Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: extending pkgmove (slotmove) actions to apply transitionally to ebuilds

2015-04-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 4 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 21:36:37 > Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): >> But in the worst case, your "hack" can cause a broken dependency >> graph. On the one hand, above mentioned >=app-misc/foo-1:0 matches >> all versions affected by the slotmove, so it

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread hasufell
On 04/05/2015 06:44 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:31:53PM +0200, hasufell wrote: > >> Not anymore. We will go for "libressl" USE flag for the same reason >> there is a "libav" USE flag now (working subslots etc). > > Um, ok. That still only allows one or the other to be i

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-java, dev-java/sun-j2me-bin

2015-04-05 Thread James Le Cuirot
# James Le Cuirot (05 Apr 2015) # A 32-on-64 Java VM is no longer considered necessary and a multilib # icedtea-bin would be preferred anyway. sun-j2me-bin depends on this # but it has been superseded by Oracle's JME and I doubt we'll ever # need that either. Removal in 30 days. app-emulation/emul

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > > They're pretty much decided on allowing both openssl and libressl to be > installed concurrently and for a given application to use one or the > other. The specific method for that packaging system is what they call a > prefix; basically i

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread hasufell
On 04/05/2015 01:17 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > If you're going to fork a library, and don't intend to keep the > packages API-compatible, then change the filenames. What is so hard > about this? LIbressl was even an outside fork, so it didn't come with > any of the baggage of "we're the real libs

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 5 April 2015 at 05:44, Paul B. Henson wrote: > I guess I'll just let this simmer for now and see how things develop. My > preference (I think, at least at the moment) would be for both > implementations to be able to coexist, like openssl and gnutls. It looks > like that's the way it's heading

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > Since as you point out the two packages are vastly API compatible, it makes > them ABI incompatible and conflicting. ++ If they really want to improve the security of function calls that they consider inherently secure, they should ju

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item for net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package migration

2015-04-05 Thread Ian Delaney
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 04:12:17 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Thomas D. posted on Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:09:36 +0200 as excerpted: > > > Title: New net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package > > > But I'm not wedded to either idea; they're just what I came up with > off the top of

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-05 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 08:49:51PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 13:47:47 > Alex Brandt napisał(a): > > > On Saturday, April 04, 2015 14:41:37 Philip Webb wrote: > > > I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. > > > Doing my weekly system update, > > > it strikes me

[gentoo-dev] Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-05 Thread James Le Cuirot
Hello all, Firstly, I would like to take this opportunity to remind all devs touching ebuilds with Java .jar dependencies about the importance of restricting these dependencies to specific SLOTs. There is no cross-platform or even platform-specific location for Java .jar files so each distro tend

Re: [gentoo-dev] Importance of SLOTs on Java dependencies

2015-04-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > My preferred solution would be > create a revbump that solely amends (R)DEPEND, leaving the KEYWORDS > exactly as they are. Sounds good to me (as long as repoman agrees :). - -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] New website: Where the .... is the ....ing documentation link?

2015-04-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > TL;DR: (1) Please consider either making Documentation a top-level-menu > link (preferable), or at least change Support to Support and > Documentation. (2) On the documentation lander page, add a "one big > list" link to a br

[gentoo-dev] RFC: making repoman complain about USE dependencies that lock packages at old version

2015-04-05 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, This is quite a Portage patch topic but since devs are known to be unhappy about any change, I would like to start a bikeshed first. The idea is to make repoman/pcheck complain if the newest ebuild matched by version+slot restriction of dependency atom can't satisfy the USE dependency, or in

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making repoman complain about USE dependencies that lock packages at old version

2015-04-05 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:50:10 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > What are your thoughts? if the version+slot restriction on foo in bar-1.ebuild contains foo packages that don't have bar useflag then it's an error in bar-1.ebuild (I think pms is pretty clear about this) Alexis.

