Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:54:37 -0800 Brian Dolbec wrote: > > On 02.02.2015 22:58, Brian Dolbec wrote: > > > > > > sys-apps/portage-2.2.16 is ready for release and is just waiting > > > for the news announcement about the new plug-in sync system being

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2015, Brian Dolbec wrote: > New for git sync-type: > sync-depth = n where n = {0,1,2,3,...} (optional, default = 1) What do these values mean? You should either explain them, or don't mention them at all. Especially, it is not obvious what the value 0 signifies (g

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2015-02-03 Thread Bernard Cafarelli
# Bernard Cafarelli (03 Feb 2015) # Masked for removal in 30 days # Requires GTK+2 audacious (<=3.2) with audclient (<=3.4) # Bugs #411077 and #538464 x11-plugins/wmauda -- Bernard Cafarelli (Voyageur) Gentoo developer (NX, GNUstep, net-misc, llvm/clang, ...)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-02-02, o godz. 15:06:40 Michał Górny napisał(a): > Hi, everyone. > > Just after the news item got published, user Wes mailed me with > a suggestion. While I think someone mentioned it earlier > in the bikesheds over ffmpeg, I have completely forgotten about it > and now I'd like to rec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:54:37 -0800 Brian Dolbec wrote: > Attached is an updated news item. [...] > Changes: /etc/portage/repos.conf/* > New for all repository types (needed): > auto-sync = yes/no, true/false # default if absent: no/false 1. Why autosync is disabled by default? This b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:37:49 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:54:37 -0800 Brian Dolbec wrote: > > Attached is an updated news item. > [...] > > > Changes: /etc/portage/repos.conf/* > > New for all repository types (needed): > > auto-sync = yes/no, true/false # def

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-02-03, o godz. 01:22:27 Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> napisał(a): > > 2. There is some more work to get ebuilds correct (REQUIRED_USE). > > However, this is a minor issue compared to the potential mistakes in > > interpretation of USE='ffmpeg' and USE='libav'. > > ffmpeg-chooser.eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/02/15 11:11 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-02-03, o godz. 01:22:27 Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> > napisał(a): > >>> 2. There is some more work to get ebuilds correct >>> (REQUIRED_USE). However, this is a minor issue compared to the >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:37:49 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:54:37 -0800 Brian Dolbec wrote: > > Attached is an updated news item. > [...] > > > Changes: /etc/portage/repos.conf/* > > New for all repository types (needed): > > auto-sync = yes/no, true/false # d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:01:21 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:37:49 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > 4. I don't fully understand how new plugin system is supposed to > interact with layman. > > I far as I can see, the global goal is to replace layman by new > sync system: i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
If you want ffmpeg-ish features, at all, USE=ffmpeg. If you'd like to use the libav implementation, USE=libav. If you'd prefer to use the original ffmpeg implementation, USE=-libav. This is simple. Why can't we just stick with this?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Diamond
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:36:54 -0800 Brian Dolbec wrote: > > 1. Why autosync is disabled by default? This broke current > > default for emerge --sync. And if users added overlays, they > > most definitely want them to by synced by default as well. > > So I propose to set auto-sync=yes by default.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-02-03, o godz. 18:50:43 "Jason A. Donenfeld" napisał(a): > If you want ffmpeg-ish features, at all, USE=ffmpeg. > > If you'd like to use the libav implementation, USE=libav. If you'd prefer > to use the original ffmpeg implementation, USE=-libav. > > > This is simple. Why can't we ju

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > > You can't fix crap code to both keep the old crap handling while still > giving you new decent handling for the same config. > I think that makes sense, and certainly many upstreams have made changes this large. However, it does make sense

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:52:27 +0300 Diamond wrote: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:36:54 -0800 > Brian Dolbec wrote: > > > > 1. Why autosync is disabled by default? This broke current > > > default for emerge --sync. And if users added overlays, they > > > most definitely want them to by synced by defaul

Re: [gentoo-dev] toolchain.eclass: need to revert fixincludes commit

2015-02-03 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 02/02/15 19:06, viv...@gmail.com wrote: Il 02/02/2015 23:30, Pacho Ramos ha scritto: El sáb, 31-01-2015 a las 16:48 -0500, Anthony G. Basile escribió: Hi everyone, We need to revert the following change to toolchain.eclass: http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/eclass/too

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage news announcement review

2015-02-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:25:39 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Brian Dolbec > wrote: > > > > You can't fix crap code to both keep the old crap handling while > > still giving you new decent handling for the same config. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 02/03/2015 02:04 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-02-02, o godz. 15:06:40 Michał Górny > napisał(a): > >> Hi, everyone. >> >> Just after the news item got published, user Wes mailed me with a >> suggestion. While I think someone mentioned it

[gentoo-dev] Re: Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Markos Chandras wrote: > we bloat the make.conf file with new variables every now and then Although it often makes sense to set USE_EXPAND-variables in make.conf, it is not *necessary* to do it in this way and in this file: It can also happen in USE or in /etc/portage/package.use In fact, this i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quick RFC: USE=libav vs FFMPEG_IMPL=libav|ffmpeg

2015-02-03 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/03/2015 04:18 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Markos Chandras wrote: >> we bloat the make.conf file with new variables every now and then > > Although it often makes sense to set USE_EXPAND-variables > in make.conf, it is not *necessary* to do it in this way > and in this file: > It can also happ