sunrise project should be put on
the agenda possibly. This is not anything official, just a hopefully
helpful suggestion.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Considering the strength of response from a Council member, I woul
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