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: making repoman complain about USE dependencies that lock packages at old version

2015-04-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > This is quite a Portage patch topic but since devs are known to be > unhappy about any change, I would like to start a bikeshed first. > The idea is to make repoman/pcheck complain if the newest ebuild > matched by version+slot restriction of depend

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making repoman complain about USE dependencies that lock packages at old version

2015-04-05 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > What are your thoughts? Sounds useful to me! Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: making repoman complain about USE dependencies that lock packages at old version

2015-04-05 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-04-05, o godz. 19:32:01 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Sun, 5 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > > > This is quite a Portage patch topic but since devs are known to be > > unhappy about any change, I would like to start a bikeshed first. > > > The idea is to make repoman/pcheck co

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread hasufell
On 04/05/2015 03:25 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò > wrote: >> >> Since as you point out the two packages are vastly API compatible, it makes >> them ABI incompatible and conflicting. > > ++ > > If they really want to improve the security of function

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:35 PM, hasufell wrote: > > You are ranting at the wrong place. If you want to make a difference, > take this to the openbsd mailing lists. > It seems unlikely that this would make much of a difference. I think that allowing this package to create another ffmpeg vs libav

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 5 April 2015 at 19:59, Rich Freeman wrote: > It seems unlikely that this would make much of a difference. I think > that allowing this package to create another ffmpeg vs libav mess is a > mistake. To be honest, the upstream developers should be fairly in the known regarding my opinion expres

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-05 Thread hasufell
On 04/05/2015 08:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:35 PM, hasufell wrote: >> >> You are ranting at the wrong place. If you want to make a difference, >> take this to the openbsd mailing lists. >> > > It seems unlikely that this would make much of a difference. It doesn't make

[gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 81 bugs

2015-04-05 Thread Alex Alexander
Our bug queue has 81 bugs! If you have some spare time, please help assign/sort a few bugs. To view the bug queue, click here: http://bit.ly/m8PQS5 Thanks!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: Apache AddHandler news item

2015-04-05 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Published a slightly improved version now: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gentoo-news.git/tree/2015/2015-04-06-apache-addhandler-addtype If there's anything wrong with it, please mail me directly (or put me in CC) so there is zero chance of slipping through. Thanks! Best, Sebastian

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-04-05 23:59 UTC

2015-04-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-04-05 23:59 UTC. Removals: media-plugins/vdr-pcd 2015-03-30 13:33:19 hd_brummy app-admin/eselect-audicle 2015-03-31 20

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-fs/evms

2015-04-05 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
# Maciej Mrozowski (06 Apr 2015) # Does not link against latest ncurses and no interest to fix it. # Superseded by LVM2 and all clusters should be migrated by now. # Removal in 30 days. sys-fs/evms I kept it in tree for a while longer for volumes migration purpose, but all good things must come

[gentoo-dev] Re: New website: Where the .... is the ....ing documentation link?

2015-04-05 Thread Duncan
Daniel Campbell posted on Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:58:40 -0700 as excerpted: > Aside from the Devmanual, most of Gentoo's docs are on the wiki, so you > could make a bookmark and setup a search shortcut for it. Just bookmark > the following address in Firefox: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?sea

[gentoo-dev] Re: Review: Apache AddHandler news item

2015-04-05 Thread Duncan
Sebastian Pipping posted on Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:29:19 +0200 as excerpted: > Published a slightly improved version now: > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gentoo-news.git/tree/2015/2015-04-06- apache-addhandler-addtype > > If there's anything wrong with it, please mail me directly (or put me in >

[gentoo-dev] Re: New website: Where the .... is the ....ing documentation link?

2015-04-05 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner posted on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 09:33:24 -0700 as excerpted: > No need to shout. Apology to you and others. And thanks. While I am of course familiar with CAPS=shout, I always considered it entire phrases or whole sentences in caps, not single words, which was simply emphasis. But it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC News item: FFmpeg default

2015-04-05 Thread Ben de Groot
On 30 March 2015 at 00:23, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-03-30, o godz. 00:07:16 > > Include example code. > Updated version: Title: FFmpeg default Author: Ben de Groot Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-04-07 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: media-video/ffmpeg Displ